Summoners abusing pet exploit on bosses

Hey SE people are abusing the pet exploit ..... everytime u resummon the pet in battle the cds reset ... just letting you know

snitches get stitches

isnt summoning pet take like 5 sec. what CD is reset btw?

You mean the pet's personal abilities, or the summoner's abilities like: Rouse, Spur, and Enkindle?

Need to be more specific if you are reporting a bug. And post in the right forum for that matter.

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Originally Posted by RowanLauron

You mean the pet's personal abilities, or the summoner's abilities like: Rouse, Spur, and Enkindle?

Need to be more specific if you are reporting a bug. And post in the right forum for that matter.

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Pets I guess just tried it, what a loss of dps.

Sooo, like ekindle swifcast ekindle?

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Originally Posted by Laiyenu

what a loss of dps.

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Best exploit ever.

I like how people label anything unconventional or out of the ordinary as an "exploit."

Next thing you're gonna tell me that switching classes in one of the three main cities to bypass the cooldown reset is also considered an "exploit."

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Originally Posted by Skeezix

Best exploit ever.

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(Takes 10 minutes trying to get on the tree before AK's first boss so we can ignore the adds)

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Originally Posted by Vantwan

I like how people label anything unconventional or out of the ordinary as an "exploit."

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"Unintended game mechanic" is probably how SE would label it. Exploiting in my mind is people using underground mining bots, teleport hacks, things of that nature.

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

snitches get stitches

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And if we catch you cheatin' you'll catch a beatin'?

hmm. Not sure what his talking about, but I have used enkindle before my pet died and resummoned it and enkindle cooldown didn't reset.

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Originally Posted by HamHam

hmm. Not sure what his talking about, but I have used enkindle before my pet died and resummoned it and enkindle cooldown didn't reset.

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Yeah, I've no idea either. Maybe a Summoner burned him, and now he's trying to get us burned?

....then wouldn't casting a different primal mid-battle also be considered an exploit? I see no issue with re-summoning to gain a CD advantage.

Do it enough and it will absolutely murder your MP.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

"Unintended game mechanic" is probably how SE would label it. Exploiting in my mind is people using underground mining bots, teleport hacks, things of that nature.

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Well an exploit by definition is using an "unintended game mechanic" that's not reported and is abused by players to progress themselves. Doesn't have to be a hack. The Demon Wall skip was an exploit. People found out about it and abused the shit out of it. Another example below.

Using WoW as an example: back when Ice Crown was in full swing (Final raid in the Wrath expansion) people were able to use cheap goblin bombs to easily kill the last boss. They did not report it and continued to abuse it. Hence it was labeled an exploit. They were all banned for it and was fixed in a later hotfix.

it's more along the lines of dotting something up then having garuda extend it then swiftcasting gardua again to extend it again so you have dots with timers so long that garuda will actually extend them again before they wear off

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Originally Posted by Ugabooga

Hey SE people are abusing the pet exploit ..... everytime u resummon the pet in battle the cds reset ... just letting you know

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how is this even an exploit? it takes over 500 MP to resummon. It's hardly worth it just to reset the cooldown on the one ability on each summon that takes more than like 10 seconds to cool down.

I realize that you can get more duration out of contagion with this, but it will wipe your mp out just as fast as casting the dots again.

also resummon take a while to cast, that a huge chunk of dps you losing out

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Originally Posted by Nihility

it's more along the lines of dotting something up then having garuda extend it then swiftcasting gardua again to extend it again so you have dots with timers so long that garuda will actually extend them again before they wear off

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Even if that were true, I don't think it would be worth the effort/mp loss. Sure we have aetherflow, but that has a 1 minute CD that can't be exploited to make it even worth it.

I'd rather just play it the way it's intended. I hate taking shortcuts like that in a MMO. I feel dirty doing it.

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Originally Posted by RowanLauron

Even if that were true, I don't think it would be worth the effort/mp loss. Sure we have aetherflow, but that has a 1 minute CD that can't be exploited to make it even worth it.

I'd rather just play it the way it's intended. I hate taking shortcuts like that in a MMO. I feel dirty doing it.

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it would definitely be worth the effort and mp loss if it's true, you are only missing out 2 ruins when casting a pet which will basically do a full rotation of a dot (which is more damage than 2 measly ruins), AND empowered too with raging strikes and intellect potion.

but it is not true, I just tested it, recasting garuda doesn't reset the contagion cd.

Summoners also abusing the pet HP exploit! if your pet is about to die and you resummon them, THE NEW PET IS SUMMONED WITH FULL HP!!!!!one

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Originally Posted by Huginn

Summoners also abusing the pet HP exploit! if your pet is about to die and you resummon them, THE NEW PET IS SUMMONED WITH FULL HP!!!!!one

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cmon dude, by your reasoning, if I as a pld Rage of Halone a mob before it turns an attacks another player im exploiting too... If the pet fully died, you would still have to resummon it an it would still be full hp, what does it matter if u do it stlightly before the pet dies? Hey you know what else, Sch's an Whm's start casting medica an succor before Titan starts doing stomps, so they are exploiting too? It's called being preprared not cheating.

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Originally Posted by glim

it would definitely be worth the effort and mp loss if it's true, you are only missing out 2 ruins when casting a pet which will basically do a full rotation of a dot (which is more damage than 2 measly ruins), AND empowered too with raging strikes and intellect potion.

but it is not true, I just tested it, recasting garuda doesn't reset the contagion cd.

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True story. I forget that ruin is kinda.....sub par.

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Originally Posted by glim

it would definitely be worth the effort and mp loss if it's true, you are only missing out 2 ruins when casting a pet which will basically do a full rotation of a dot (which is more damage than 2 measly ruins), AND empowered too with raging strikes and intellect potion.

but it is not true, I just tested it, recasting garuda doesn't reset the contagion cd.

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hoaxes ftl ;p

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

cmon dude, by your reasoning, if I as a pld Rage of Halone a mob before it turns an attacks another player im exploiting too... If the pet fully died, you would still have to resummon it an it would still be full hp, what does it matter if u do it stlightly before the pet dies? Hey you know what else, Sch's an Whm's start casting medica an succor before Titan starts doing stomps, so they are exploiting too? It's called being preprared not cheating.

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cmon man, what he wrote is obviously sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by glim

it would definitely be worth the effort and mp loss if it's true, you are only missing out 2 ruins when casting a pet which will basically do a full rotation of a dot (which is more damage than 2 measly ruins), AND empowered too with raging strikes and intellect potion.

but it is not true, I just tested it, recasting garuda doesn't reset the contagion cd.

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Just to make things clear, it won't work if you resummon the same pet you were using. So Garuda -> Garuda will do nothing but Garuda -> Ifrit -> Garuda will reset her cooldowns. It's extremely mana and time inefficient and I don't see why a player would use it other than for the novelty of it.

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Originally Posted by Addicted

Just to make things clear, it won't work if you resummon the same pet you were using. So Garuda -> Garuda will do nothing but Garuda -> Ifrit -> Garuda will reset her cooldowns. It's extremely mana and time inefficient and I don't see why a player would use it other than for the novelty of it.

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Just tried that with Titan and still can't reproduce this thing. If it's even an actual thing.

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Originally Posted by Esmian

Just tried that with Titan and still can't reproduce this thing. If it's even an actual thing.

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This should clear any doubts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27sO79UXPqs

Looking at the video again, it might actually work with the same pet twice in a row. The player never did it so I assumed it wouldn't work but who knows.

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Originally Posted by Addicted

Just to make things clear, it won't work if you resummon the same pet you were using. So Garuda -> Garuda will do nothing but Garuda -> Ifrit -> Garuda will reset her cooldowns. It's extremely mana and time inefficient and I don't see why a player would use it other than for the novelty of it.

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I've tried, garuda -> contagion -> summon ifrit -> summon garuda, contagion still cd.

I've tried garuda -> contagion -> summon ifrit -> use ifrit spells -> summon garuda, contagion still cd.

I don't get what the video is trying to point out either.

EDIT: it works, it works if pet is on sic. instead of obey.

ADD: yeah, I'm thinking it's not worth it either, because of the double pet mechanic, maybe it would be worth it if it doesn't require pet switching, because you have to wait for the other pet to cast all it's cds before re-summoning garuda, -_- this can't even keep my bio up because of all the sic. waiting.