new Computer for FFXIV

So I am almost set on a new computer that i am buying for FFXIV since my last computer just blew up on me ; ; and just wondering on what everyone things about which CPU I should get cause i keep going between the

Intel i7 4770k and the AMD FX 9590. I first thought u know, no brianer AMD as it is a octo core and can clock up to 5.1 Ghz, but after doing a little bit of research (which is kinda hard for me cause im stuck using my moms cell phone since i dont have a computer anymroe and only have very limited access to it) that the quad intel might be a better option. What do you all think?

Just incase you need to know some of the my other specs that I am getting with it i am getting

16 gigs of RAM
850 watt psu
GTX 780


any other input on this would be appreciated if u can find something that will give me same performance for less money, i am going to wait until cyber monday to buy to kind of hope to get a deal.

There is a new NVIDIA GeForce, the 780 Ti. I'm actually waiting until next year to get a new PC and I'm waiting for the release of the 800 series cards, too. But yeah, I do think those are good specs you have so far! This game doesn't seem to push a PC that hard unless you don't have the proper CPU; 1.0 of FFXIV was...a pain in the butt!

AMD making octacore CPUs to battle Intel's quadcore offerings - and still just playing catch-up. As far as that's concerned, go with Intel. Also, 850W might be a bit of an overkill, the 4770K has a TDP of 84W, minimum recommended for the 780 is 600W - on NVIDIA's site anyway, if OC'd or some such, the manufacturer might recommend higher, but for comparison's sake, I've an OC'd 760 (base is 500W) and a Q9550 (95W) - perfectly fine with a 650W PSU here. Again, if you wanna do serious overclocking on your own or have unusually many other components, might be needed, but if you're just gonna run your system as it is, 750W should be enough and you save a couple bucks there too.

Intel > Amd for cpu
16gb of ram isn't necessary, 8gb is fine.
Nvidia is overpriced the amd r9 290X is better and cheaper.

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

i7 4770 k is on sale atm for the black friday thing if you're in usa, $289...the gtx 780 would be great if you are playing at 5760x1080 res or something similar, a gtx 760 could run ffxiv fine, even a gtx 670 which is on sale will get you 60 fps..

since you mention a deal then depending on what you want to use it for, i5 processor will be cheaper than a i7, give same performance in game since ffxiv wont utilize HT of the i7. Also as i mentioned a gtx 760 would be plenty to play on max at 1920x1080. If you decide on the cheaper gpu get a 600w psu. Id recommend Corsair (bronze rating at least). If you get a intel cpu, try getting the hyper 212 evo cooler for it, stock cooler sucks btw.

My pc specs as of now, i5 3570k @ 4.3ghz,16gb ddr3 memory //i use ram disks. i need them >_>. yes the ssd isnt fast enough//, 120gb ssd cheap edit: oh and a asrock z77 extreme 4 mobo
hyper 212evo cooler, corsair HX850w psu for future sli/ gtx 780/ 3x dell U2412M E-Ips monitors(5760x1200)...
60+ fps in dungeons, fps varies depending where im at in town. 40-60 fps whle streaming at 720p, 30-40 fps recording fullsize. //on single display fps was 100+ easy and 60+ recording/streaming even during massive fates or something//

//A note, if you intend to do video editing, recording, streaming and such get the i7 or amd 8 core(i7 ofc).//

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Originally Posted by Norack

...and just wondering on what everyone things about which CPU I should get cause i keep going between the Intel i7 4770k and the AMD FX 9590.

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Unless you need it for productivity, go with the i5 4670k. The 4770k will offer you nothing additional in gaming. Intel chips tend to be better for single-threaded tasks like gaming, and if you're going with a $500 video card, you'll want a high-performing processor. Also, AMD isn't even releasing a Steamroller-based FX chip next year, so there's nothing to wait for -- Haswell, unimpressive though it may be, will dominate all next year.

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Originally Posted by Norack

Just incase you need to know some of the my other specs that I am getting with it i am getting

16 gigs of RAM
850 watt psu
GTX 780

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Don't even give the 780 a look right now. Go with AMD's R9 290. It delivers better performance for cheaper. Assuming you're getting a quality PSU, you don't need nearly 850W, either. Your rig will run on half that as a minimum -- a 650W is plenty of wiggle room. Most of your rig is also horrible overkill for ARR as well. No game now or in the near future will use 16GB of RAM, and your video card is two tiers past maxing ARR at 1080p.

//EDIT: Note that I said R9 290, not 290X. The 290X isn't a bad choice, but the 290 delivers performance nearly as good for $150 cheaper. For $400, the 290 wipes the floor with comparably-priced cards. All of the 290s are reference cards right now, though, so if you can afford to wait a few, you'll get better cooling solutions on them.

thx for all your help guys i think i found out what i will buy, although i found out that tomorrow if i get my order placed in time i can get this for only $1200 what do you all think?

AMD 8-core FX-9590 CPU
8GB DDR3-1866 Memory
AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB
1TB HDD
12X LG Blu-ray Reader
Windows 8.1
FREE WIFI + Bluetooth
FREE Gaming Headset

or should i stick with what i was thinking originally plus some of your guys's tweaks?

Perfect setup, but seriously, go for intel as cpu :) This AMD generation is a fail, you would regret it.

recommend intel as well. amd cpus are fail this gen

I would not use a RADEON card, many of the major computer sites have dropped ATI/AMD because of poor warranty and support. And if you go NVIDIA they work best with an Intel chip. I would go with the NVIDIA 760 + I5 4670k if you can afford go for like a samsung evo 250gb ssd + what ever storage is needed

Unless you're ready to spend for a top end AMD board and a top end aftermarket cpu cooler or liquid cooling solution, get the intel, I use AMD personally but FX's pull a lot of power when they're clocked high, enough to fry VRM's on cheaper boards. If you really want to go AMD though, get an 8350 and with what you saved get a corsair h100i and a good mobo, would be a solid rig and other than a few situiations in gaming or anything else really you won't see much of a difference between them and intel.

People like to over exaggerate how bad the AMD's are, you could call it a bandwagon effect.

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Originally Posted by etherstorm

I would not use a RADEON card, many of the major computer sites have dropped ATI/AMD because of poor warranty and support. And if you go NVIDIA they work best with an Intel chip. I would go with the NVIDIA 760 + I5 4670k if you can afford go for like a samsung evo 250gb ssd + what ever storage is needed

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Going to call bs on this one lol, I'd point and one thing, but its more than that its your whole post.

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Originally Posted by Norack

thx for all your help guys i think i found out what i will buy, although i found out that tomorrow if i get my order placed in time i can get this for only $1200 what do you all think?

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9590 is basically just an overclocked 8350, and sucks down enough juice to prove it (holy 220W TDP, Batman!). It's not a bad chip, but it's hardly exciting.

7990 is two 7970 on one PCB, meaning it requires Crossfire support to function properly. That will work in ARR, but not in all games. Where it does work, the 7990 will outperform any single-GPU solution (including the 780Ti, the best you can buy), but Crossfire support can be occasionally dodgy -- if it's not supported, you're effectively running one 7970.

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Originally Posted by etherstorm

I would not use a RADEON card, many of the major computer sites have dropped ATI/AMD because of poor warranty and support. And if you go NVIDIA they work best with an Intel chip. I would go with the NVIDIA 760 + I5 4670k if you can afford go for like a samsung evo 250gb ssd + what ever storage is needed

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those days are long past. ati cards are really good now since amd took over. they're cards actually get higher scores compared to nvidia's similar priced offerings. at least at the low and mid high end which most people are at.

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Originally Posted by etherstorm

I would not use a RADEON card, many of the major computer sites have dropped ATI/AMD because of poor warranty and support. And if you go NVIDIA they work best with an Intel chip. I would go with the NVIDIA 760 + I5 4670k if you can afford go for like a samsung evo 250gb ssd + what ever storage is needed

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Pretty sure you don't know anything about computers if you're really saying Nvidia works better with Intel. What gpu you pick will work equally well with the cpu of your choice.

mmm i have to agree amd makes good cards now. but seeing as ive always had nvidia ive kept up with it and went with a 780 for a single gpu multi monitor performance, if you're on a budget the amd cards will give more performance to cost ratio imo.

but whatever amd releases nvidia can release something that beats it lol. intel and nvidia i think sit on top, and charge premium for it on top end stuff that amd doesnt have out. //bottom line get nvidia if you fanboy or want to just say i have nvidia, otherwise go with amd//

inb4 Nvidia vs ATI and AMD vs Intel flame war

go for 8GB for gaming, more is only needed if you do video editing or have many applications open at the same time; since I'm a fanboy I'd recomend Nvidia over ATI and AMD over Intel ;-)

Now, you can use this website to make an informed decision, click on the component you want to get and it will tell you the average price and how much value you get for it compared to 10 others depending on what you are looking for like performance over price or viceversa:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

One advice i can give you, is get a good monitor with high res

A slow card / less ram can still handle the game pretty well (I am on an old laptop with an old Geforce Mobile card and 4gb ram), but the big problem i have is my screen is too small to do things like the others

Also accesories like an expensive mouse where you can map skill keys on it will also help

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Originally Posted by diulalasing

One advice i can give you, is get a good monitor with high res

A slow card / less ram can still handle the game pretty well (I am on an old laptop with an old Geforce Mobile card and 4gb ram), but the big problem i have is my screen is too small to do things like the others

Also accesories like an expensive mouse where you can map skill keys on it will also help

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i put in my order, and it was over $2,100 so they gave me a free 32 inch 1080p monitor. I am hoping that will be big enough ^^

Now I am frantically waiting for it to arrive!!! they said it will take about 2 weeks to get all the parts together and build it, than they ship it and that will take another week to 2 weeks AAAGHHHH!!!!!!! I can't handle 3 -4 weeks with no FFXIV this past weeks alone has made me loose my mind /cries

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Also if my coil static haasn't kicked me out for not being able to log in I will of lost out on like 1,500 mythology tomes, this is what makes me cry the most.