SE you have my Money Please take away weekly Myth Cap....

SE you have my money for 3 months and will get it again. I understand the need to drag out content so people will keep playing your game so you get paid, But you are allowing us to pay three even six months at a time. So your getting paid, Please take away the weekly cap on Myth Tomes. And not 4-8 months from 2.1


Allagan Gear beats most pieces of Relic, So people will still be doing coils every week. So you will still get paid.

I'm just really getting bored of this game log in a few times a week do CoB and then finish off myth in AK and come back on Monday and do it over.

If Myth Tomes didn't have a cap then I would feel the need to play other jobs and prolong my play time and stick around for the long run like I did in FFXI.

So Please Take away the weekly Mythology Cap.

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Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO

This. it's one thing slowing character development; but what about when you have multiple classes? - you have to CHOOSE which class you will make coil-ready and which is going to be second rate... and what if you later decide you want to make another class you main? - wait months to gear them too?

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This. I have a coils group and I go MNK but we lost 2 tanks over the last few weeks, So I was leveling PLD and made a Relic for faster AK Queue times ^^ and now my CoB leader wants me to go PLD ; ; but I can't +1 the sword or get any relic gear for weeks. And I started to level BRD for coils and I want to play DRG too but I can't gear them all in Relic much less make a relic+1 for them for months.

That's the one thing I loved about FFXI you could have more than one main job. And it didn't take months and months to gear.

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Originally Posted by DenzelTaru

sure thing!!

said no SE ever

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It's going to happen. But it needs to happen sooner than later.

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Yup and don't forget they always put stuff in after no one cares and it really doesn't benefit anyone like it could have lol.

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This is true sadly.

Pretty much the same. Do coil on monday, a few AK/WP to cap myth, log out till reset.

You know SE though, they'll only say they are looking into it and you'll see it 6+ months from now.

sure thing!!

said no SE ever

Or at the very least make the cap per job.

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Originally Posted by Terius

Pretty much the same. Do coil on monday, a few AK/WP to cap myth, log out till reset.

You know SE though, they'll only say they are looking into it and you'll see it 6+ months from now.

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Yup and don't forget they always put stuff in after no one cares and it really doesn't benefit anyone like it could have lol.

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Originally Posted by Myric

Or at the very least make the cap per job.

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This. it's one thing slowing character development; but what about when you have multiple classes? - you have to CHOOSE which class you will make coil-ready and which is going to be second rate... and what if you later decide you want to make another class you main? - wait months to gear them too?

Don't do that. That would make DL useless. Just allow us to play multiple classes.

The game has so little content at the moment and this just isn't helping. There is NO reason not to do it.

If they took away the cap entirely they'd drastically reduce the amount of stones you get. No thanks. I'd rather do a few dungeon runs every week to get something than have to do like 200 runs to get something. Otherwise, lifting the limit would further trivialize the rewards for coil.

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Just allow us to play multiple classes.

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you're allowed to play multiple classes. Just make a gear set and equip it.

Yes, I know what you meant. But af1.5 is not a requirement to play multiple classes.

Or just raise it to 500 a week. Would help greatly.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

If they took away the cap entirely they'd drastically reduce the amount of stones you get. No thanks. I'd rather do a few dungeon runs every week to get something than have to do like 200 runs to get something.

you're allowed to play multiple classes. Just make a gear set and equip it.

Yes, I know what you meant. But af1.5 is not a requirement to play multiple classes.

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Yes it is. Show a group of people running T5 in DL only with regular Relics.

You know what that means? That's right, you can only play 1 class for all content and the rest can only play certain pieces and even then that's only if you're not already locked out on your one class.

The myth cap is quite irritating but I understand why it's there. If it were removed in general it would make a lot of gear pretty much useless since you can just deck out in iLvl90 gear in 2-3 days. I think it should be made to where each jobs has its own myth cap and gear for that job can only be bought while on that job. Say you want SCH body, you wouldn't be able to buy it with myths from say BLM. Accessories could be pooled together for DoM or DoW and it wouldn't really be game breaking imo. That would also give us the option to +1 all our relics instead of having to pick or chose for months at a time.

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Allagan Gear beats most pieces of Relic, So people will still be doing coils every week. So you will still get paid.

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AF2 stat > or = Allagan

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Originally Posted by Sterob

AF2 stat > or = Allagan

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Na, sometimes Allagan is better, sometimes AF2 is better.

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Originally Posted by Hiraki

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You will be decked out in full i90 gear either way... by just weekly grinding of AK/WP(so hard right?:eek:).
You need i90s for turn 5 and a few to pass the dps check in turn 4.
There is no point to just drag this on for so long just to have a chance of clearing the content.

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Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi

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That's true but removing the cap makes darklight and philo crafts essentially useless. Why would you want to bother with anything philo when you can get into your relic armor in a day just by doing WPSR or something. There needs to be some kind of balance where it doesn't completely make other gear obsolete right away while also not making the player feel punished for wanting to play multiple jobs. As it's been said before we were supposed to have CT at launch and the gear from there is a bridge between philo and coil/myth that we are getting very late.

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

Yes it is. Show a group of people running T5 in DL only with regular Relics.

You know what that means? That's right, you can only play 1 class for all content and the rest can only play certain pieces and even then that's only if you're not already locked out on your one class.

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Becuase turn 5 is all of the content in this game. It's not like there isn't... 4 other turns of coil, a bunch of dungeons, crafts to level, items to gather, quests to do, etc...

(I also know people with 2 or 3 +1 weapons now, and people who have beaten turn 5 are rewarded with relic+1 equivalents)

Besides, they've already said they're going to loosen the limits on earlier gear as newer things come; Crystal tower will also be ideal for gearing up secondary jobs- I'm sure the ilvl80 gear will work.

You also have the option of making an alt. Finally, you can always get around the limit by taking allagan drops for your other jobs that someone else doesn't need.

No, thank you.

there're too many people wearing the same things as me already and I don't want to see more.

That cap is the only thing keeping people around. Why would you want them to get rid of it?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Becuase turn 5 is all of the content in this game. It's not like there isn't... 4 other turns of coil, a bunch of dungeons, crafts to level, items to gather, quests to do, etc...

(I also know people with 2 or 3 +1 weapons now, and people who have beaten turn 5 are rewarded with relic+1 equivalents)

Besides, they've already said they're going to loosen the limits on earlier gear as newer things come; Crystal tower will also be ideal for gearing up secondary jobs- I'm sure the ilvl80 gear will work.

You also have the option of making an alt. Finally, you can always get around the limit by taking allagan drops for your other jobs that someone else doesn't need.

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Why are you defending a broken system? A system that simultaneously encourages and discourages alts.

There are zero negatives associated with splitting the cap amongst different classes, the only issues comes about when having separate coil lockouts.

Crystal Tower is in no way ideal. It will have a weekly lockout and with RNG loot there's no guarantee you'll get a single drop before you are in full iLvL 90.

I just want to get inside the mind of what appears to be a White Knight.

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Originally Posted by meJojo

Or just raise it to 500 a week. Would help greatly.

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Which will also raise how much items cost? Nope, I'll gladly take my 300 a week - Those who say "they don't have to raise the prices" doesn't understand balance. SE didn't choose the numbers they did for the heck of it lol.

Also: You can play as many classes as you want. You don't need full Myth gear to run coils (proven) and coils even drop allagan gear which is basically the "mirrored" version with a different stat which helps you in later turns (5 dropping the last pieces.) It's great to have but unless someone can show me that the game prevents you from switching classes besides the one you started as...no one can say you're not able to play multiple classes.

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Originally Posted by Mahtari

That cap is the only thing keeping people around. Why would you want them to get rid of it?

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This is my Rant sorry in advanced.

That's the point The Weekly Cap is the only thing keeping people around..... SE already has my money for 3 months and when those 3 months are up I will pay another 3 months get it? If they want to keep getting my money every 3 months then they need to change it. TBH I could care less for CoB we have no other end game content that will give us better gear than CoB has to offer now, When 2.2 comes then we may have better stuff but until then you have another 4-8 months of CoB turn1-5 so there is plenty of time.

But what pisses me off is there is a weekly Cap I can't take a break from the game for more than 6 days cause I have to cap out if I want to get better gear. I cant take a break for a month until 2.1 comes out or until 2.2 because I would be losing out on gear. I PAID my money for 3 months and I know I wasn't the only one I'm sure some paid for 6.

The only reason SE has even put a cap on Myth tomes is so people will pay and keep paying. Yes there are people who play month to month and if they got all their relic gear in 2-3 days they wouldn't stick around but I bet you they would cause there are plenty of jobs to level and gear and you wont be rocking all relic in 2-3 days.

No cap would give me incentive to keep playing. I login 2 days a week now and that is for coils and to cap myth for the week. And I know that a lot of people are doing the same I see it in many threads. I was in the process of leveling other jobs to 50 just so when CT comes out I would have plenty of stuff to do to keep me busy. I leveled 3 crafts to 50 and another otw. So there is a lot of stuff for me to do in the game but its all becoming mind numbing, I would love to take a break and come back in a month or so when 2.1 comes out. But because we have a weekly Cap I don't want to fall behind.

And if anything the Cap is breaking this game. FFXIV has a lot of potential down the road I can see it, It takes time.

Lets not forget that at some point we will be getting 2 more sets of Tomes............

Wow I've never read so much junk like here. Is everyone crying about the 3 months subscription and compare it to the weekly mytho cap? Seriously is it all about those 30 bucks?
The next major content will be released in december and it will contain CT with Ilvl80 drops, remaining ilvl90 still the top. Would be pretty stupid of them to remove the cap or increase it, so everyone can run around with full ilvl90 bought from NPC before CT comes out, sounds legit.
And tbh, no player is using an entire Mythology Set, there is always a mix of allagan and Mytho to get the best stat build out of it.

Oh and if players claim to equip more classes with mytho gear and whatsoever, then go get some fresh air or focus your mainchar before others, exceptions are if you are that stupid lucky in drops in Bc, but I doubt it :x

Without the cap, getting some of the "best" gear becomes a joke like so much of the other content. Not that making it artificially difficult to obtain is a good thing, but we have to admit that getting the best gear in the game has a really low bar set for it - anyone can do it anytime.

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Originally Posted by Vindicate

Wow I've never read so much junk like here. Is everyone crying about the 3 months subscription and compare it to the weekly mytho cap? Seriously is it all about those 30 bucks?
The next major content will be released in december and it will contain CT with Ilvl80 drops, remaining ilvl90 still the top. Would be pretty stupid of them to remove the cap or increase it, so everyone can run around with full ilvl90 bought from NPC before CT comes out, sounds legit.
And tbh, no player is using an entire Mythology Set, there is always a mix of allagan and Mytho to get the best stat build out of it.

Oh and if players claim to equip more classes with mytho gear and whatsoever, then go get some fresh air or focus your mainchar before others, exceptions are if you are that stupid lucky in drops in Bc, but I doubt it :x

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You are 100% correct it is about the money. That SE wants our money so in order to keep the masses around(More money for them) they are putting a cap on Mythology. FYI I think I was the only one to cry about 3 month subs. Its about the cap and not being able to take a break and waiting until there is something fun to do in this game beside logging in 1-2 times a week just to do CoB and cap myth that's my problem. Anyone who says otherwise is just Blind and doesn't want it to be true. If there was no weekly cap I would take my leave and come back when 2.1 happens.

"Would be pretty stupid of them to remove the cap or increase it, so everyone can run around with full ilvl90 bought from NPC before CT comes out, sounds legit."

Well was pretty stupid of SE to take it out of launch to begin with and we wouldn't be having this covo today right?

I did see a BLM this week who had all Allagan but 3 Accessories. Pretty good luck that person has.

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Originally Posted by EinSoFZ

Without the cap, getting some of the "best" gear becomes a joke like so much of the other content. Not that making it artificially difficult to obtain is a good thing, but we have to admit that getting the best gear in the game has a really low bar set for it - anyone can do it anytime.

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I'll tell you what the joke is SE made some of the best gear in the game easy to get by anyone. Waiting 1 week IRL is the Joke anyone with a weapon and crap gear can run AK/WP and cap out it just takes time. CoB on the other hand is not that easy for everyone to do and people sure as hell ain't doing it with crap gear. And the RNG on gear there is complete crap Must be nice being a DRG.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

I'll tell you what the joke is SE made some of the best gear in the game easy to get by anyone. Waiting 1 week IRL is the Joke anyone with a weapon and crap gear can run AK/WP and cap out it just takes time. CoB on the other hand is not that easy for everyone to do and people sure as hell ain't doing it with crap gear. And the RNG on gear there is complete crap Must be nice..

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Maybe in the future it won't be quite so simplistic and "on rails". I suppose if they keep adding better gear and don't make future equipment piss easy to obtain like DL/Relic/AF2 is now, there will eventually be some discrepancy between players and less of a "all this gear is just being handed out" sort of system. As is, I guess myth is supposed to be something rare and special when the reality is that it just makes it a waiting game to get the gear. Removing the cap would just make the hand outs even more obvious to me, regardless of whether it's just a matter of time anyway

At the very least, people can't speed gear every 50 they have and be the bestest on the server..

If they remove the Myth cap the only thing that'll do is keep people entertained for a week before they get everything they want and start complaining again about lack of content.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Dude its not even Lack of Content running AK/WP 8/10 times a week its a Time Sink. At some point down the road people will have it. Another thing SE is going to remove the cap in a few months anyways. People already complain about lack of content so that will always be there even if there wasn't a cap, Its sad SE has to put a Cap in play just to keep people playing.

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Yeah, and SE introduced the Myth cap so that point down the road comes later.

Yes, its true that people already complain about lack of content now, but at least there's still a carrot to keep them going. Remove the myth cap and there won't even be that.

Not saying that I like having caps in games, but its kind of hard to not have some sort of cap. They can't just make unlimited upgrades after all.

I would just like the cap to roll over for at most 3 weeks, so I don't absolutely have to farm 300 myth within every week. I could slack some during one week and catch up within the next two weeks.

Like how leve allowances work.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

No, thank you.

there're too many people wearing the same things as me already and I don't want to see more.

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Your wearing instanced loot in a game with gcd and zero competition. Idk where u get this sense of accomplishment from

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

If they remove the Myth cap the only thing that'll do is keep people entertained for a week before they get everything they want and start complaining again about lack of content.

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Dude its not even Lack of Content running AK/WP 8/10 times a week its a Time Sink. At some point down the road people will have it. Another thing SE is going to remove the cap in a few months anyways. People already complain about lack of content so that will always be there even if there wasn't a cap, Its sad SE has to put a Cap in play just to keep people playing.

Removing the cap? HELL NO! It'll make other things useless.

Separating the cap from one CLASS / JOB to another? HELL YES! It's pretty geniused that they actually didn't do that.

In response to some of the above posts, the bar is already set pretty low for getting the ilvl90 gear off the vendor. The only thing is they made it insanely slow to get. It takes 10 speed runs of WP a week to do that, which is around 40 minutes a night for 5 days. My opinion is that the ilvl90 sets should require some kind of component obtained from defeating a difficult boss and just take away the myth cap. I agree with the OP that the cap is a bit too strict when we can easily take on multiple roles, but that's just another opinion of mine.

Myth cap is fine as it is for now, if there was no cap people would be maxing out their mains with AF+1 within a week or two.

If you want gear up alts, go DL. You get plenty of spare Philosophy tomes when doing your AK/WP runs so put them to use.

Some of the best gear in the game is done from grinding WP over and over, which is the easiest end game content there is. Similar gear is dropped from Coil, which is currently the hardest content we have, and the gear that drops there rightfully deserves to be gotten from there. Currently we are handed welfare epics known as relics and AF 2 gear, and people complain that they can't get their welfare gear faster?

Myth caps are fine, if they were higher, once CT came out, everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, would be in full AF2, and there would be no point to running it at all.

The real problem is that there is no reason to have multiple jobs to 50 when you benefit much more from leveling up a separate character for each job you want to play.

If you level up PLD, WHM, and BLM on 1 character you have to pick 1 job to get myth for and do coil with and the other 2 jobs are worthless.

If you level up PLD, WHM, and BLM on 3 seperate characters you can do coil 3 times and get myth on all 3 characters and make all 3 jobs useful.

The core issue is that the armory system and the multiple jobs on one character system is completely worthless with the coil/myth restrictions.