Quick Synthesis: Please Adjust!

SE please adjust the way Quick Synthesis works. Level 50 cook should be able to synth a level 3 synth all day long without fear of it breaking quick synthesis. If I do this manually not only is there not even the slightest chance it will fail I can also hq 100% of the time. I'm not asking for hq's I'm just asking that when I want to quick synth some table salt the first 2 don't break. Its ridiculous.

I'm in favor of this. I used to manually synth everything to ensure the 100% success rates, but it took so long I gave up, and now I allow for several fails when I calculate my costs to make said item. Very frustrating, they should make it so you have to be at least 11 levels above the recipe level to get the 100% success quick synth, because I'm sure we don't want people quick synthing anything 40+ at a 100% rate.

Quick Synthesis should look at your enabled skills. If you have Careful Synthesis (or Careful Synthesis 2) either because you are that class or because you have slotted it in as a cross class ability, then it should be using that rather than Basic Synthesis.

That said - Basic Synthesis has a 90% chance of success. That means, a 10% chance of failure. If the 40 Durability recipe takes one Basic Synthesis to complete, then Quick Synthesis should currently have four shots at finishing it successfully - and though not impossible, the odds of failing all four are 10% x 10% x 10% x 10% ... or 0.01%. We should not be failing more than one in one thousand if the Quick Synthesis is using Basic Synthesis and it only takes one to finish it.

even more annoying is fact that i can manually synth a stack faster then quick synth can and have no fails it seems to be setup completely to make ppl not use it so why even waste the time putting it in game?

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Originally Posted by Altismar

even more annoying is fact that i can manually synth a stack faster then quick synth can and have no fails it seems to be setup completely to make ppl not use it so why even waste the time putting it in game?

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So you can setup 100 synths of a basic component and go eat a sammich or something.

Personally I think the ability to essentially be able to afk and craft has to have some level of risk involved, regardless if you're synthing a level 2 or level 42 item. It's frustrating to see 2 fails in a row on something so low level, but over several synths it averages out. If you don't want to deal with the failures then just manually craft it as the poster above suggests.

I've learned my lesson. I'm better off synthesizing everything myself and take the extra time to HQ it. I'm trying to level up, and those HQ's give me up to 200% more EXP and gil during those leves. Screw Quick Synthesis; there more penalties than benefits to this system and should be upgraded or forgotten.

I use quick synthesis all of the time. Once you've hit lvl 50 in several crafts you no long need HQ mats at all, ESP for cooking where everything needs 6 ingredients, quick synth is amazing. I do it to set up 80-90 of each reagent so I can just macro synth my coil food whenever I've got free time here and there.

Really, it doesn't need to be changed at all. If the materials are worth so much you're worried about breaking them, then manually synth them. Time input vs reward.

i agree it should be changed
as it is the people that "cheat" and use macro's to craft for them, can set it up so they get 100% HQ items, when doing big batches of materials.
whereas the ones that do not cheat, get on average 1 HQ, 94 NQ, and 5 failures! from quick synthing something, that if we pressed 6 buttons would be 100% HQ.
this is a system that is crying out for people to cheat, which is not good

Macros have nothing to do with cheating, its just convenience. But yeah I hate the fails on NQ quicksynth also.

Not to get derail the topic, but... I would like to see them remove the quick synth limitation on 1-star items. I hate being forced to manually synth all of the materials.

I just wish it was faster. I wouldn't even mind if they made it so you got 0 exp from quick synth... And I don't mean ridiculously faster either, just lower the time delay in between. Why call it quick synth if it's not quick?

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Originally Posted by Mitski

Not to get derail the topic, but... I would like to see them remove the quick synth limitation on 1-star items. I hate being forced to manually synth all of the materials.

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Same here, 50 and geared for all crafts, but i buy my NQ 1 star mats (twintreads, nuggets etc) from other players pre-made, due to the time it takes to make a stack.

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Originally Posted by Makado

Macros have nothing to do with cheating, its just convenience. But yeah I hate the fails on NQ quicksynth also.

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so using a third party program, that can click the mouse to chose materials, and start the synth, then click the buttons you want, and repeat the process 100 or 1000 times.
In order to get 100% HQ items, instead of NQ like you do with quicksynth, is not cheaing? if that is the case then ill better look for a macro program.
but im 100% sure that you are wrong, can anyone confirm this either way?

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Originally Posted by donlep

so using a third party program, that can click the mouse to chose materials, and start the synth, then click the buttons you want, and repeat the process 100 or 1000 times.
In order to get 100% HQ items, instead of NQ like you do with quicksynth, is not cheaing? if that is the case then ill better look for a macro program.
but im 100% sure that you are wrong, can anyone confirm this either way?

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They mean in game macros, which are absolutely not cheating. The external ones are grey areas at best.

3rd party macro are cheating, but that is a totally separate issue.

im aware that the ingame macros are not cheating
but unless i have missed something, you cant make them repeat themselves, so you wont be able to make 100 HQ items using the ingame macro, unless you sit there and click 100 times, or have i missed something with the ingame macros?
the way i thought the ingame macros worked, i would have to chose materials every time, click synth every time, and then start the macro to do the actual crafting.
which would only give me one HQ item, so kinda pointless in my opinion, if i have to sit there for all 100 items, i can do the few clicks the macro does aswell, no problem.

i suspected that third party macros where cheating, which is why i dont have one, ill just click the 100 times myself, since i have nothing better to do with my time :)
but i wish games would allow better ingame macro's, what about all the people with programmable G14's, or whatever they are called, is that cheating aswell?

to long
anyway to get back on topic=p
they should improve the quicksynth, for items that are so far below your crafting skill, that it would be impossible to not get HQ, if you did the craft yourself.
That would lessen the advantage, that the third party macro cheaters have

I do agree with you and I would say 3rd party programmable keys are against the ToS too, I have a keyboard with keys that allow this, but do not use them.

If they were used just as macro's, i.e. the play still needs to press them, then I would not call it cheating, but a grey area at least.

Hmm I didn't know there are third party macro things. Im PS3 thought you meant just in game macros.