Is it just me or does BLM need a buff? Need confirmation if I am right with this.

As it looks now from what I have seen and heard BLM is obsolete in coil.

Before I got flamed, the party setup is like this on the DPS front:
2-3 bards (usually, sometimes 1 does, but pretty rare) 1-2 Melee DPS (Because of melee LB
0-1!!! Magic DPS. Where SMN is WAY better in both DMG and utility.

This leaves us BLM in pretty bad position. Not WAR bad, but still bad.

Can someone please confirm to me that it is just me. Nothing would make it happier, but from the theory craft going on in the circles I play this seems to sadly be true.

I just want to have it confirmed if I am right or wrong

it's just you

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

it's just you

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As a blm I feel that it is very easy to do terrible dps if u aren't familiar and confortable with your rotation. If u have to stop mid rotation you need to know where to start again. It can take us a while to spool up again, I don't really have any advice because blm rotation is pretty much the same for everyone, it just comes down to feeling blm as a part of you. Get so familiar with blm that u don't have to think what to do next. I hear smn is great for turn 5 because they can slow whatever, have a pet take conflag, but blm is not useless in coil. Monday when we cleared turn 4 I did 186k total dmg with 334 dps. That makes me feel pretty decent about BLM. I don't think we need a buff just some minor adjustments. Oh, and manawall is the bees knees.

lolno

If groups are bringing in 2-3 bards over any other class they're gimping their raid for bringing in subpar dps over a caster or another melee. 2 bards I can understand due to how much utility they give, but 3? At that point there is no extra utility to give and that bard is taking up a spot where another dps could come in and actually bring some real dps over the gimped bard.

Ok :) Thanks for disproving my concern! :)

Most groups I roll with have a black mage and even two on turn 4 due to mechanics. Good summoners are hard to find, but then again, good players in general are hard to find.

Black mages can do more dps than other positions at times if they are doing their rotations right, and depending on their gear, as stated above. Trust me, blms are not obsolete anywhere. No matter what position you play, if you do it well, people will want you.

Great :D I was just worried after some theorycrafting we did. :) Thanks once again!

Who is taking three bards?

1 or 2 bards.
1 or 2 casters.
1 and very rarely 2 melee.

People only really want two bards in Coil because of T2 and their silence being the easiest to use.

I think BLM is fine.

My coil group is PLD, WAR, DRG, BRD, BRD, BLM (me), WHM, SCH. Its as diverse as the "its a small world" attraction at Disney Land. Even with the caster/physical restrictions on turn 4, we manage to crush it week in and week out.

Also, on turn 2, you can be the relay man in the allagan rot chain by teleporting the rot from person 4 to person 1. Granted after the first rot rotation, its not necessary (due to temporary immunity), but its still really fun, looks cool, and makes you feel like a badass.

There is one thing I wish it'd get changed.
Firestarter procs- I just hate it when it procs and I'm mid cast of already another spell.

BLM is fine, wait until cast times drop under 2ish seconds and even moving after the 1st cast second wont interrupt you

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Originally Posted by FonzworthBentley

I don't really have any advice because blm rotation is pretty much the same for everyone, it just comes down to feeling blm as a part of you.

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Love this ^^ You have to feel your inner BLM! Nuke <3

I was invited to the coils group im in because i know how to play my class well and it seems the group was hellbent on wanting a blm in their group. There seems to be a very high demand for us n we will see how even more it is when we get more utility per what was mentioned today.

I'm actually swapping out one of the dps in my coil group for a BLM. They have great dps and their skills are really useful for their own potential survivability. I have a relic BLM as my secondary class and am pretty happy with the skill set.

They do fine DPS (and are sneaky survivable too). But imagine if they had a little bit of utility outside of just in Coil/primals?
Like a silence/stun :o

Or just make sleep useful there, I suppose.

So what exactly did you theorycraft? To me this 'theorycraft' sounds like a disguise xD

Whenever I Coil with a blm, it's 200+ dmg. When they can AoE, it just gets crazy... Looks fine if you'd ask me.