Please, seriously, allow us to send tells to people in dungeons.

Edit: It's simple, give us three options -

1. Receive tells from friends while in dungeons? On by default.
2. Receive tells from party-mates while in dungeons? On by default.
3. Receive tells from anyone on your server while in dungeons. Off by default.

At least allow us to whisper our friends. Just like party chat, someone who is busy in a fight isn't going to stop and reply.

I met a cool, good, whm today and wanted to pick him up for more WP running again but he was in an instance so wasn't able to. He's on my friendlist but not in my guild or FC.

It is simply frustrating. I know this topic has come up before but that's because it's a good idea.

It's even alright if they can't receive tells while finding a boss, and it replies to the player "Drag Anne is fighting Anantaboga and is unable to reply.".

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Originally Posted by Sunarie

I want to be able to send tells in dungeons both to my friends list folks, and to folks currently in the dungeon. If someone is screwing something up, I would much rather send a gentle tell with suggestions than call them out in front of the entire group.

I also think it would be awesome to have the option to repeat a dungeon with the same group. There have been some awesome pugs I've been in, but we have no way to run together again.

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This too! I don't like embarrassing people, and sometimes, no matter how nicely you phrase something, the text is flat and people take offense.

And yeah, I'd love to be able to requeue with the group, or whatever portion remains.

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Originally Posted by warren-ragnarok

i think it should be a setting that can be enabled or disabled, i actually like not getting tells in dungeons, especially from pesky RMTs, and that annoying guy asking me to do titan with him and his fail groups :)

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This would be better than what we've got. However, limiting it to just friend list stops the rmt issue mostly, unless a friend gets hacked. I just can't see how receiving tells from friends is a bad thing.

The last response from devs on this was "blah blah we don't want people to be able to harass you"

How about just tells to people on your friends list?

Lets compromise here.

I was just thinking about posting this again today. We really need this to be fixed because I spend a huge majority of my time chaining instances like coil and tome farms early in the week, and it basically completely nullifies any conversations I have with friends who aren't able to participate in this content or join my linkshell yet.

I have to use a messenger and tab out of the game to talk to my friends that are playing the same game on the same server as me in a pay to play title? Are you kidding me?

That, AND being able to invite friends when someone drops out. Currently all you can do is chat in a linkshell and ask they to try to queue for an in progress dungeon, and *hope* they get your group.

I think the reason we can't send tells is because they don't allow cross server chat. When you use duty finder, you're actually put into a different server. I think that's why we can actually party up with people on other servers. Until they let cross server chat happen, i doubt they'll allow tells or whispers sadly. But i agree, it would be a nice feature.

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Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath

I think the reason we can't send tells is because they don't allow cross server chat. When you use duty finder, you're actually put into a different server. I think that's why we can actually party up with people on other servers. Until they let cross server chat happen, i doubt they'll allow tells or whispers sadly. But i agree, it would be a nice feature.

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If this was the case we wouldn't have been able to chat with people in LS or FC with us.

Literally the only reason we can't send tells in dungeons is because it is disabled by choice, not by a technical limitation, and the devs said as much even in beta.

i think it should be a setting that can be enabled or disabled, i actually like not getting tells in dungeons, especially from pesky RMTs, and that annoying guy asking me to do titan with him and his fail groups :)

I want to be able to send tells in dungeons both to my friends list folks, and to folks currently in the dungeon. If someone is screwing something up, I would much rather send a gentle tell with suggestions than call them out in front of the entire group.

I also think it would be awesome to have the option to repeat a dungeon with the same group. There have been some awesome pugs I've been in, but we have no way to run together again.

We should have tells in the dungeon , It less rude talking to someone play style in front of everyone in the party. If there new to a dungeon they will not feel so harassed from the other players. We should have a default dungeon whisper command tells and have open world tells from friends. We also not clutter the FC chats or the linkshells Chats. But most in voice chat programs anyways. If someone that do not like tells in the dungeons then they have option to turn off the whisper or tells command and make sure other players know you got them off. When you sent the tell and it blocked. Also have a quick mute option if you get a tell you can just mute the tell. Till dungeon over. Make a better play experience for everyone.

I agree completely, Sunarie and Mindful.

Bumptacular.

what about Linkshells?

Being able to send tells is just a double edge sword. it has its perks but it has its bad sides also. People will abuse this, some people like to bully and be as cuel as possible via pms and try to keep a good appearance in party chat. gold sellers will wtf spam you to hell and back.

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Originally Posted by Shadowzanon

People will abuse this, some people like to bully and be as cuel as possible via pms and try to keep a good appearance in party chat

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Yeah, that would be my biggest worry too.

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Originally Posted by Shadowzanon

Being able to send tells is just a double edge sword. it has its perks but it has its bad sides also. People will abuse this, some people like to bully and be as cuel as possible via pms and try to keep a good appearance in party chat. gold sellers will wtf spam you to hell and back.

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That...is a fair concern if non-friend tells were support (like being able to whisper people in the same group), however, people that will make that effort are just being mean in party chat currently.

So yeah, don't allow tells between dungeon players (unless they're on your flist, of course, lol) and just keep it to friends-list. Most of the people you want to advise don't want to hear it anyway, sadly.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

The last response from devs on this was "blah blah we don't want people to be able to harass you"

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And this is such a horrid excuse. They use this kind of speech for so much. Oh they don't want to implement a /sleep emote because people might make inappropriate images! Oh, they don't want you sending tells in a dungeon because people might be mean to each other!

Get over it, SE. Stop policing your players so damn hard and let us talk to our friends.

I've been in enough DF runs to see players just using the regular party chat to harass, belittle, berate, and just plain insult a player in front of others. So tell me SE, how is this any different from getting it in a tell from same person? It's not. The only "harassment" we don't get is from all those damn RMT sending us tells while were in the dungeon run.

People say it will be abused and there will be much harassing going on but in reality if someone is deadweight they get called out in party chat regardless, which is even worse than getting harassed in tells.

100% agree, its a total nuisance and I dont think it really helps at all (in terms of harrassment). Like others have said, the abuse just spills over into /p instead.

2013 MMO there is no reason as to why we can't have this feature. The "play nice" cop out is a lame cop out.

It's complete bull shit and they need to sort it out.

SE, we are not children, you do not have to "protect" us from other group members talking trash through tell.

Let me give you an example, let's say you Q up for a dungeon with an FC member or two, now if you meet someone who is terrible at their role you do one of three things ...

A. Talk to them and try to get them to do better.

B. Yell at them like a fool hoping somehow shaming will bring about change.

C. Trash talk them to your FC mates but say nothing to the person themselves.

Now, most people go with B or C, and it is a shame, but you see the point, people ALREADY trash talk players, you all blocking tells changes nothing. People WILL be teased, they WILL be harassed, you only make things harder on those of us who DONT harass players.

No tells in a dungeon, pfft, SE I would like you to keep in mind that right now, DCUO, an MMO that can't hold a candle to this one, is better than yours right now communication wise...that's a true shame.

I'm bumping this to keep it on the front page because I want another response. The last I heard it was completely possible and they had just "masked" the ability. Also the response about protecting us from harassing tells in Duty Finder blah blah blah. I want to be able to send tells and I want a real update on this.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

The last response from devs on this was "blah blah we don't want people to be able to harass you"

How about just tells to people on your friends list?

Lets compromise here.

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I'm fairly certain that "Not being able to harass someone" is just a PR excuse. Hopefully they will implement it in the future.

Since most of the game is instanced, this limitation means that we cannot talk to most of our friends most of the time. For a MMO, a "social" game by essence, I find it to be very problematic. It actually makes it difficult for us to keep in touch with others. The game made some people I know (very good friends) more apart than they were close, before the game started. Simply because they can't talk to each other, and spend a lot of time within the game. This decision to limit talking is bad, it needs to be reversed.

Being limited from chatting with friends for a HUGE part of the day makes this a very unsocial game. Its one of the reasons I find I am slowly moving away from the game, I don't want to necessarily party with all my friends at the same time but I would like the ability to be able to talk to them. I find I spend a lot of time roaming around doing the mundane daily stuff bored beyond belief because online buddies are in and out of dungeons etc.

Telling us it is to protect us from harrassment is a joke, every other game I play I can talk to my mates non stop and funny enough we don't get whisper spammed to the point it spoils the game for us. I hope they change their mind on this before I die of boredom and quit the game :D

Yes this should be fixed. Even in FFXI I can send tells while in instances. Salvage, Skirmish, Delve, Nyzul, BCNMs all instanced areas yet I can still send tells to people.

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Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath

I think the reason we can't send tells is because they don't allow cross server chat. When you use duty finder, you're actually put into a different server. I think that's why we can actually party up with people on other servers. Until they let cross server chat happen, i doubt they'll allow tells or whispers sadly. But i agree, it would be a nice feature.

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That wouldn't explain why you can't send tells to other people in the same instance as you. It's just SE having yet another case of the stupids.

seriously this shit is dumb and needs to happen already

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Originally Posted by Steeled

Edit: It's simple, give us three options -

1. Receive tells from friends while in dungeons? On by default.
2. Receive tells from party-mates while in dungeons? On by default.
3. Receive tells from anyone on your server while in dungeons. Off by default.

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Added this last night, I think this solves it.

Tells from friends and party members should be on by default because people won't even know its an option otherwise.
Tells from others should be off simply because of spammers.. and of course the random guy asking every whm online if they'll come heal his fight.

They are not going to add it in guys, it's too 'stressful'.

But don't worry, you'll get a long ass reply saying no to any request you make, followed by, "Sorry for any inconvenience, enjoy Eorzea!"

Quite annoying not being able to do send tells in there tbh. Turn it on plz.

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Originally Posted by peaches

being able to invite friends when someone drops out

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Honestly, I would rather have this than being able to send tells to people in a duty.

Bump to keep on front page again. Will continue until we get an update on the status of this.

The minimum would be to allow tell from people in your current party.
if you want to say something to a specific member without saying to the whole team, it's impossible
and this is pretty frustrating

The main frustration is they have come out and said they have masked the feature. Just renable it already and make this go away pleeeeeeease.

I made a big deal about this on the beta, the thread reached over 1k+ likes and they still shrugged it off.

I'm all for it about enabling tells in dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Steeled

Edit: It's simple, give us three options -

1. Receive tells from friends while in dungeons? On by default.
2. Receive tells from party-mates while in dungeons? On by default.
3. Receive tells from anyone on your server while in dungeons. Off by default.

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I think it was very clear why people in runs shouldn't be distracted or interrupted during a raid. I agree 100% do to the fact that people can hardly complete a run successfully even while focused but never listen to instructions becuz of IRL issues. Why add ingame distractions to the mix?

/say, /party, /free company and /linkshell chat channels are allowed so why complain?

I added this to the questions thread:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1545655

If you have a friend that you can count on to appear in a dungeon as a stopgap to fill a spot when someone leaves, have them on a linkshell or in your free company. Both those options work very well for me. Numerous times, someone has DCed or quit for whatever reason in a dungeon run and it's taken me all of 60 seconds to do a shout on my linkshells and FC to ask if someone can pinch hit, tell them which language to queue for as in progress, and they're in within seconds.