Tank or Healer alt for Myth/Philo farming?

Sup guys. I'm just wondering which would be your go-to option for easy, fast-queue, Myth/Tome farming. I know I'll catch a lot of flak for this, but I'm talking about a chill, low-intensity job that I can do while watching Netflix while still paying attention.

Before you say it, I've both healed and tanked raids in other games while watching movies and have had no trouble keeping people up. AK/WP are considerably easier than those, so I wouldn't be hindering my party at all.

From my observations, it seems Healers tend to stand around doing nothing for a majority of the time during AK/WP (except WP speed runs, which is actually fun to pay full attention to on any job); particularly SCH.

If you are a healer standing around doing nothing, instead of Holy/Stone II spamming between heals, your kicked from my groups. =P

But tank would be insta queue, although your on my server, I don't see why you don't just join shout groups, they're always there en mass.

healer for AK is probably what you're looking for. just remember to dps pre-bees on demon wall.

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Originally Posted by ZDamned

If you are a healer standing around doing nothing, instead of Holy/Stone II spamming between heals, your kicked from my groups. =P

But tank would be insta queue, although your on my server, I don't see why you don't just join shout groups, they're always there en mass.

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Shout groups tend to require some level of commitment for multiple runs. I tend to go off and do random things between runs and generally like to go at my own pace, so I'm pretty much limited to the DF.

I don't mind throwing the occassional Stone/Aero/Thunder. I'm good at stance dancing. But it still seems like a relatively less hectic job, even compared to DPS. Tanks also seem pretty chill, but I imagine a lot more skill spam than either DPS or Healer.

As a tank, it's so easy to farm. I get into parties quick, yeah but as you get more geared, you don't have to do that much.

I think, for DF, go ahead and play Scholar. =) Tank is equal with skill spam as DPS.

The Que for healers is not fast, you are not the only one with this idea trust me. The tank que is far quicker, so if you want to actually cut down time play Paladin.

Cool, thanks guys. I'll continue the healer route for now. I know healers have queues, but they can't be more than DPS queues, right? I'm guessing 10-15 minutes as opposed to 40-50.

Ragnarok queued as a WHM in WP/AK wait time : 10-25mins

I can honestly say as a whm I can watch netflix while doing my tome runs. Please refer to the healers need to dps thread to see how well this goes over, but if you get a good tank and some decent dps, whm is the way to go for super lazy runs( I dont play a sch so I cant say how easy that is compared to whm). No one throw things at me please, I do dps in my runs.

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Originally Posted by SirSaber

Ragnarok queued as a WHM in WP/AK wait time : 10-25mins

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Interesting. About half the time as DPS, but still considerable. Now I'm torn between instant queues or less carpal tunnel.

WHM, throw some regen on them, keybind aero and watch the other monitor.

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Originally Posted by SirSaber

Ragnarok queued as a WHM in WP/AK wait time : 10-25mins

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Interesting. About half the time as DPS, but still considerable. Now I'm torn between instant queues or less carpal tunnel.

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

I can honestly say as a whm I can watch netflix while doing my tome runs. Please refer to the healers need to dps thread to see how well this goes over, but if you get a good tank and some decent dps, whm is the way to go for super lazy runs( I dont play a sch so I cant say how easy that is compared to whm). No one throw things at me please, I do dps in my runs.

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Originally Posted by Sayura_

WHM, throw some regen on them, keybind aero and watch the other monitor.

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Lol this is actually what I was aiming for.

Also, Sayura from GW2 -- Stonebluff Isle?

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Originally Posted by Capita

Interesting.

Also, Sayura from GW2 -- Stonebluff Isle?

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That's me!! Although, I left SBI for JQ around this time last year. Who did you play??

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Originally Posted by Sayura_

That's me!! Although, I left SBI for JQ around this time last year. Who did you play??

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I was Capita on the forums. Souma Kisa in-game, generally ran with SYN or Jedbacca and your guild, and commanded when no one from your guild or WM were on. I don't think we ever met in-game, but I've seen your posts in the WvW forum.

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Originally Posted by Capita

I was Capita on the forums. Souma Kisa in-game, generally ran with SYN or Jedbacca and your guild, and commanded when no one from your guild or WM were on. I don't think we ever met in-game, but I've seen your posts in the WvW forum.

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Awesome. We played with Strike Force and Jed on JQ for a long time. I miss WM and Jang-gun... had some of my best rvr moments following that dude.

No pvp/rvr (yet) in this game is making me :(

Do you remember Dreadlock Rasta? We met on GW2.. been dating 9mo now haha.

Tanks get instant ques and all you have to do is hold agro. And I like the power of being a tank. I don't like relying on someone else to tank and it takes time for another tank to gain my trust. But if I'm tanking I know I don't have to worry about getting a bad tank and a bad tank makes any farm run go south in a hurry.

Dealing with a bad healer is easier than dealing with a bad tank.

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Originally Posted by Sayura_

Awesome. We played with Strike Force and Jed on JQ for a long time. I miss WM and Jang-gun... had some of my best rvr moments following that dude.

No pvp/rvr (yet) in this game is making me :(

Do you remember Dreadlock Rasta? We met on GW2.. been dating 9mo now haha.

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That's awesome! I always love it when gamers get together :D

I can't wait for PVP in this game.

All I can say is 1sec queue times on tank.

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

I can honestly say as a whm I can watch netflix while doing my tome runs. Please refer to the healers need to dps thread to see how well this goes over, but if you get a good tank and some decent dps, whm is the way to go for super lazy runs( I dont play a sch so I cant say how easy that is compared to whm). No one throw things at me please, I do dps in my runs.

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If you think whm is easy, you can probably follow the tank as a SCH and let your fairy do all the healing......seriously.

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

I can honestly say as a whm I can watch netflix while doing my tome runs. Please refer to the healers need to dps thread to see how well this goes over, but if you get a good tank and some decent dps, whm is the way to go for super lazy runs( I dont play a sch so I cant say how easy that is compared to whm). No one throw things at me please, I do dps in my runs.

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Scholar is easy peasy , Adloquium and Stoneskin and you're golden.

Considering this isn't your first 50 and you seem to want to be active, I'd suggest tank. You already know all the content so it'll be easy to lead people through it. It is also easier to carry a bad DF group through content on a tank than a healer.

I'm curious about this. I've never looked into it, but is it possible to trade the tomes between characters, or are you talking about developing an alt for a specific purpose?

People from other MMOs like to call other jobs leveled on the same character 'Alts' for some reason.

My Main is a PLD and my Alt is WHM.

I love my tank don't get me wrong, I like raiding on my tank but when it comes to day to day grind stuff I go WHM most of the time because oddly enough its less stressful and less work.

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Originally Posted by Yashnaheen

People from other MMOs like to call other jobs leveled on the same character 'Alts' for some reason.

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Ah, that explains it. Thanks. To me an alt is another character, not another job. Especially in a game where you're meant to level multiple jobs on the same character.

Go PLD
Join a WP speedrun
Make a macro that uses flash every second with Rampart and Sentinel weaved between
Gather mobs
If your MP gets low, pop an ether / riot blade

healer isn't fast que , because healing is actually fun in this game . Tank on the other hand is fun but a constant battle to hold agro sometimes unless you are geared to the hilt like I am .

sch is easier then whm, I sit in cleric stance most the dungeon tossing DoTs and stuff while fairy heals....only do stance dance on boss fights. Although for WP speed runs I prefer to be whm as tanks HP drops fast when has 8-10 things hitting them so sch more frantic for healing that.

Tank is still instant for me. My whm usually needs to wait about 10-20 mins.

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Originally Posted by o3o

Tank is still instant for me. My whm usually needs to wait about 10-20 mins.

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Yeah, this is pretty accurate. Tank is after all the most sought after job to complete a party. So Tank would probably be the better choice if you're looking to farm tomes quickly.

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Originally Posted by Flionheart

Go PLD
Join a WP speedrun
Make a macro that uses flash every second with Rampart and Sentinel weaved between
Gather mobs
If your MP gets low, pop an ether / riot blade

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I wouldn't do that. U want to save Rampart and Sentinel for specific pulls...

Easy mode would be scholar as was mentioned. Just let the pet heal and cast when you feel like it.

Tank is too much of a pain if your looking for easy mode really the main pain is dealing with idiots in the group.

Need more tanks...

Tanking moderately well requires a lot of keyboard action, tanking well / doing real speed runs is pretty tough trying to watch Netflix...

You're not going to hold agro with pure flash spam on any decent DPS, and they are going to get annoyed when they constantly peel off of you. Scholar is probably what you want here, as your party members will hate you the least in that role.

Yeah I don't mind a queue as long as it's shorter than DPS. I considered tank when I posted this but I really can't see how a tank can go through a dungeon with only half of his attention now, which is pretty much my purpose. I do want to be lazy farming for tomes, because it's not exactly a daunting task as much as it is a tedious one.

As far as healers go, I did hear SCH was easier to just have pet do most of the heals, but I also hear it's more button-mashy than WHM. I also hear the fairy isn't too great at semi-solo healing AK/WP until you're in full DL?

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

Ah, that explains it. Thanks. To me an alt is another character, not another job. Especially in a game where you're meant to level multiple jobs on the same character.

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ALTernative character

ALTernative job

The key word here is "alternative", abd the subject is interchangeable depending on context. Shouldn't be an issue.

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Originally Posted by Eztam

sch is easier then whm, I sit in cleric stance most the dungeon tossing DoTs and stuff while fairy heals....only do stance dance on boss fights. Although for WP speed runs I prefer to be whm as tanks HP drops fast when has 8-10 things hitting them so sch more frantic for healing that.

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I don't find it that bad, lustrate , Adloquium. Set Eos to.steady rouse and whispering dawn.