FC Application?

Anybody actually fill these crazy FC application? I was looking at all the FC recruitment on NA/EU servers. FC don't take you unless you fill out an application and a interview for a VIDEO GAME lol. I'm just shocked its just a video game poeple play for fun. FC are just for hang out and chill maybe talk a little bit thats all and you get free stat bonus too:)
Maybe its just me and i'm missing something here i don't know:confused:

First world problem xD

Depends on how hardcore the FC is, take into consideration the time people play the game, they don't want to waste it on people who aren't in the same tier as them Skill/Gear wise, or play/raid in different timezones. So filtering out the casual's from the hardcore is imho the major point of having this process.

There are plenty of FC's that don't require you to fill out anything, but what can you expect to gain from simply being in giant chatroom with FC buffs.

you new to this endgame thing? :3 people have been expecting apps for endgame raiding guilds for the longest time, if your dead weight in a raid group your actively screwing over every one else, its just a way to judge that your not 100% derp

I got all my gear without FC and you don't need to be in a FC to beat this game

Your missing something. Yet It is just a game for many people if you casual or just play for your own enjoyment you do not need to worry about them., but most of those recruitment guilds are setting up for the long haul. Those are people who are just setting up there guilds so it last for years and to reduce the drama. It may seem stupid to a lot people. But a lot those people have been running guilds for many years on many other mmos also. Something you will notice down the road many of the FC's will slowly disappear. Yet a lot those sign up guilds will have a lot people still in them even if there are playing other games. They will still be playing this game. Most of the applications stuff is a product from all the Free to play mmos. It is a reason a lot them have the sign up.

if you don't want to fill out an application, just join one of the FCs that don't recruit like that.
I used to be quite wary of applications too, until I actually went and 'bit the bullet' in SW:TOR.
the result is astonishing:
I've been in this (the TOR) guild for almost 2 years now, made lots of friends - even met a couple of them in person even though we're on a US server and I'm from Europe. I love these people.
why they/we have an application process? so we know people fit in with us. we care exactly .zero. how good you are. we'll help you get better and if you never do that's also ok! we expect that you are dedicated to the guild and that your goals are the same as ours. our app helps us to 'filter out' the elitist douchebags and still make sure people don't join us just because they saw our tag in a random warzone...

it's one of the reasons I haven't joined a FC in this game yet. I'm not sure if I want a 'casual' FC, an 'endgame' FC, or an FC that is like my SWTOR guild :P

There are certainly FCs that will take anyone who asks to join, and if all you want from a FC is "just for hang out and chill maybe talk a little bit thats all and you get free stat bonus too" then that sort of FC is for you.

Otherwise even a casual FC is going to want to know some things about you just to see if you'd be a good fit with them. If you use explicit language, then 'family friendly' FCs probably won't work for you. On the opposite side there are FCs that aren't for the easily offended. These are just examples.

I think it depends on the FC. Sure, some have massive requirements, but it's not like they're forcing you to join them XD Some FCs also have the simplest application form and the form of interview is only like 'Will you be active? Y/N' lol. I understand the FCs that do want to accomplish things and organize raids in a manner that's convenient for all members and one way to find that out is to sort application form, etc, though. So yah. I'm sure you can find an FC that's casual and laidback which I presume is what you want :) Have fun.

My FC uses an application system for recruitment, and I can't imagine doing it any other way. And we are not a hardcore group.

The thing you have to consider is that when you spend time with anyone is this game, you are taking up their time as well as your own. People just like to make sure they are going to recruit people who will not only fit in socially with their group but will be competent and committed so their play time is not wasted.

Screening applicants helps ensure you are recruiting the type of people you need for your FC. Some have a more intensive process then others, but overall it is a pretty reasonable thing to ask people to do imo.

Our FC uses applications for recruitment. We're a multi-game community, and the only real way for people to participate in the actual community (because not everyone is playing FFXIV) is through the website and forums. It also allows us to keep tabs on how long someone has been with the community, do an initial screen to see if they're a general fit for our type of attitude, and track how active they're being in the community for promotional purposes.

For certain games we have scheduled events (like raids) in a community calendar there too. So.. overall, for us it's important for members to use the website, which means applying.

While I don't really like filling out applications, the aim is basically to weed out people who would just join on a whim and leave the next day. So it's not necessarily about the application itself, but more to see if you really want to put in some effort to join.

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Originally Posted by Dawning-Blue

I got all my gear without FC and you don't need to be in a FC to beat this game

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So why are you complaining? Why make a thread about it?

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Originally Posted by Dawning-Blue

I got all my gear without FC and you don't need to be in a FC to beat this game

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I would have taken this with a bit more credibility had you cleared -anything- from Binding Coils, especially turn 5.

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Originally Posted by Inquisitor

There are certainly FCs that will take anyone who asks to join, and if all you want from a FC is "just for hang out and chill maybe talk a little bit thats all and you get free stat bonus too" then that sort of FC is for you.

Otherwise even a casual FC is going to want to know some things about you just to see if you'd be a good fit with them. If you use explicit language, then 'family friendly' FCs probably won't work for you. On the opposite side there are FCs that aren't for the easily offended. These are just examples.

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Actually he/she dont need a FC but a linkshell or chat channel. There is a difference, linkshells are the chat channels thats where you habg out and the FC is endgame.

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Originally Posted by Verius_Nox

I would have taken this with a bit more credibility had you cleared -anything- from Binding Coils, especially turn 5.

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i did Binding Coil turn 1 it was a shout group i ask to join and took me they only ask me if i have 5 darklight armor set and i also told them it was my first time. The hard part was was the last boss you had to keep the two snakes away from one another and kill at same time. I don't know about turn 2-5 i have not done that yet

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Originally Posted by Maxthunder

Actually he/she dont need a FC but a linkshell or chat channel. There is a difference, linkshells are the chat channels thats where you habg out and the FC is endgame.

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FC and LS share no real big difference, expect the buffs.
I have 3 LS. We trade, we ask to do dungeons together and we have fun and chat.
Just like a FC. No where does it say FC's only cater to End-game, it's what you make of the FC.

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Originally Posted by Dawning-Blue

i did Binding Coil turn 1 it was a shout group i ask to join and took me they only ask me if i have 5 darklight armor set and i also told them it was first time. The hard part was was the last boss you had to keep the two snakes away from one another and kill at same time. I don't know about turn 2-5 i have not done that yet

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His point was you have not "beaten" the game. Yet you make the claim it can be done without an FC(Or an LS even). Not saying it's not possible, but don't make the claim if it hasn't been done.

If you only want an FC for people to chat with and get FC buffs, there are plenty of those out there and they are typically shouting on servers for members just handing out invites.

If an FC is asking for an application and you don't understand why, then you probably wouldn't be a good fit in there anyway so no need to worry about that.

There are endgame-focused FCs that look to recruit capable/experienced endgame raiders who also can show up to their particular scheduled events. In order to determine such things, an application process is the most effective method.

Sure, it's a video game but you don't need to just have a knee-jerk reaction without putting any thought into this. It serves the same purpose job applications in real life do - filtering out people who wouldn't be a good fit for your group for whatever reason.

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Originally Posted by ispano

His point was you have not "beaten" the game. Yet you make the claim it can be done without an FC(Or an LS even). Not saying it's not possible, but don't make the claim if it hasn't been done.

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How do you know it hasn't been done before? I've seen people shout for randoms for turn 4 or turn 5 groups. I think its -very- possible to do content without an FC or LS, but most times people will still ask you to join their vent or mumble even though you are a random.

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Originally Posted by xXHalloweenTrixXx

How do you know it hasn't been done before? I've seen people shout for randoms for turn 4 or turn 5 groups. I think its -very- possible to do content without an FC or LS, but most times people will still ask you to join their vent or mumble even though you are a random.

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See, you bring proof when you make the claim. He did not. I also said in my post that it wasn't impossible either.

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Originally Posted by xXHalloweenTrixXx

How do you know it hasn't been done before? I've seen people shout for randoms for turn 4 or turn 5 groups. I think its -very- possible to do content without an FC or LS, but most times people will still ask you to join their vent or mumble even though you are a random.

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People are shouting for them, sure. Turn 4 probably has been cleared with a PUG. That is to say, it's not very likely but I wouldn't be surprised either. Turn 5 on the other hand, I'm fairly certain a PUG hasn't cleared it. Even for non-FC parties, there is usually a static(LS) involved anyway.

The idea is, Turn 4 and 5 particularly require a solid dose of coordination from all players and in the case of Turn 5, plenty of experience. You typically don't get that by grabbing random people, but rather by repeating attempts with the same group if possible.

Ultimately though, it has nothing to do with it being possible or not. Coordinated FCs will always do it first. Furthermore, people who play well typically enjoy playing with like-minded and equivalently capable individuals and would prefer to tackle all the content the game throws at them together, in an organized fashion. That is what an endgame FC is about.

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Like other have said it have a lot to do with drama and time you play. I know my ls you apply then you join mumble and see how you fit with everyone else. If you can't take sarcasm Then your not really a fit for the FC also it to see what time you play on. So the FC can build other party for coil and such. But pretty much most FC is like applying for a job and i understand why they have that many FC that just let anyone in don't really do much. Most of the time there a core group of people doing stuff. The rest are just there doing noting and when you ask for help or a coil party it hard to get one of most open FC.

Not saying that all open FC are like that but a big % are.

Mine is a casual FC but we still use an application on our site to filter recruits. Why? Because hard core raiders probly won't be happy in my FC.

Both FC I've ever been in just sent me a /tell while I was running around the city and asked if I wanted to join...I think the hardcore endgamers are the ones that do this, so if you don't like being in a group w/ those types then don't bother with those applications.

An application saves me time. It's so I don't have to ask the same questions again and again through chat.

Need to filter out:Immature players, and players who can't meet our raiding schedule.

Come to my server and I'll take you without an application <3

I hate long applications so I made mine super short and not required.

the applications are for a different type of fc then the type you want to be in. the better groups will always have an application process. some may be longer and more detailed than others, but they will have one. these days i'd be more wary of joining a fc that doesn't have an application than one that does.

It's understandable if the guild is popular and they get many request to join, there's a lot of terrible and rude players out there.

I can understand it for a raiding guild, that is to be expected. I don't understand the whole point with a 'casual' guild though. I could understand a brief interview beforehand to see if you 'fit in', but an application just seems unnecessary for non-hardcore guilds.

I'm always wary of those casual guilds (hardcore as well to a lesser extent.) that require it as there will often be cliques already made most likely from past games. I prefer not to be in one of those where favoritism runs rampant. Of course, I'm sure there are exceptions to that. It's one of those things that can't be helped though. So being 'better' is completely subjective. Just my opinion.