BCoB - Dreadnoughts

In BCoB Turn 4, you get waves upon waves of Clockwork Soldiers, Knights and Dreadnoughts

The interesting thing I've noticed is that the Dreadnoughts have the exact same look as the Dreadnoughts in FFXIII

BCoB Clockwork Dreadnoughts -
http://i.imgur.com/omCrJuH.jpg

FFXIII Dreadnoughts -
http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...readnought.jpg

Was this intentional or unintentional? might this point to something in the works like Hydaelyn is actually Gran Pulse or perhaps the devs simply reused the same model in FFXIII for FFXIV?

I think it's just another way to show that the Allagan were very advanced in thier technology, similar to how there's all these robots in Gran Pulse where it's supposed to be a seemingly wildlife-ish area. Aside from the Lightning event there's pretty much no more connection between Eorzea and the Nova Crystalis series

I think this is 100% easter egg type material.

I did wonder about this a lot too.
Since the allagan´s had the technology to create a manmade moon and send/shoot it into space.

Similar to how the the people in Final Fantasy XIII's realm live in a manmade moon too and lived on it (cocoon).
This was ofcourse with help of the Fal'Cie.

The soldiers and knights are also near-100% rips from FFXIII, my theory being that these models were chosen because they were finished (either from being in FFXIII or being meant to be used in the lightning fate) and could be implemented easily. Due to the time constraints of going from 1.0 to 2.0 fast, they had to create the end-game as fast as possible and since it would be the content that people would A) See last, and B) See the least, they propably had to use existing models rather than create completely new creatures.

Aside from the ADSs and Turn 5's boss, every creature in the coil is a reused model.

Actually that type of enemy model has been reused over many final fantasys. Ican reremember this exact mob in ff7

Actually that type of enemy model has been reused over many final fantasys. Ican reremember this exact mob in ff7

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Originally Posted by Testosterone

Actually that type of enemy model has been reused over many final fantasys. Ican reremember this exact mob in ff7

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I'm assuming you're referring to this guy http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...weeper_FF7.png
The dreadnought as is really hasn't been seen outside 13. I would assume XIV and 13 have similar layout wich allows for nay model to be swapped in both games easily and that is probably why they pulled them and the Lightning event over.

Yeah, the FFXIII dreadnoughts indeed did look a lot like the Sweepers from FFVII, but their appearance in ARR is most likely just another example of cross-game fanservice, like FFVI magitek armour or Cid's airship being called the Enterprise.

Hydaelyn is not Gran Pulse or any other FF world/universe (after all, some people have also said it's Ivalice, FFVII's Planet, FFIII's world and others simply based on similar references), its it's own separate world and universe.

To note, in one of Lightning's FATEs she does fights a Clockwork Dreadnought. Not a Pulsework one. Given that is probably because all of those mobs have been renamed to thinks eorzeans would recognize such as "Armored Beast" for the Alpha Behemoth.

This is like an easter egg-ish cross-reference, yes. Hell, the Clockwork Soldiers behave the same way that the Pulsework Soldiers, they even stagger, bcaue if you break their physical stoneskin they actually open the core and stop attacking same way the Pulsework Soldiers in XIII open the core and stop attacking when you stagger them

When I first saw these in Turn 4 I thought they looked like Phantom Train with arms and legs stuck on. =P

The Spiders in Turn 4 are also Mimics, along with the crocodiles/alligator things in Coerthas are from XII. Caduceus is from VIII. I expect to see a lot more reused models.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Yeah, the FFXIII dreadnoughts indeed did look a lot like the Sweepers from FFVII, but their appearance in ARR is most likely just another example of cross-game fanservice, like FFVI magitek armour or Cid's airship being called the Enterprise.

Hydaelyn is not Gran Pulse or any other FF world/universe (after all, some people have also said it's Ivalice, FFVII's Planet, FFIII's world and others simply based on similar references), its it's own separate world and universe.

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Yeah, let's be careful of "references" meaning "OMG it's the same thing as...!". Not that I'm accusing you of that Enkidoh, I remember the discussion we had back before ARR was launched and I know you were one of the level headed people who knew that the whole FF universe isn't all related to each other and can be traveled to with the right means (my God that discussion was ridiculous).

they pretty much recycled some of the turn 4 mobs from ffxiii models. clockwork dreadnoughts are the same as the dreadnoughts from XIII, and clockwork knights are identical to pulsework centurions from XIII

There's a ton of reused FFXII models, so a few reused ones from FFXIII in the coil is no surprise (although the fact that the reused FFXIII models are relegated exclusively to this dungeon is a bit odd). For reference, all these enemy types are identical to their models in FFXII:

Mantis
Death Gaze
Serpent (this is the enemy Caduceus is based off of, not the Anacondaur from FFVIII, although they are both similar enough for the XII one to be considered an evolution of the VIII one).
Croc
Aevis
Gorynych (Chudo-Yudo's enemy type, apparently. It's the Ring Wyrm from FFXII)
Mirrorknight
Facer
Statue
Clockwork Bugs (FFXII Mimics)
Rook (FFXII Spinner-rooks)

So yeah, lots of FFXII love in this game. And that's not a bad thing at all.

Well, there were a lot of reused enemy models from FFXI too (goblins, qiqirn, mamool'jaa, pugils, saplings, gobbuues, mandragora, small crabs - the later lampshaded in the description of the 'smallshell' minion for it referring to them being a traditional source of exp at the Valkurm Dunes! ;)). Not to mention the playable character races are clearly based on FFXI's 'enlightened races' too, although there are some slight differences between them (roegadyn don't have tails for instance, unlike their FFXI galka brothers).

As I said before, FFXIV is clearly an amalgamation of references from all FF games, not just one.

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The soldiers and knights are also near-100% rips from FFXIII, my theory being that these models were chosen because they were finished (either from being in FFXIII or being meant to be used in the lightning fate) and could be implemented easily. Due to the time constraints of going from 1.0 to 2.0 fast, they had to create the end-game as fast as possible and since it would be the content that people would A) See last, and B) See the least, they propably had to use existing models rather than create completely new creatures.

Aside from the ADSs and Turn 5's boss, every creature in the coil is a reused model.

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ADS is a rip of Final Fantasy IV's CPU boss.

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

ADS is a rip of Final Fantasy IV's CPU boss.

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This, it even had additional nodes that altered its stats / attacks if I recall correctly.
And while Twintania isn't a reused model, it's appeared in several other FFs :)

Its for the exact same reason there are other creatures from other Final Fantasy titles in game. Its supposed to be reminiscent of previous titles.