So, about allagan weps being increased to ilvl 95

It's great i think that beating turn 5 should have some kind of reward other than a side grade, and I'd love to be able to get the wAtk boost that comes with increased ilvl. My only problem is that as a BLM the allagan weapon is a 1-hand so I'd need the shield for it to be useful...... the shield that no one can find.

Prob drops from turn 5. Do we have the complete loot list from that?

As far as I can tell no one has found it, even in turn 5. At least according to this thread and spreadsheet.

Stardust Rod is still what I'll use then.

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Originally Posted by Pinworms

Prob drops from turn 5. Do we have the complete loot list from that?

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Enough people have cleared the content at this point to know the caster and healer shields do not drop. It makes sense for whm considering both their allagan and relic are a 2 hander but with blm only their relic is, making the allagan one still subpar when paired with an ilvl 60 shield.

My problem is that I'd definitely use the Allagan Scepter if I could but without the shield it would be worthless. The weird part is that the shield is in their item database but there's no way to get it.

Do you think a Penta-melded Darksteel Buckler and Allagan Scepter be better than a Relic+1?

I doubt it the stat caps on shields look to be pretty low so making up the 3 int you'd lose would be pretty difficult.

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Originally Posted by Archulak

I doubt it the stat caps on shields look to be pretty low so making up the 3 int you'd lose would be pretty difficult.

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Have to factor in how much weapon dasmage ilvl95 will give, if its 2 more then itll still do more damage overall with 5 melds, or should match relic+1 at the very least.

That may be true but my problem is that every other dps class gets a clear boost in their allagan wep where BLM has to penta-meld a lower lvl shield to get a side grade.

Where art thou BLM shield?! The only problem with the crafted shield + allagan MH being (maybe) equivalent to relic +1 is the fact that in itself that wouldn't be an "upgrade" which defeats the purpose of changing the allagan weapons to ilvl95 (at least for the BLMs sake). If the shield were to drop in T5 along with the rest of the weapons it would still be a small rng hassle to aquire both but, at least it would be attainable.

Maybe itll be added in 2.1, 2.2? Who knows. xD

I'm just happy I dont need to get to turn 5 to get a new weapon.

But I want to be excited about clearing turn 5 and the BLM wep dropping not just sitting there saying to myself, great we got the one worthless weapon.

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Originally Posted by Archulak

But I want to be excited about clearing turn 5 and the BLM wep dropping not just sitting there saying to myself, great we got the one worthless weapon.

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Yeah, that does suck. I can't relate as much though, I hate 1 handers. :3

Maybe the EM primal quest will give BLMs a shield? Its a stretch but you never know!

Anyone see new drops/loot distribution out of turn1 since the hotfix last week? My group got the caster ring AGAIN, and I dunno what the change was exactly. Conceivably shields not dropping could be related.

The real question, is whether or not there will be a new upgrade for relic weapons from extreme modes or possibly a ultima weapon chain.

I'm just really wondering why they included the BLM and WHM shields in the item database when they're the only things I can see in there that you can't get from the game currently or from 1.0.

CT may drop an iLevel 80 sheild so it'll probably be worth it with that.

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Originally Posted by Arale

Yeah, that does suck. I can't relate as much though, I hate 1 handers. :3

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Personally I prefer 1 handers. Having a shield is actually helpful since your weapon is drawn unlike in v1.0, it gives you a small survivability edge for not that much compromise.

would be nice to have an offical response to this :) where is this shield? cause as it stands the 1 handed scepter is worth considerably less than its other dps weapon counterparts