Crafting same ilvl items than me HQ?

Hi, I'm lv40 Weaver, lv16 Leatherworker and all the other crafts at random level between 1 and 15.
Well, levelling up my Weaver I noticed that after lv30-35 the class quests start to ask HQ gear pieces that are at my level, now I'm lv40 and I have to craft Woolen Tights HQ, that are ilvl41 O.O
I can easily HQ Cotton gear, Velveteen is really rare, Linen is impossible for me, so how the heck would I make HQ Woolen?
Is there anything I'm missing about Touch skills?
Here is what I usually do to get the best quality out of a craft:

If it is low level:
Great Strides
Standard Touch
repeat this until 10 durability
Careful/Basic Synthesis

I usually get more than 90% HQ rate.

If it is just a few levels under me:
||Great Strides
Basic Synthesis x0/x1/x2 (until I get red light, or until last Great Strides turn)
Standard Touch *Great Strides wears off*||
repeat until 10 durability, making sure to you reach it needing only 1 Careful Synthesis
Careful Synthesis

I usually get 70-90% HQ rate.

If it is far above me:
Great Strides
Standard Synthesis x1/x2 (until I get red light, but without reaching 100% progress)
Standard Touch *Great Strides wears off*
||Great Strides
Standard Touch||
repeat until 10 durability, making sure you'll need only 1 Careful Synthesis now
Careful Synthesis

With Linen gear I usually get a maximum of 25-28% with lots of red lights, 40% with rainbow light + Great Strides.


Please teach me how to HQ more often Woolen gear, I don't have the gil to buy Woolen Tights HQ

Get Hasty Touch from 15 CUL. It is a crafting godsend. With Steady Hands up it replicates a Basic Touch in terms of possibility of success yet costs no CP. Also get Tricks of the Trade for 15 ALC. It lets you recover CP on any "Good" condition

Your rotation is Inner Quiet -> Steady Hands -> Hasty Touch*3, then refill Durability and rinse and repeat.

It's also helpful to use at least one HQ mat - for instance I was making HQ linen yarn with one NQ flax and 1 HQ flax even at the same level.

Got beat to the punch on Hasty Touch and Tricks of the Trade.

Since you're a level 16 LeatherWorker, use Waste Not as well.

Steady Hand - Waste Not - Hasty Touch is a good rotation to do.

Use HQ mats you can get 1/2 the needed number for 100% this way.

Ok, so CUL and ALC, thanks :)
I'm lv3 CUL and lv8 ALC, so it won't be hard :D
Thanks for advice.

I would also get new main-hand and off-hand tools. You basically need any stats it may add to HQ stuffs at your level. What I find helps though is to level Botanist to 32-ish to gather flax yourself and mix and match the HQ flax with the NQ flax in order to HQ the linen yarn and undyed linen needed to make the final item. I don't think I had any problems leveling weaver as my first 50 crafting this way but I had all other crafts at 15 too. Also, always make the best gears you can wear HQ first before attempting anything else. This helps in the long run as you can spiritbond it faster as well as having higher stats when you work on items for leves or quests.

Make sure all your gear is the best available, especially your main and offhand tools. You can also convert your lower level gear into materia to meld, which helps. HQ base mats help as well.

It's hard to make suggestions without coming across as bitter and sour but it really does come down to HQ Mats or a low emotional investment in the game. By that I mean you need to be able to sit there and watch Hasty Touch blow up over and over, right click the NQ trash, discard and stack HQ as they come.

The only reason I was able to get through Weaver HQ quest items was I came in to ARR with a 1.00 leve quested level 50 weaver and had stacks of wool and felt from the rewards tables in 1.00 and I could afford to sit there and watch NQ trash float up 80% of the time until it coughed up an HQ. I'm pretty sure at the end, I gave up and bought one of the Patrician pieces they ask for at 50.

Awwww yiss I managed to create Woolen Tights HQ from HQ Woolen Yarn and HQ Undyed Woolen Cloth reaching 34% XD
I bought mats from the marketboard for 20.000 gil (everything I had XD) and had only one chance... Did it :D
Now I'm looking for shards and I'm goin to lvup the other crafts to 15 :)

For sure get others to 15 and use food. Careful Synthesis can eat a lot of dura if you have a low craftsmanship. I am often required to use 5 steps to get to 100 with CS II. Weaver learned rotations are a bit different than other classes because of how we gain CP for quality but lose dura surplus.

Gratz on the HQ tho.

Recap what others have said.
1. Make sure your gear is upgraded to the best it can be (just for easier HQing).
2. if money isn't an issue (not sure where you're at overall in game), get some Control and CP melded into your gear AGAIN: ONLY IF MONEY ISN"T AN ISSUE
3. You're Single largets benefit is going to be HQ sub-components. At that point you'll never HQ without HQ mats. Woolen is a biiiitach beacuse those little sheep not only
are heavily contested but don't give up the HQ goods often.
4. I personally DO NOT like Hasty touch. Maybe it's cause I don't have Steady Hand II but RNG hates me so I definitely fail WAY more often. I personally use.
Inner Quiet->Great Strides->Steady Hand->Advanced Touch. Rinse repeat. At this point I use Good Condition for extra quality because I don't need the CP regen for lower level gear but you may use Tricks of the Trade for a CP boost.

Thanks for the advice, now I am lv42 WVR, next level I'm gonna get Advanced Touch, and I am lv15 ALC, GSM and lv16 LTW, so I have Tricks of the Trade, Manipulation and Waste Not.

Now that I have those 2 abilities my rotation are different from before:

When the craft is low level, I just spam Great Strides>Standard Touch, then Standard Synthesis if Careful isn't enough.

When it is 100+ progress:
Great Strides
now I can have red light on the first, second, or third step after this, so if it's on first, Standard Touch, if it's on second, Standard Synthesis>Standard Touch, if on third Standard Synthesis>Steady Hand>Standard Touch

When it is a REALLY difficult 80 durability recipe:
Great Strides
Standard Synthesis/Brand of [element]
Steady Hand
Standard Touch
Great Strides
Standard Touch
and repeat until 10 durability having just to do one synthesis more.
During this difficult recipes, I usually use Tricks of the Trade on every Good condition I can.

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Originally Posted by Githiun

ONLY IF MONEY ISN'T AN ISSUE

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I now have 20k gil, some days ago I had 96 gil.
Yes money is an issue XD
Levelling up a craft without money is damn hard DD:

Yeah I, I sunk so much money into crafting early on. It hasn't been but in the last 2-3 weeks that money really isn't an option. I've got roughly 400k in the bank atm and have sunk about 300k into materia for my lvl 50 Carp and Weaver gear.

It gets easier. I make 95% of my money from making weaver gear.

Well, I'd really like to earn some gil when I hit lv50 WVR, does Vanya HQ crafting make good gil?
I don't think I can lv50 other craft without at least 100k gil each :/

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Originally Posted by YanDere

Well, I'd really like to earn some gil when I hit lv50 WVR, does Vanya HQ crafting make good gil?
I don't think I can lv50 other craft without at least 100k gil each :/

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Depends on the server you're on but generally average profit. You won't be able to HQ Vanya as soon as you hit 50 WVR without other classes at 50. CPT is almost a must. ALC helps lower CP requirements. Also, you need some melding to even attempt it. Level a gatherer would ease up the cost on leveling a craft but even then, I don't find money too much of a necessity to level craft these days, just leves allowances.

WVR requires a lot of mats that come from mobs drop, like Diremite Webs and Fleece.
I can earn 4 webs each leve allowance, but this isn'e enough when I have to craft multiple HQ Velveteen recipes.
The fastest way is to buy from the marketboard, and this takes lots of gil, on Ragnarok NQ Fleece is 500 each.
Now I am out of leve allowance and 3 every 6 hours is just too slow for me to get WVR to lv50.
Any suggestions?

In your case, I would level a Botanist, gather Flax, make Linen Hat (from a leve in Ul'dah called Crunching the Number) x9 and turn in for 215k EXP per turn-in all HQ.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

In your case, I would level a Botanist, gather Flax, make Linen Hat (from a leve in Ul'dah called Crunching the Number) x9 and turn in for 215k EXP per turn-in all HQ.

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It's not that easy to make HQ linen gear, for a lv42 WVR...
I think I might HQ 1 out of 9 of them.
I leveled up from lv20 to lv40 just making Cotton Doublet Vest of Gathering for "Doublet Jeopardy", 30k each vest.

I'm a lvl 35 WVR (I think) and I crafted a HQ linen set for my WHM.

As a WVR, my most important skills, whether 40 or 80 durability, are Inner Quiet+Rumination, Steady Hands, Tricks of the Trade, and Manipulation. I never use a touch or synth that is below 90% because it seems to fail more often than succeeds (which may or may not be true). Tricks is useful for when a Good status comes up at awkward times, and IMO Manipulation is better than Waste Not because if you use a touch/synth while Manipulation is up, it costs no durability, and if you use any other skills while it's up, it increases your durability (not a single wasted step).

Inner Quiet is the most important, if you ask me. You should try to use about 4 or five Basic Touch skills while you have Inner Quiet before you start with the Great Strides+Standard Touch. Then Rumination will give you at least 50 CP back at the end. Steady Hands should always be up in case you get an excellent condition.

Hasty Touch is only semi-useful if you have no CP left but extra durability, and you'll find multiple threads about people relying on it and getting burned too much.

TL;DR: My crafting strategy is to go after skills that ensure 90-100% success rates, with no wasted procs or steps inbetween.

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Originally Posted by YanDere

It's not that easy to make HQ linen gear, for a lv42 WVR...
I think I might HQ 1 out of 9 of them.
I leveled up from lv20 to lv40 just making Cotton Doublet Vest of Gathering for "Doublet Jeopardy", 30k each vest.

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Huh? I don't remember having that much trouble crafting HQ Linen hat from 35 to 50 all the way. That was my first 50 crafting so it's not like I have other 50 skills neither. Are you sure you are using at least 1 HQ Flax to make each Linen yarn to HQ and at least 1 HQ Linen yarn to HQ the Undyed linen? With 2 HQ undyed linen and a HQ linen yarn, it should give you about 50% of the quality bar already since the crow feather doesn't matter much. If you're just buying the NQ Flax, yeah don't expect to HQ mats at your level.

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Originally Posted by YanDere

Well, I'd really like to earn some gil when I hit lv50 WVR, does Vanya HQ crafting make good gil?
I don't think I can lv50 other craft without at least 100k gil each :/

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Profit margin (percentage not total gil) seem son par with other lower tiered items. BUT, you have to make 10x the items, sell 10x the items to equal but you have 10x the risk with Vanya.

With vanya you're dealing with either 200-400k in mats or countless hours of farming Philo tomes. most vanya require 9 Potash which are on average around 20K each(on my server) or 125 philo tomes.

Cost aside in order to guaranteed a 100% HQ rate you'll need multiple level 50's and probably close to 500-750k in materia melded...just a ball park. Much more cost involved with doing 2star.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Huh? I don't remember having that much trouble crafting HQ Linen hat from 35 to 50 all the way. That was my first 50 crafting so it's not like I have other 50 skills neither. Are you sure you are using at least 1 HQ Flax to make each Linen yarn to HQ and at least 1 HQ Linen yarn to HQ the Undyed linen? With 2 HQ undyed linen and a HQ linen yarn, it should give you about 50% of the quality bar already since the crow feather doesn't matter much. If you're just buying the NQ Flax, yeah don't expect to HQ mats at your level.

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I'm lv6 BTN so HQ Flax is not possible since I buy it from the marketboard.
I managed to create a HQ Linen Hat with just 1 HQ Undyed Linen and 1 HQ Linen Yarn, so I think it won't be so hard :)
Thanks for advice ^^

It can still happen with a lower chance of HQ. I personally leveled BTN to 32 to gather Flax around Camp Tranquill. For Linen Hat, I used to mix 2 HQ with 1 NQ like you did (HQ undyed linen and HQ linen yarn or 2 HQ undyed linen with NQ linen yarn) and managed around 90% HQ I think. BTN is really just so you don't have to buy the HQ Flax. I think I got about 1 HQ to every 2 NQ. Speaking of which, I thought Linen yarn required 3 Flax lol. Did they change up the recipe? Once I got Byregot's Blessing, it became a whole lot easier to HQ stuffs.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

It can still happen with a lower chance of HQ. I personally leveled BTN to 32 to gather Flax around Camp Tranquill. For Linen Hat, I used to mix 2 HQ with 1 NQ like you did (HQ undyed linen and HQ linen yarn or 2 HQ undyed linen with NQ linen yarn) and managed around 90% HQ I think. BTN is really just so you don't have to buy the HQ Flax. I think I got about 1 HQ to every 2 NQ.

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I want to get WVR to lv50 first, then I'll do CRP and other crafts to make Vanya HQ gear for my WHM.
Today I made at least 15 hats, 5 turned HQ -.-
I have the best gear possible (Electrum accessories HQ, Wolf Fang Needle HQ, GC Smock and Gloves lv41, the rest is HQ linen), but still I often get no more than 30% with NQ mats. With HQ mats if I'm lucky I can even get 100% though.
I think once I get Advanced Touch (I'm lv42 and that's lv43) things might become a bit easier.
I use Steady Hand, Tricks of the Trade and Careful Synthesis.