Why Monday?

You know SE... on Mondays like you know right when you reset the cap and Bahamut's Coil.

Many groups are eager to farm out their Mythology cap to get their cool new piece of gear... Or make their runs through Coil and open their boxes...

This is the 2nd week in a row that there has been maintenance on Monday night.

Now I don't suggest weekend maintenance at all but um... later in the week when people are already capped, or have finished up their coil routine for the week... Might be a better time.

In that much of a rush to cap out for the week? Takes a few hours for T1-T4

because "Hotfix"

Yeah, Monday is the only day you can play XIV, Tuesday - Sunday the game is offline.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Yeah, Monday is the only day you can play XIV, Tuesday - Sunday the game is offline.

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It usually is offline for at least one or two more days Tusday - Sunday, so you're partly correct anyhow.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

In that much of a rush to cap out for the week? Takes a few hours for T1-T4

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more like 40 min

Maintenance has been Monday night / Tuesday morning for me almost every week since the game launched. I'm work nights so it is quite noticeable to me. I don't complain, I just work extra hours / make Monday night grocery shopping night.



- Life is Life -

Indeed, OP. A better practice would be to have a maintenance that ends exactly when the reset happens. That way, the maintenance effectively ends the 'ARR week', and when the game is back on, fixed and ready to roll, you're free to play your char(s). That's the experience I got in other well managed MMO's, including free to play.

On a side related note, a weekly maintenance is a bit much for a game as recent as ARR. It was normal for MMO's a decade ago, but even those have managed to evolve to a weekly reboot (5 minutes off), if any, and a maintenance every 2-3 weeks. Nowadays I'd expect a maintenance every month or so, with the occasional reboot should that be required. Especially for a game that doesn't feature cutting-edge tech (ARR is made of basic instance servers, a zoned overworld, there's no phasing, no cross-realm features, no realm-wide balanced mechanics… It's all pretty basic tech in terms of end-user experience). That being said, Rube Goldberg machines… oh well you know.

Obviously it's to give you an actual reason to like Mondays. Mondays have gotten a really bad rep. Especially from that damn cat Garfield.

Another reason to hate Mondays.

Actually, it's good that they're doing this tonight. Supposedly, there's a fix due for some coil chests and the drops/rates.

...I can't seem to find the thread now. Must have been deleted or something... which wouldn't surprise me. The last time I saw it, it was not a very happy thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...20#post1558520

Found it. Was searching through the wrong guy's posts.

Has anyone sat down and figured out how long you need to complete a set of gear with current mythology throttle?

Yeah, I usually just accept that it's fate and play something else. It's not the end of the world.

But you know what it is? Lazy. There are so many HA technologies available to choose from that letting a service go completely offline for maintenance in 2013 (almost 2014!) is just pretty poor engineering.

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

You know SE... on Mondays like you know right when you reset the cap and Bahamut's Coil.

Many groups are eager to farm out their Mythology cap to get their cool new piece of gear... Or make their runs through Coil and open their boxes...

This is the 2nd week in a row that there has been maintenance on Monday night.

Now I don't suggest weekend maintenance at all but um... later in the week when people are already capped, or have finished up their coil routine for the week... Might be a better time.

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Because the maintenance is about fixing an issue with coil, and some people will be opting to wait until after the maintenance to run as a result. Better to do it earlier in the week than later.

http://i41.tinypic.com/315hpu8.png

I do Coil Tues, Primals for FC Wed, and Relic help nights Thurs, fri/sat/sun ?? sometimes have to leave town. So losing monday 2hrs after I get off work PST kinda sucks.

It's more that this is the 2nd week in a row PST gets hit monday, lastweek it was 8pm so that really sucked, glad it's at least 11pm now

dunno, maybe because bob geldof hate monaday

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

Has anyone sat down and figured out how long you need to complete a set of gear with current mythology throttle?

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8 Jobs

1 with 13 Gear Slots
7 with 12 Gear Slots

Weekly cap 300/300

Cheapest Myth purchase: Thiv Mist @ 300 Tomes (3 Req Relic +1, Holy Shield +1 300/Curtana +1 600)

2 Weeks per Feet/Hands/Head/Accessories - 3 weeks per Body/Legs/Weapon

For Myth Bodies/Legs: 6 weeks
For Relic +1 Weapons = 3 weeks
For Myth Feet/Hands/Head/Accessories: 12+/- weeks

21~23 weeks or roughly 5 months to full gear a single Job in Myth (anyone currently in full or near full myth are probably the people that got the myth tome cap resets in the first few weeks)

Totaling: 140ish Weeks or 2.8 years at the current rate to Gear in full Myth (on all Jobs).

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Originally Posted by Dhex

8 Jobs

1 with 13 Gear Slots
7 with 12 Gear Slots

Weekly cap 300/300

Cheapest Myth purchase: Thiv Mist @ 300 Tomes (3 Req Relic +1, Holy Shield +1 300/Curtana +1 600)

2 Weeks per Feet/Hands/Head/Accessories - 3 weeks per Body/Legs/Weapon

For Myth Bodies/Legs: 6 weeks
For Relic +1 Weapons = 3 weeks
For Myth Feet/Hands/Head/Accessories: 12+/- weeks

21~23 weeks or roughly 5 months to full gear a single Job in Myth (anyone currently in full or near full myth are probably the people that got the myth tome cap resets in the first few weeks)

Totaling: 140ish Weeks or 2.8 years at the current rate to Gear in full Myth (on all Jobs).

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There are 9 jobs, not 8, and accessories are shared so this isn't entirely accurate.

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Originally Posted by permbanned

There are 9 jobs, not 8, and accessories are shared so this isn't entirely accurate.

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3 weeks per Relic +1 that's -> 27 weeks

3+/- weeks per Body -> 27 weeks

3+/- weeks per Legs -> 27 weeks

2+/- weeks per Hands -> 18 week

2+/- weeks per Head -> 18 weeks

2+/- weeks per Feet -> 18 weeks

2+/- weeks per Accessory (5 sets casting/healing/slaying/fending/aiming with ring/wrist/ear/belt/neck) - or 2 weeks x 5 pieces x 5 sets or -> 50 weeks


That 180 weeks - I said 140 to be lenient - _ -

because get fked

thats why =\

lol

but hopefully they will be done for a while after this and everyone will get something good from t1 chests this week haha

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

You know SE... on Mondays like you know right when you reset the cap and Bahamut's Coil.

Many groups are eager to farm out their Mythology cap to get their cool new piece of gear... Or make their runs through Coil and open their boxes...

This is the 2nd week in a row that there has been maintenance on Monday night.

Now I don't suggest weekend maintenance at all but um... later in the week when people are already capped, or have finished up their coil routine for the week... Might be a better time.

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This is non-sensical, how can you justify having maintenance on the weekend when its prime time, or for that matter on any other day than mon and weds. I do my coil runs on friday, I do my AK runs on tuesday. Guess what I do on mondays? Nothing. My point is, it doesnt matter when you run maintenance because there will always be somebody sitting aroun dto complain about it, so just live with it and plan accordingly.

Just another manic maintenance . . .

These theads again. LOL

dear god never in my life have I seen so many people complain about maintenance. Wait... nevermind, I almost forgot about WoW

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Originally Posted by Jonny_Tapas

You know SE... on Mondays like you know right when you reset the cap and Bahamut's Coil.

Many groups are eager to farm out their Mythology cap to get their cool new piece of gear... Or make their runs through Coil and open their boxes...

This is the 2nd week in a row that there has been maintenance on Monday night.

Now I don't suggest weekend maintenance at all but um... later in the week when people are already capped, or have finished up their coil routine for the week... Might be a better time.

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Since those doing the content you're talking about are a minority of players (and a small one at that, going from SE's own figures) then I see no reason to consider their needs above the majority's.

Why not Friday?






Or





http://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoint

dear god never in my life have I seen so many people complain about maintenance. Wait... nevermind, I almost forgot about WoW

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I agree people tend to complain about maintenances. :rolleyes:

However, that being said…

…never have I seen so many maintenances for a post-2010 AAA MMO 3 months into release. :( There must be some serious database/server issues, a pile of bugs, and/or a very weak underlying design, for the game to require so many maintenances. It's just subpar to industry standards as we speak, and that's something seasoned MMO players know.

Bad track record (for SE) + touchy subject (for players) = huge uproar.

And to some degree, I agree with people asking for at least standard service quality.

How about it happens when it happens and you all suck it up and deal with it.

Whoever said the weekly maintenance should end with the cap reset on Monday morning is a genius...

You see things like this make sense.

Yay another "Stop doing maintence when IM playing the game" thread.

How exciting.

You know, a lot of these problems could have been mitigated if they added zone specific servers... and performed maintenance at times relevant to the server's zone. That's all I'm sayin', it would also really make recruitment for FC's much simpiliar.

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Originally Posted by Kasumuni

Why not Friday?






Or





http://i.imgur.com/c7NJRa2.gif

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I hope your clowning on the fact that they already do this. Friday morning is when they do the scheduled weekly maintenance (Friday....Really?) They just have it every other day too.

Unfortunately, im on the West Coast of the US, so the maintenance screws with me every time. Not saying they should change that for just the few timezones that are affected, but a rotating schedule of different times would be ideal, since it would screw with everyone equally instead of just screwing one group over and over.

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Originally Posted by xwxmeowxvvx

Unfortunately, im on the West Coast of the US, so the maintenance screws with me every time. Not saying they should change that for just the few timezones that are affected, but a rotating schedule of different times would be ideal, since it would screw with everyone equally instead of just screwing one group over and over.

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I live on the west coast as well and most maintenances don't affect me one bit. In fact I'm usually heading off to bed after they're due to happen. I'm pretty sure SE has some kind of tracking metric on when the most people are playing to make their decisions on when they schedule their maintenances. You (speaking of the minority in general) just happen to be the odd one out.