[Solution] How to queue up for Crystal Tower as a FC of 24Man!

Threads are already starting to complain about SEs design choice. Despite the fact that this is gonna be a 2.1 issue and will be changed in future patches, so you can queue as 24man. Here is what my FC thought off to maximize the chance of queuing up as 3 groups but getting inside CT together.

Step 1: Form 3 groups of equal setups(2 Tanks, 2 Healers, 4 DDs)
Step 2: Everybody changes their "DF language" to something specific, like French, or German(depending on what server you play on)
Step 3: All 3 groups queue up at the same time.

Step 4: Server process. DF always looks for members on your server first and based on the language picked. If they can't find anything suitable on your server, they start to look for groups from other servers based on your language picked. Then he looks for groups of any language on any server.

Since all 3 groups picked a specific language and are on the same server, queuing up at the same time, there should be a high chance of getting your 3 desired groups into Crystal Tower together.

Problem solved.

This is an interesting idea, though with more and more people potentially doing this it is less and less likely to be effective. Additionally, can you point to some sort of confirmation that the duty finder actually prioritizes your own server first? Now that I think about it, it may well be the case given that I've run into people on my server quite often, but is this just an assumption of yours or has SE actually said this is how it worked?

Aside from that, this is certainly not "problem solved". The player base shouldn't have to use workarounds like this (that aren't even guaranteed to work) just to be able to play together. This and the Coil lockouts cause unnecessary tension in FCs when people are inevitably forced to sit out from doing an event and could be easily alleviated if the players stopped just accepting these things and demanding a fix from SE.

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Originally Posted by HiliteOrin

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it works...sometimes. i have had FC members replace dropped PUGs by using the DF's "join session in progress" function. it worked 9/10 times.

i have also queued up with a warrior for brayfox that was standing 10 feet away from me. we were not in the same party.

Kind of like platoon countdowns in World of Tank.

I'd suggest any large FC to try this rather than cry foul. There is a good chance this will work. If on JP server queue your groups as French or something.

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

it works...sometimes. i have had FC members replace dropped PUGs by using the DF's "join session in progress" function. it worked 9/10 times.

i have also queued up with a warrior for brayfox that was standing 10 feet away from me. we were not in the same party.

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That's more to do with the fact that most people don't use "Join in Progress", rather than queueing at the same time.

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Originally Posted by HiliteOrin

This is an interesting idea, though with more and more people potentially doing this it is less and less likely to be effective. Additionally, can you point to some sort of confirmation that the duty finder actually prioritizes your own server first? Now that I think about it, it may well be the case given that I've run into people on my server quite often, but is this just an assumption of yours or has SE actually said this is how it worked?

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This isn't a problem solved as 24 raid queues should be implemented but this is a very good fix. The chance of another 24 man group queueing up at the EXACT same time in German or French (in an English-dominant server) is extremely unlikely. If the queue timers don't pop at the exact same time (organize this over some voice program) then just decline the queue and try again.

I've tried queue'ing for individual languages before. In the end I get what's on my data center (JP/EN), of course, I can't get French and Deutch in Japan-Land. But when queue'ing for Japanese, why do I wind up with English players sometimes?

I think it's because it also considers your client's language into it. So if you have an under line on E, you'd also get queue'd with E regardless your preferences. That is what they are, preferences, nothing more.

This sounds like it'd work in theory but I don't see it happening very often, or well.

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

That's more to do with the fact that most people don't use "Join in Progress", rather than queueing at the same time.

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most of the time we were replacing the tank. on brayfox or qarn.

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Originally Posted by HiliteOrin

This is an interesting idea, though with more and more people potentially doing this it is less and less likely to be effective. Additionally, can you point to some sort of confirmation that the duty finder actually prioritizes your own server first? Now that I think about it, it may well be the case given that I've run into people on my server quite often, but is this just an assumption of yours or has SE actually said this is how it worked?

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I can't direct you to a link, but Yoshida stated himself (when all the congestion and DF instances being reserved issues happened) that this is how DF matches players together. It is prolly still somewhere in the forums, but I don't really feel like browsing through hundreds and hundreds of Dev posts xD

@CalvatE: You end up with english players, cause you couldn't be matched with JPs in a reasonable time. As you said it is a preference, but it won't let you queue for hours if there is no one from that language available, instead he just matches you with players who queue for the same thing. If 3 groups queue up at the same time with a specific language picked there should be a very high chance of those 3 groups getting into CT together.

The problem isn't people queueing up at the same time, the problem is where in the line you get put. There could be 1 group waiting, when your 3 groups join, 2 get in, third does not.

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Originally Posted by ispano

The problem isn't people queueing up at the same time, the problem is where in the line you get put. There could be 1 group waiting, when your 3 groups join, 2 get in, third does not.

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That is why you pick a specific language before you queue, to raise the odds of getting in with the 2 groups you want to get in with.

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Originally Posted by TirionCrey

That is why you pick a specific language before you queue, to raise the odds of getting in with the 2 groups you want to get in with.

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Would have to depend on time of day, but even then I see JP/DE/FR all the time in DF.