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05-25-2011, 06:44 PM
TonyMontana

SE making NEW MMO

"Square Enix is readying a new large scale Massively Multiplayer Online title to be announced some time this fiscal year. CEO Yoichi Wada made brief mention of this new game during a May 13 earnings briefing. A full transcript of the briefing was posted today at the company's IR page.

According to Wada, Square Enix hopes aims to operate two to three large scale MMO titles simultaneously, a target it feels will allow it to have stable cash flow. The company is developing one more title in addition to Final Fantasy XIV, and Wada hopes to announce the game during the fiscal year.

Wada also made note of the problems faced by FFXIV, saying the game will take a bit more time, but they're at the point where they can see the target."

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/25/square_enix_mmo/
05-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Meridian

Well they're already running FFXI, FFXIV and Fantasy Earth Zero, no reason for them not to try another one I guess....
05-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Duelle

Two things spring to mind. One being that it could be one of those "free" MMOs I see so often advertised on japanese gaming sites (not to mntion niconico douga). The other is more along the lines of "way to fail at keeping an already agitated fanbase under control". The doomcryers are only gonna get louder now. =/

Though at this point I'm gonna just sit back and watch the show. FFXIV isn't going to die to me unless they screw up with hybrids like I've been dreading (basically the second coming of cure/haste/refresh bot Red Mage) or the new MMO turns out to be World of Chrono Trigger.
05-25-2011, 06:52 PM
Colino

I doubt its a large scale game. It could really be anything from a mobile game to some facebook app (they've been doing those lately as well).
05-25-2011, 06:53 PM
Yellow

D: WHHAATT??
05-25-2011, 06:53 PM
AshelyRiot

Quite interesting that they have plans to release another MMO. I wonder what kind of MMO and what's it's about
05-25-2011, 06:54 PM
Rentahamster

lol, take the dev team from that game and put them to work on this one. Unless their their third MMO is rock solid, both it and FF14 are gonna be the next Spirits Within.
05-25-2011, 06:56 PM
Zacko

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Originally Posted by Meridian

Well they're already running FFXI, FFXIV and Fantasy Earth Zero, no reason for them not to try another one I guess....

Didn't FEZ shut down tho? At least in USA
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/02...on-march-24th/
JP version still works?
05-25-2011, 06:59 PM
Meridian

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Originally Posted by Zacko

Didn't FEZ shut down tho? At least in USA
http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/02...on-march-24th/
JP version still works?

Yup, still running in Japan...
05-25-2011, 07:08 PM
Seif

Isn't Dofus the SRPGMMO being Published by SE? You can't find much info on it on the game's website but it was all over Gamasutra a long time ago.

http://release.square-enix.com/na/2010/09/09_01.html
05-25-2011, 07:12 PM
Xandre

Sometimes I think they should focus on one project at a time, but if they are confident and have the resources, then good for them.
05-25-2011, 07:42 PM
Cxplorer

interesting....
05-25-2011, 07:44 PM
Cairdeas

Full Metal Alchemist. Do Want.
05-25-2011, 07:56 PM
ShadowCadja

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Full Metal Alchemist. Do Want.

I think I would quit FFXIV if they made a good FMA MMO...
05-25-2011, 08:07 PM
Eldaena

I think they may be spreading themselves too thin. We've been getting less quality products, and a lot of them...
05-25-2011, 08:09 PM
Cairdeas

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

I think they may be spreading themselves too thin. We've been getting less quality products, and a lot of them...

SE is a developer and a Publisher, They have tons of outside houses that work for them too like Crystal Dynamics and IO.

They are not spreading themselves too thin if they task a inactive group or a group that had one of its recent projects (gunloco) shut down do to quality control.
05-25-2011, 08:11 PM
Cxplorer

If I can solo in the new MMO,bye bye FFXIV?? I have to wait and see the summer patch. If I can still solo in FFXIV, I wills tay. If not,I'll check out their new MMO. :P
05-25-2011, 08:16 PM
Eldaena

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Originally Posted by Cxplorer

If I can solo in the new MMO,bye bye FFXIV?? I have to wait and see the summer patch. If I can still solo in FFXIV, I wills tay. If not,I'll check out their new MMO. :P

Why do you want to play MMOs if you just want to play solo?
05-25-2011, 08:18 PM
Cxplorer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldaena

Why do you want to play MMOs if you just want to play solo?

Because of monthly updates
05-25-2011, 08:26 PM
Eldaena

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cairdeas

SE is a developer and a Publisher, They have tons of outside houses that work for them too like Crystal Dynamics and IO.

They are not spreading themselves too thin if they task a inactive group or a group that had one of its recent projects (gunloco) shut down do to quality control.

I just mean in general when we reminisce about how good games 'were' in comparison to how they 'are' now it would seem there are several more projects going on and being released then in the past, but not all of them comparable in quality or completion. I know there are several variables like several teams throughout Square Enix and being a publisher of other developers, but overall...some of the things I've been seeing I can't say I fully approve of.

For example, Square has there hand in so many things, even making models of Halo merchandise. Doesn't that seem so odd? They're dabbling in so much...but what has come out in the past 5ish years that really touched us like in the past? That felt relatively complete, compelling, and overall something we would add to our "favorite games" list. More often than not...games released in those past 5 years or so are talked about only to represent the 'bad' of them, and not about anything positive, but perhaps graphics?

I wouldn't mind people proving me wrong on these thoughts. I want to believe SE is as good as they have always been. I mean, I'm still here playing this game because I'm trying to hold out hope for it. But..as evidence feels like it's piling up before me, I'm starting to wonder...
05-25-2011, 08:46 PM
Dragonheart

i hope they're wrong..
05-25-2011, 09:04 PM
Cairdeas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldaena

I just mean in general when we reminisce about how good games 'were' in comparison to how they 'are' now it would seem there are several more projects going on and being released then in the past, but not all of them comparable in quality or completion. I know there are several variables like several teams throughout Square Enix and being a publisher of other developers, but overall...some of the things I've been seeing I can't say I fully approve of.

For example, Square has there hand in so many things, even making models of Halo merchandise. Doesn't that seem so odd? They're dabbling in so much...but what has come out in the past 5ish years that really touched us like in the past? That felt relatively complete, compelling, and overall something we would add to our "favorite games" list. More often than not...games released in those past 5 years or so are talked about only to represent the 'bad' of them, and not about anything positive, but perhaps graphics?

I wouldn't mind people proving me wrong on these thoughts. I want to believe SE is as good as they have always been. I mean, I'm still here playing this game because I'm trying to hold out hope for it. But..as evidence feels like it's piling up before me, I'm starting to wonder...

Personally. Nier which released last year. Is my favorite video game of all time.
05-25-2011, 09:29 PM
Eldaena

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Personally. Nier which released last year. Is my favorite video game of all time.

I haven't played that one as of yet, but that was the only other game I had thought about playing. =p
05-25-2011, 09:32 PM
Cairdeas

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

I haven't played that one as of yet, but that was the only other game I had thought about playing. =p

The music alone is worth it.

Going back to SE and MMO's. The team working on this third MMO is not the same team that working on XI or XIV.
05-25-2011, 09:36 PM
Eldaena

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

Going back to SE and MMO's. The team working on this third MMO is not the same team that working on XI or XIV.

Well, right. But that doesn't say they don't have too much on their plates. =p I just hope for the sake of that MMO that they don't let it out to the public til it's actually ready. SE has their name on it and if it turns out anything even remotely like FFXIV's launch, it is just going to plummet their credibility that much further down.
05-25-2011, 10:10 PM
Tonka

It'd be so nice if they made an MMO that is PC only. And with a staff that has MMO experience. It'd also be great if it'd be a bit more modern or futuristic. I'm pretty much done with variations on medieval settings.
05-25-2011, 10:14 PM
Evangelus

maybe a full pvp mmorpg style?
for pvp fan

(i'm not a pvp player)
05-25-2011, 10:15 PM
Cairdeas

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Originally Posted by Evangelus

maybe a full pvp mmorpg style?
for pvp fan

(i'm not a pvp player)

FEZ was 100% PVP I don't even remember seeing monsters other then player controlled ones in game.
05-25-2011, 10:16 PM
Cairdeas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonka

It'd be so nice if they made an MMO that is PC only. And with a staff that has MMO experience. It'd also be great if it'd be a bit more modern or futuristic. I'm pretty much done with variations on medieval settings.

>.> Like Spirits Within kinda? that would be a cool setting. They could just drop the Final Fantasy part and just call it "Spirits Within"
05-25-2011, 10:18 PM
Malakhim

I'm still looking for my shit.
05-25-2011, 10:19 PM
Tonka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cairdeas

>.> Like Spirits Within kinda? that would be a cool setting. They could just drop the Final Fantasy part and just call it "Spirits Within"

That'd probably be cool. I like the settings of XIII and VII and X and what not. Something a little more Final Fantasy-ish would be nice.
05-25-2011, 10:23 PM
Cairdeas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonka

That'd probably be cool. I like the settings of XIII and VII and X and what not. Something a little more Final Fantasy-ish would be nice.

Yeah that would be cool. Though to be honest. I'm kinda craving a decent mature rated MMO in a pre-medival era where people wore the skins of what they killed, not platemail.

Age of Conan was supposed to do that but their strict class system urks me. Especially because the one Class choice I'd want to play is so unbalanced its un playable. (Guardian / Tempest.)
05-25-2011, 10:49 PM
Blitz0309

Seems sort of silly so say they are going to make another MMO with this one failing so badly...

Oh well, as long as the XI servers stay up i'll be happy.
05-25-2011, 11:01 PM
Cairdeas

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Originally Posted by Blitz0309

Seems sort of silly so say they are going to make another MMO with this one failing so badly...

Oh well, as long as the XI servers stay up i'll be happy.

Just like NC Soft and SoE hosting more then 2 at a time?
05-25-2011, 11:01 PM
Elexia

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Originally Posted by Meridian

Well they're already running FFXI, FFXIV and Fantasy Earth Zero, no reason for them not to try another one I guess....

FEZ is no longer theirs. XI, XIV and FMO were SE's MMOs, FE was sold iirc.
05-25-2011, 11:02 PM
Eruantien

I dont understand why people talk about SE being stretched, you dont get too many people complain about EA being too stretched. SE after all is getting to the same size as EA.

I would assume though that this is probably going to be by one of the eidos teams.
05-25-2011, 11:05 PM
Elexia

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

I dont understand why people talk about SE being stretched, you dont get too many people complain about EA being too stretched. SE after all is getting to the same size as EA.

I would assume though that this is probably going to be by one of the eidos teams.

When it comes to Square, people are beyond cynical and negative even though SE runs pretty much the same as any large company with multiple divisions and development teams. Most companies only can focus on one project at a time.
05-25-2011, 11:08 PM
Eruantien

its like saying a car company like BMW can only have one model at a time, seems odd to me
05-25-2011, 11:22 PM
ArkhamNative

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Originally Posted by Seif

Isn't Dofus the SRPGMMO being Published by SE? You can't find much info on it on the game's website but it was all over Gamasutra a long time ago.
http://release.square-enix.com/na/2010/09/09_01.html

SE is publishing Wakfu (sort of Dofus 2) for North America. ("Dofus" rhymes with Tofu, btw. :D) Wakfu is a free-to-play MMO and they're currently in closed beta. (GamerEscape (link) is still giving away beta keys in a sort of random chance type contest.)

Anyway, the SE announcement made me think of 2 things: Maybe a JP-region Wakfu; and a post someone made about FF14, mostly joking, that SE would never get a decent re-review for FF14, so they should fix problems, add actual content, and release it, renamed, as a new MMO. (Yes, this is, um, Airzaya Online!)
05-25-2011, 11:25 PM
Malakhim

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Originally Posted by Elexia

When it comes to Square, people are beyond cynical and negative even though SE runs pretty much the same as any large company with multiple divisions and development teams. Most companies only can focus on one project at a time.

Haven't you guys heard?

Bashing SE is the new hotness.

Don't worry, once SE's turn is over, everyone will go back to Activision.

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