I'm not sure if the singers are simply chanting tones or not during Ultima's theme, but having listened to the song plenty of times I'm inclined to believe that they're saying something. There's a problem, however: I can't tell what they're saying, let alone what language it's in (though since this is FF and a final boss theme, let's be honest, it's probably Latin :p). So does anyone have an inkling as to what they're saying? Or have they already been deciphered?
On the same subject, does anyone have any definitive lyrics for Titan's theme? I've brought this up in General Discussion before--as did someone else--but both of our topics died pretty quickly. So I figured asking here is my next best bet, as something like song lyrics could kinda-sorta-tangentially be related to lore, haha. I'll link the old thread below, as it has a few variations and can act as a sort of template.
Old Titan thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Theme-Lyrics?
These are the most recent lyrics I've managed to come up with, having looked at others' interpretations and drawing my own conclusions, but there's are probably just as accurate (if not more so) than what I've got here:
Who goes there, who goes there, who goes there? Titan! x8
Titan!
Titaaaaan!
Let's hear it, everyone!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! IT'S TITAN
Get out of the way!x7 (he's shouting stuff in the background I can't make out)
(Something) (it'll take it's toll? take your toe? tip-to-toe? trap your soul?)
With a heart of rock, and a stare that's cold
Cold are the hands that grasp at your soul
Where the graves are dug in the goddamned cold.
Tempered in the rooms of the mountain's core
With the rage reflecting (something something)
(too many syllables before) in the blazing sun.
Round them up for ANNIHILATION!
Get out of the way!x7 (more shouting)
*guitar solo*
Into the dark of an endless fate
With the corpse of the land on a filthy spike.
Spite to (lord?) that's stood before you (illegible)
(something) just for fools.
Kneel to the tremors, your lord commands!
There's no salvation for the sons of man.
The skies will tremble and the earth will quake,
From the summoning walls no one escapes!
Get out of the way!x7 (more shouting)
Who goes there, who goes there, who goes there? Titan! x8
Titan!
Titaaaaan!
Let's hear it, everyone!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! IT'S TITAN
Get out of the way!x7 (more shouting)
aaaaaaAAAAA T-T-T-Titan!
(Something) (it'll take it's toll? take your toe? tip-to-toe? trap your soul?)
With a heart of rock, and a stare that's cold
C-C-Cold are the hands that grasp at your soul
Where the graves are dug in the goddamn cold.
Tempered in the rooms of the mountain's core
With the rage reflecting (something something)
(too many syllablues before) in the blazing sun.
Round them up for ANNIHILATION!
Get out of the way!x7 (more shouting)
Who goes there, who goes there, who goes there? Titan!x10
aaaaaaAAAAA T-T-T-Titan!
*end of loop*
Ultima's and Titan's song lyrics
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11-17-2013, 02:29 PMMysteltainBoss Song Lyrics
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11-18-2013, 03:35 AMRocl
There's also vocals in the Binding Coil of Bahamut boss theme. I can't make out anything whatsoever, I'm super curious about that as well.
(Also your titan lyrics are about as far as I ever got) -
11-18-2013, 12:09 PMVisRalisThat was awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysteltain
Titan HM will never be the same again now. -
11-18-2013, 01:44 PMcotti
My headcanon will always dictate that the starting background vocals in Titan's theme is, due to the timing going perfectly just as unprepared people start dying like crazy in the beginning of post-heart phase, a bunch of stereotyped BRs going "HUEHUEHUE, HUEHUEHUE, HUEHUEHUE, HUEHUEHUE".
It fits the situation so much. -
01-05-2014, 12:56 AMValerathon
Yes, I'd really like to know what the Ultima Arma words are (it'd be great if it were a continuation on the theme of the speech the Legatus makes to your group on the elevator ride down - delightfully anti-democratic reactionary catnip that was! Mee-ow!). Ditto the words that haunt the climax of the Praetorium theme.
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01-05-2014, 02:30 AMMyranda
Don't know about lyrics in Ultima or Coil, but they have released the lyrics to Titan, straight from Soken himself on the dev blog:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/000567.html -
01-07-2014, 12:31 PMVisRalisQuote:
Originally Posted by Myranda
^This xD made my day.Quote:
Since I've stayed so quiet, let's just say that there have been a lot of fan, uh, "interpretations" of the lyrics...
"I don't wanna die, I don't wanna die"
"Omg landslide, omg landslide"
"YOSSSHHIIIDDDAAAAA"
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01-07-2014, 12:31 PMValerathon
Thanks for the link, Myranda. I'm sure a few people will come here looking for it! I saw it earlier, and was hopeful that Soken would eventually get around to releasing the lyrics for the other scores, as well. Not sure why he hasn't. Fingers crossed!
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01-08-2014, 12:34 AMMysteltain
I was so excited when that was first posted, haha! All of us who were trying to figure out the lyrics got pretty close, it seems, but I'unno how we were supposed to come up with some of those lines. But now that that's out of the way, we just need the Ultima lyrics, if there are any.
Your move Soken :cool: -
01-08-2014, 12:59 AMAnonymoose
Whenever I see threads like these, the only thing I can think about is when are we getting the next soundtrack?
I rarely buy gaming soundtracks because they often just cherrypick a few tracks that they think everyone wants to hear and throw them on a disc, but Before Meteor was a shining example of how it should be done (every song in as high quality as it could be delivered) and I'm excited to see what comes next. Maybe we'll get to learn all these lyrics as part of the BluRay background display after there's enough material to justify a Patch 2.00 through Patch Whatever disc.
Honestly, I'm a little worried they won't release one of that quality again, which would be a shame considering Soken's contributions are so, so good. -
01-08-2014, 11:08 PMTeakwood
I think I like the OP's version of the Titan lyrics better. I'm giggling -pretty- hard right now.
Seconding the praying-to-the-Twelve-for-more-soundtracks, especially as I didn't have the money to buy Before Meteor when it was released. :( I loved 1.xx's music and I love ARR's music and am really looking forward to the chance to actually snag a soundtrack. :) -
01-09-2014, 04:26 AMPArcher
I'm trying to find the lyrics to King Moogle's fight...I'm pretty sure they were posted somewhere, but can't remember where exactly
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01-09-2014, 05:08 AMMysteltain
Before all of the OST was removed, there were quite a few videos up with the Good King's theme. Still, I found a good video of the fight against him where the music could be clearly heard, so this should be correct:
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Good King Moggle Mog XII Theme
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
Lord of all the land! (Kupo!)
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
Rules with iron hand!
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
Leads the brave and true!
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
Now come along and meet his trusty crew!
Kupo!
Kupta Kapa will clip your tuft,
Split your hairs, and ruffle your fluff!
Kupdi Koop will throw you for a loop,
Brave a wall of whiskers to find his troop!
Kupli Kipp is sly yet sweet,
He'll tickle your nose then tickle your feet.
Jolly Kogi's eye for fun is clear,
He'll put an arrow straight in your rear!
*Laughter*
Pukla Puki plays with fire,
Poms a-burning on her pyre!
Puski Piko likes her buddies big,
She'll sing a little song and dance a little jig!
Pukna Pako shivers and shakes,
She'll stick you in the gut, and give you bellyaches!
And who's behind them standing tall?
Why the biggest moogle of them all!
(Who? Who? Who?)
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
Kind and Noble Lord! (Hear, hear!)
Now nod your noggle nog, and mind your gob!
Or he'll put you to the sword!
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
His judgment you will dread!
Good King Moggle Mog, Good King Mog!
What do you decree?
What do you decree?
What do you decree!?
Off with their heads!
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01-09-2014, 05:34 AMViridianaTwo small corrections, per the soundtrack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysteltain
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01-09-2014, 06:29 AMOrophinHe's pretty active on his Twitter. I'd make a mention of it and eventually Fernehawles might get them translated, if there's indeed actual lyrics and not random chanting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysteltain
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02-13-2014, 02:49 AMMysteltain
*Casts Raise on thread*
So, I've been running Ultima HM a lot the last couple days, and I swear that I hear some similar lines from the White Raven's theme. Does anyone happen to have the Latin lyrics on hand? -
02-13-2014, 05:37 AMEnkidoh
*Digs out Before Meteor and looks through the inlay booklet*
Interesting how Ferne is the one who wrote the lyrics - he really is multi-talented. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Before Meteor - Final Fantasy XIV Original Soundtrack Inlay Booklet
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04-05-2014, 08:38 AMValerathon
Has anyone gotten anymore information on this? Are the lyrics included in the OST that shipped recently? Id' love to know what the words are in the Ultima and Praetorium songs!
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04-06-2014, 02:14 AMMysteltain
I tried coming up with the Ultima lyrics, but soon realized that not knowing Latin means that anything I write down is probably nowhere close to the actual spelling of the words. But, I guess I can give it a shot, assuming they're not in the new OST. And if they are, well, I'll just delete all this and spare myself the embarrassment :p
Anyway, I'll update this post as I come up with the lyrics as I hear them, and if anyone knows Latin then they can try to decipher my decipherings, haha! Also, I'm really interested in coming up with the Leviathan lyrics, so that oughta be fun =P
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Ultima Lyrics (ver.4)
Nos sempi vi resto sum tie sto
Regemitus sen sabunt tie sto
Tren vo une tren vi mire quo vi
Sensa tie quo somni regnabunt sempit
Sensa...
Sempit...
Noctem...
Regnum...
Resto!
-more later-
I kinda feel like I'm near the mark, as a lot of the lyrics seem to deal with "power" and "ruling". Given Gaius' idea that he's fit to rule Eorzea, it sounds quite fitting for the fight.Quote:
Ultima Lyrics translation (ver.4)
We will always stand firm, as it is the duty of the strong.
Cast yourselves before Us and grovel anew, as it is your duty.
We are the origin. The origin of power. Marvel at Our might!
Our ideals--Our eternal reign--begins tonight!
Our ideals...
Are eternal...
This night...
My rule...
Shall prevail!
-more later-
Unfortunately, during the first verse, the male and female singers seem to be singing two different sets of lyrics at times, and they will occasionally share words, making it pretty hard to tell which words go with which at points. Also, as I said I know nothing about Latin, and while using Google Translate for individual words is kind of a double-edged sword, it at least lets me know (generally) when I'm completely off-base with a word. Regardless, I spent about two hours on just this first section, so I'll finish up the rest later, haha. The chorus will be by far the hardest because the music is much louder in that section. -
04-08-2014, 08:57 AMMysteltain
Sorry for the double post, but I figured it'd be worth the posting of an interpretation of the Leviathan lyrics. Luckily, the words aren't as difficult to make out as Garuda's (and in English to boot, unlike something else's theme :p), although that doesn't mean some sections aren't ridiculously difficult to make out over the guitar. Not that I'm complaining--the guitar is pretty sick, haha! The last verse is probably my favorite part of the lyrics, echoing the words of the Maelstrom but with a decidedly darker turn.
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Leviathan Lyrics (ver.2)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Save us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Kill them!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Bless us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Trust us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Send us!)
Leviathan! (Help us!)
Raging! Can ???.
Forsaken! She rams your hulls.
My blood red! Without a surface they can't live.
My blood flows! My ???
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Save us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Bless us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Trust us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Help us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Hold us!)
Leviathan! Leviathan! (Send us!)
Leviathan! (Help us!)
???! Or maybe that is all there is.
Mistaken! Or else I'm dead.
My blood is red! Without a surface they can't live.
My fury! My ???
Stormy seas at home; Leviathan! Leviathan!
Smashing against our hull; Leviathan!
Sea covers all; Leviathan! Leviathan!
To swallow up the world! Leviathan!
x2
Leviathan!!
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04-12-2014, 07:53 AMMysteltain
I normally wouldn't triple post, especially with posts so close together, but this is a pretty good update. I believe I've finally cracked the first verse of the Ultima lyrics, insofar as the male singer's lyrics; I'm convinced the female choir is singing a slightly different set of lyrics. While I can't guarantee it's 100% accurate, I feel that it's as close as I'm going to get right now. Also, to add a bit more to this update, I've also included a rather rough translation of the lyrics for the first verse, although I was fairly liberal in doing so--more prose, less lyrical. They definitely fit Gaius and his claims to be the one fit to rule Eorzea.
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04-12-2014, 08:41 AMDotsusama
I was going to suggest using something like Audacity or another audio mixer to try and isolate the vocals, but the chorus and the effects make it almost impossible for me to get close to them without warbling that just makes it harder to hear what's being said, or artifacts that distort the words. I was really hoping for official lyrics to come with the soundtrack honestly!
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04-12-2014, 11:37 AMMysteltain
I've never thought of using that actually, but yeah, there really is just too much else going on in the song, especially with two layers of vocals at most times plus the instruments blaring after the intro.
And not to go off on a tangent, but the more I go over the first verse and looking at and listening to the words, I start to piece together new ones that are, well, actual Latin, haha! I'm finding it pretty fun to try and come up with all of the proper words, then fiddle around with Google Translate to find an actual word, then find a way to translate the line so it both retains its meaning, as well as makes sense in context. And all this without knowing a lick of Latin grammar! If anyone wants to know what's going through my head while I do this, well, here's a bit of an example for one line of the song...
In the second line, I had until recently:
Which I can translate to:Quote:
"Req vi mitu sen sabunt tie sta"
The problem with that is 'Req' didn't translate to anything, and the closest thing to 'mitu' was 'screams' (which is 'clamat' in Latin, so that wouldn't work). However, Google also said that 'mitu' could also be a part of 'et gemitu interfectorum', which Google said meant "screams of" (it actually means "the groans of the slain" when I looked up the meaning of 'interfectorum'. Yes, double-checking Google Translate has been essential). So I honed in on 'gemitu' and it turns out that 'gemitus' means 'groan', which also makes a lot more sense grammatically. So, my current interpretation is:Quote:
"Scream our ideals with strength, stand and throw yourselves before us, as it is your duty."
Which means literally:Quote:
"Regemitus sen sabunt tie sto"
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, so I took a more liberal approach and came up with:Quote:
"Renew groans of the ideas. Duty is stand, and throw themselves."
'Sto' means 'Stand', but to try and slap that somewhere in the middle seems awkward, as well as at the end, although I suppose Gaius ordering the adventurers to stand up after each line could come off as him challenging them. I could very well rewrite it as "Stand, and cast yourselves..." but that may come off as too wordy, and if they're throwing themselves before him, they're already standing, haha.Quote:
"Cast yourselves before Us, and grovel anew, as it is your duty."
I chose 'grovel' instead of 'groan', since it carries more of an implication that those who are grovelling must adhere to the rules of the authority figure. Therefore, adding in 'ideals' or even 'groan' felt extraneous. It's also much more vivid this way, I feel, the image of the people of Eorzea falling to their knees and bowing before Gaius.
As for the We, Our, and Us I use throughout, that's just some rather liberal use of the Royal-"We" on my part, haha! It gives the translation an air of authority and arrogance to it all, since I'm going under the assumption that the song is sung from Gaius' persepctive, much in the same way Nael's theme was sung from the perspective of his soldiers. -
04-12-2014, 12:07 PMA_Magical_Unicorn_RiderBecause the word you're looking for is RECIT, not req vi. Just thought I'd put in my observation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysteltain
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05-04-2014, 12:37 AMValerathon
I wonder if it would be helpful to people curious about the currently missing lyrics if there were a separate thread for Ultima (and maybe Praetorium) lyrics. We have Titan, so let this thread sink, and maybe a new thread can lift your amazing contributions from here, Mysteltain, and continue it there. I defer to you, though, Mysteltain.
I think the people speculating on Archons would be really interested if it turns out that those voices in Ultima's song are Archons (not Garleans!) celebrating the coming rule by Zodiark ... -
05-04-2014, 05:40 AMMysteltain
I've been thinking of doing that--making a compilation thread of ALL the songs with lyrics, both known and unknown, and having it be both discussion and interpretation. I think I will do that, since this thread has over all been going a bit slow. Plus, as you said, the topic title isn't particularly relevant anymore.
EDIT: The new topic has been posted, as such, I don't think we'll need to keep this one around anymore. I've copied over the Latin lyrics to Ultima's theme as I need to redo the translation. Leviathan's I'll post later, as there's a pretty good discussion of them occurring on another thread.