Hey Guyz so this if my first time making a Topic on here
But today I was in a speed run as healer, we did WP
Tank pulled all the mobs, we just killed the last Tonberry to open door to Boss
The blackmage sleeped all the Mobs, and we pulled the boss
After 15seconds the room is closed with an invisible wall and all the sleeped enemys returned to their position, this was done in 1 minute, so at 87min left we slayed the first boss down.... Thats for those people dont know what a speedrun is
Now the Bard saw this in our group and said this is an exploit and left dungeon..?
My question is this really an exploit/cheat? Or is it allowed to do so ?
Speed runs an Exploit??
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11-18-2013, 12:38 AMDarkjolieSpeed runs an Exploit??
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11-18-2013, 12:41 AMArchona
Developer already stated that it is NOT an exploit. Players are free to do this in game as they wish.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/109607-Wanderer-s-Palace-Discrimation?p=1557288#post1557288 -
11-18-2013, 12:46 AMDarkjolie
Good to know thanks
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11-18-2013, 03:19 AMEaven
He left? What an idiot. "THIS IS FASTER AND NOT FAIR, I'M OUT!"
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11-18-2013, 07:30 AMMieyCyruuuus
LOL@ "THIS IS TOO FAST I DONT WANT THIS"
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11-18-2013, 07:06 PMPots_Talos
But what about the 50gil per mob you are missing out on?!
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11-19-2013, 07:37 AMsaber_alterbecause i would rather be done with the dungeon in 12 minutes, and i get more gil in the long run for ignoring those 5-6 enemies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pots_Talos
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11-19-2013, 08:02 AMAsdamineYou get 30k gil from selling tomestones items after every run. Who in the giving f*ck would care about those 50 gil lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pots_Talos
Also, you get lots of grand company seals from the loots hand-in, especially when people always pass when they are doing speed runs.
Humans... I pity them... -
11-19-2013, 08:11 AMEbon_DrakePretty sure ALL of the people that were crying over a month ago about the game having too many gil sinks and not enough ways to introduce gil back into the economy are all giving many "f*cks" about those 50 gil. Those 50gil were added thanks to you the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asdamine
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11-19-2013, 08:14 AMNintenPyjak64They also said DD was not an exploit, yet got nerfed. Knowing SE's prior actions I'm expecting some form of change to be made at some point in the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by Archona
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11-19-2013, 08:21 AMAsdamineThose whiners are gonna whine lol. SE just throw them a bone, they are gonna come back. I made 300k today selling 12 potash just doing my normal myth cap runs, and that happens every week (oh, and I still got 3 more runs to do this week, so 90k more incoming). Talk about easy cash...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebon_Drake
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11-19-2013, 05:33 PMaray0002Not trueThe gill was always intended to drop from mobs. The reason they did not at first was because of the "Free to play a Month" clause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebon_Drake
RMT / GOLD Sellers would have had really easy time earning gil to sell.
When subscriptions when live... the RMT's were now paying SE to stay in game.
So money they earn in gil is going right back to SE in monthly fee's. -
11-19-2013, 08:45 PMSygmaelleExcept that its not nerfed, its bugged :p Devs told so hahaQuote:
hey also said DD was not an exploit, yet got nerfed.
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11-19-2013, 10:37 PMDonjo
I'm honestly not sure that this will get nerfed at all. The crux of WP Speedruns is taking extreme risks in the name of doing it more quickly, not exploiting bugs and oddities in the game itself or avoiding half of the monsters in the dungeon. Sure, the structure of the dungeon probably never intended for us to aggro every enemy before the dungeon's first boss at once, but more power to you if you can actually survive. Even the boss barrier trick is a calculated risk: The boss fight can get dicey if mobs actually enter the arena with us, and the Tank is fending off damage from more than just the boss for that first 15 seconds.
That being said, I do think it's odd for monsters to just spontaneously ignore the party when a barrier pops up in front of them. I think it would be hilarious if they still tried to chase the party and immediately swooped in for the kill once the boss is dead :) -
11-20-2013, 12:33 AMWellFooledWhy make fun of someone for acting on their conscience? It makes sense that he might consider it an exploit, since similar tactics have been removed by SE in the past. Takes a lot of courage to explain your feelings to a group of people who obviously don't agree -and- take a sacrifice in time by leaving. Sounds like he cares about honesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaven
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11-20-2013, 01:00 AMSterobwhat does conscience have anything to do here? Why does choosing whether to kill some certain mobs involve conscience? Cant the player make a choose how do they fight? Does it mean it is an exploit if someone use water to fight fire?Quote:
Originally Posted by WellFooled
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11-20-2013, 01:51 AMWellFooledThe player can make a choice on how they want to do the fight, the guy who left choose not to do the dungeon like the rest of the group. His conscience was why he made the choice and now he's getting mocked because of trying to be honest. Whether the method used was an exploit or not doesn't matter, he didn't feel right doing it. Why should we insult someone because of this? :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Sterob
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11-20-2013, 03:08 AMPetiteMalFleur
Some people just don't like speed runs. It's so easy to find a group to do them with why join DF and expect one?