Hello everyone. Thank you in advance, as I really appreciate the collected data.
What I am looking for is a 4 minute parse on a Test Dummy going all out with your class. If you didn't last the full 4 minutes before going Out of Mana, or Out of TP then just write how long you went. It's not really about who can do the most damage so don't worry about using food, pots etc.
Requirements
- Minimum Gear - Darklight + Relic
- Healing Classes - Cleric Stance
- Single Target - choose a dummy that will have the least amount of AOE hitting other Dummy's.
- Tank Classes - Please use a Tank Stance - Defiance/Shield Oath
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11-20-2013, 12:19 PMJudge_XeroBaseline DPS per Class - Volunteers Needed *** All Classes - except DOH, DOL
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11-20-2013, 01:23 PMPessimiStick
270 DPS as BLM with < 251 PIE with +1 and full DL.
That was a 7 minute parse, but same diff.
Edit: Here's a fresh one, 3:41. I was guessing on the time, little short. 271.73 DPS. -
11-20-2013, 01:42 PMZigkid3
Probably best if you require screenshots with the parse, otherwise people on these forums like to fudge their numbers to make them look cool
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11-20-2013, 03:20 PMThorauku
I can see Summoner's future in this thread. http://i.imgur.com/1Vx8MXz.gif
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11-21-2013, 04:23 AMMadoka
Does either parser do SMN right yet?
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11-21-2013, 04:25 AMPessimiStickNo parser will ever do SMN (or DoTs generally) right until SE fixes the combatlog to not be garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madoka
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11-21-2013, 06:21 AMBardoThe issue with dots and the parser is moot though if you're solo attacking a training dummy, is it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by PessimiStick
The parser might not be able to attribute the correct damage amounts to each individual dot, but the overall damage and dps numbers should be accurate. -
11-21-2013, 06:40 AMPessimiStickNope. DoT damage is not represented in the CL at all. The parser guesses what your damage will be on the DoTs based on what your other damage has been (or just based on some "stock" damage value). It's an un-solvable problem until they make the combat log stop sucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bardo
For example, I don't think parsers handle RS/Contagion at all. There's also no way for a parser to know if you got the expected number of ticks from your DoT, or if you lost one due to clipping, or gained one from lucky timing, etc. At best it can provide a reasonable facsimile. -
11-22-2013, 12:08 PMJudge_Xero
Thanks Pessimistic for your data.
With the incoming changes to Warrior, party DPS and composition wont play a big role in it's endgame survival.
At this point, I guess there's no point in further testing. Thanks everyone who participated. -
11-22-2013, 05:44 PMGardes
How about... taking a video of the parsing in progress for SMNs and then rewatch the video to take notes of every single dot dmg and totalling it for use?
I mean, you guys already spend alot of time parsing this and that anyway. -
11-22-2013, 06:53 PMSleigh
Your restrictions are far too loose, even if people had posted their results. Someone could have ended their parse very short by going out of TP but ending with every cooldown recently used, or at the highlight of their DPS before some down-time or a phase where they're not at their optimal.
I'm not sure for what purpose you want these parser numbers, but you should give a more rigid guideline towards your goal so every person testing can go by the same standard. If you just want to know burst for a 1 - 2 minute WP/AK boss fight, go for a 90 second timer. If you want to know who's best at killing trash, do a 15 second timer (which even then would be very inaccurate since non-GCDs are rarely in use on trash - for instance, you could have a SMN use Fester + Energy Drain + Energy Drain to go wild over 10s, but that's not what would happen in most situations against trash because of Bane and wanting to save for Fester or Shadow Flare, and is a poor baseline for comparison). If you want a sustained 4 minute parser result, TP and MP are issues and shouldn't be thrown aside if you go OoM. -
11-22-2013, 11:51 PMpandabearcat
If you want actual potency numbers, I have them for DoW classes.
Note that BRD should do true dps lower than DRGs, as they have a weapon damage penalty.Code:DRG (panda rotation) avg potency: 144912.10862 PPS: 201.2668175277778
BRD (no DE) avg potency: 147679.25512 PPS: 205.11007655555554
MNK (no filler) avg potency: 155706.09278 PPS: 216.25846219444446
Note also this is with infinite TP, and TP order goes roughly Monk, Bard, DRG for sustainability.
AoE is not calculated. -
11-23-2013, 06:08 AMChurchill
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11-23-2013, 06:14 AMZigkid3Not able to see the twitch links, but you should name your character Winston if you haven't already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Churchill
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11-23-2013, 06:15 AMAllyrionWhat's the panda rotation? I must know!Quote:
Originally Posted by pandabearcat
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11-23-2013, 06:25 AMChurchillQuote:
Originally Posted by Churchill
Paladin: 383STR/225DPS - Sword Oath/DPS Accessories | 342STR/135DPS - Shield Oath/Tank AccessoriesQuote:
Originally Posted by Zigkid3
Warrior: 414STR/252DPS - No Defiance/DPS Accessories | 373STR/170DPS - Defiance/Tank Accessories
Main difference being that Warriors DPS combo is hard to maintain against top-tier DD's without breaks/lulls in combat and that Paladin can tank a lot of current content in their DPS setup (or a slightly modified version). -
11-23-2013, 07:09 AMpandabearcatEven I can't remember what it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyrion
I think its something like
H IDC P TTT H TTT
P IDC H TTT P TTT
After every IDC P or P IDC, if you had BfB up for it, you should insert a FR before the next combo in order to make sure your DoTs don't clip.
PS this rotation was totally stolen from easy and I don't play dragoon, but it sims well and we unanimously decided that it should be called the panda rotation.
You insert FR is the previous appplication had a buff (BfB or IR), so your second application doesn't clip.