Pulling Aggro?

Ok I ask because I'm still fairly new and learning but here goes.

As a WHM in groups, I often find myself pulling aggro off of the tank whenever a boss spawn adds in the middle of a fight. Is this normal?

For example, let's talk about the slime boss from Wanderer's Palace...everything is good, I full up the tank right before adds come out, I make sure regen isn't up and there goes the add spawning, seems like the tank picked em up cause they're bashing on him. Alright good! So I let them bash on him a little more until he gets to roughly 50% HP or so, thinking he's got a good grip on the mobs I start casting a Cure with Divine Seal up. AS SOON AS THE CURE LANDS, ALL THE ADDS TURN AROUND TO KILL ME.

Am I doing something wrong? Is there something I could've done better? Is there something I simply don't understand? As far as I know this has been happening EVERYTIME.

I'll gladly accept any tips, thanks in advance.

Base threat when adds spawn go to tank but if he doesn't flash or attack them in anyway he will lose them right when you cure. Of course as a WHM you could just run onto Tank and use 2 holys to clear adds :D

If u get aggro from adds on this fight always run to middle, the tank will grab them with flash again and the DDs will AOE. Obviously things will be a lot easier if you use holy ;)

Yea I'm running to the middle near the tank, usually right behind the boss, or next to it, simply cause I don't want to risk getting in the conal flail ability. Eitherway, the problem is they aren't getting picked back up, neither by the DPS or the tank...I can't say this happens everytime, but it does pretty often.

I also can't say I tried using holy, but I definately will try it out next time. As far as wiping the adds with 2 Holy, I'm hugely doubting this...with my gear anyway, especially considering it takes me more than 2 holys to even kill the trash bugs that comes out of the Treasure Coffer in the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Sareal

As far as wiping the adds with 2 Holy, I'm hugely doubting this...with my gear anyway, especially considering it takes me more than 2 holys to even kill the trash bugs that comes out of the Treasure Coffer in the dungeon.

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Well... AF gear is pretty weak, but if u run to middle DDs can take care of them with some AOEs. U doing things right, pulling aggro (ADDS) happen a lot in this fight.

If you don't want aggro heal with stone skin as much as possible. Then when you have to cure do so. Just remember ST is not as efficient as a cure but if the tank has on part gear it is a cure II with 1\8 the threat.

I often find adds will decide to go for the healer first regardless of anything if the Tank doesn't do anything to them when they spawn. Even if i have nothing on the table i have had adds chase me. The tank attacking them tends to stop them in their tracks though. Most tanks are smart enough to pick them up at the start of the spawn so it shouldn't really be an issue.

For that WP boss it might be that the boss has targeted you? When that happens with adds up all the adds will instantly turn on you too. But really they should not be a problem for a White Mage you should WANT them to aggro on you. Before each add spawn make sure you have stoneskin on yourself and the tank then divine seal and regen on tank and yourself, Go into cleric stance and wait for adds. They will swarm you. Use Holy and it will stun them then just spam Holy a few times and they'll die while trying to break your stoneskin.

After they die use shroud to regen mana if you have a bard ask for their mana regen buff. Heal tank reapply stoneskin and rinse and repeat. Holy is so insane on the adds for that boss it destroys them.

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Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie

I often find adds will decide to go for the healer first regardless of anything if the Tank doesn't do anything to them when they spawn. Even if i have nothing on the table i have had adds chase me. The tank attacking them tends to stop them in their tracks though. Most tanks are smart enough to pick them up at the start of the spawn so it shouldn't really be an issue.

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I'm wondering if it's the buffs. Protect or Stoneskin, specifically. When our Warrior face pulls the adds in Twintania, Twintania itself will *always* go for me first.

When adds spawn during a boss fight and auto-attack the healer, I think it has something to do with aggro tables on a chain. When i'm tanking sometimes i notice that aggro has been given to the healer before the adds have even been fully spawned and clickable/tabbable. Like with Psychflare in AK, right as he is visible the red arrow is auto-targeted the healer even if i have no ST/Regen or any healing buffs. I don't believe your pulling aggro off the tank, its more like the games algorithm is just forcing aggro on you. As a tank i anticipate this and time all my flashes accordingly.

FYI, the conal flail move is only used when he "has eyes for someone". You don't have to worry about it otherwise.

It's "common" for healers to pull initial aggro on recently spawned adds simply because of how they work. There's always a chance you'll get a heal off at an inopportune time and grab aggro. This said, if you KNOW a boss spawns adds and you're either unable to or uncomfortable with stopping healing around that phase, make sure you have Shroud of Saints up to use in those situations. Also, run to/through your tank, so that the adds path towards him so he can pick them up. You shouldn't be -dying- to the adds in WP if your tank knows how to use Flash, but they may slap you once. If you're not chain-casting Divine Sealed Cure II's, your tank should be able to pull anything off of you that you accidentally grab with a wayward cure.

Thanks for all the tips everyone! Greatly appreciated, I've learned quite a few tricks.

I also have decided to work on my tank set and get some experience tanking...that way I'll be able to understand their perspective.