New Class Possibilities

So after the letters from the producers there is a goal to have each class have two Jobs and also the possibility for Jobs to require having multiple classes to level 50. Here is what I would expect to see and why.

Gladiator is going to get the Job of Redmage as a DPS and have a BLM/WHM requirement.

Marauder will get Dark Knight class and have a BLM requirement. They could bring in a Viking as well for a DPS class.

Pugilist would get a NIN and could be a tank, but most likely a DPS. Could also be a Thief but would guess based on weapon choice it being a NIN.

Archer would get Theif and would give them a knife as a off hand weapon. Another one to keep with the them of the world would be to be a DPS Job as a Gunner.

Lancer would probably be the hardest to have another class that uses lances. I would guess a tank class, but would guess as a DPS as something like a Beast master.

Archanist already has two classes but would hope for more options with the different summons to try and adjust to what the fights need.

Thaumaturge would get another DPS as a Blue Mage, but this could be another job for Gladiator as another Tank class.

Conjurer would be one that Geomancer would fit well with.

Other classes that would be fun to see would be the Onion Knight, Sage, Mystic Knight, Samurai. Some ideas might need a whole new class, but could also add job specific weapons to help ease the need to level a whole new class to max in the future.

I think the point is to give each class a job that is NOT its original intention. (e.g.: Arcanist-> SMN is DPS but Arcanist -> SCH is healing)
GLD-> RDM DPS + healing perhaps dot (ala Arcanist but single target) why?-> cause RDM uses a sword... duh and everyone and their mom wants it
MRD-> DRK DPS why? -> cause They use axes and making "Axes" that look like 2H-Swords or Scythes would just be an aestetic change
CNJ-> BST Pet Class (wait.. what?) they are already nature based... not hard to make happen or Geomancer (makes sense for the same reason)
ARC -> RNG could be Tank Pet Class
THM-> I could see Blue mage ala Strego but since they are already DPS I think they would want to make the second class Healer or Tank so not sure how that would work
LNC-> (Pole) Dancer. Im not even kidding here. Tank Class or interesting Melee Healer; could also do Samurai... would be a wierd choice thematically but Samurai use spears and katanas are two handed so not much change there... likely still a tank
MNK-> Hard one, right? I'm thinking ninja Blink Tank (Huh?!) well they could just make dual katanas a weapon that is essentially H2H... also stays with the Martial arts theme
I think you will see THF as a job on a new class like: Musketeer-> THF or COR
wouldn't mind seeing "Chemist" either. I know we have alchemist but it would be cool to have a job that actually uses the alchemy potions for stuff on a regular basis to give it a better market for sales. (basically using them instead of MP)

anyways... my musings as a game developer ^^b

Lancers =>Spartan? (spear + shield)

Spartan would be a tank.

Just throwing my ideas out there.

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Originally Posted by Kiyouma

Lancers =>Spartan? (spear + shield)

Spartan would be a tank.

Just throwing my ideas out there.

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if that job comes out someone will surely make a 300 man fc with all spartans as their jobs..

we already know for a fact the first class coming is musketeers.
we know for a fact Yoshi wants Thief->Ninja after that.
in others, be thankful, don't expect it.

LNC>DRG>SAM ( Samurai )
ARC>BRD>THF( Thief )
GLD>PLD>DRK ( Dark Knight )
MSK(Musketeer)>COR(Corsair)> ??
PUG>MNK>DNC (Dancer)
THM>BLM>BLU (Blue Mage)
CNJ>WHM>RDM (Red Mage)
MRD>WAR>BST (Beast Master)

other jobs classes Fencer witch could also be added to make RDM . Ninja witch could also make SAM or THF . Lots of choices lets wait and see :D

I think you mean new Jobs, OP. Classes are the base class, the thing you are when you don't have a soul crystal equipped.

Nit picking aside, I'm hoping a Puppetmaster in the same vein as the Puppetmaster from XI is given to the Pugilist (Puppetmasters in XI fought with hand-to-hand weapons, Mammets are the Automatons of XIV, and they're made by a join effort between the Alchemist and Goldsmithing Guild, which are both in Ul'dah along with the Pugilist guild). If anything comes out of the Conjurer, it should be the Geomancer, which just makes all kinds of sense. Since we know Musketeer is coming, I'm hoping with every onze in my body that the Corsair comes from it (Corsairs being pirates in XI, and Limsa Lominsa is THE pirate city of XIV).

And well... *coughPerformercough*... Because Thief is an iconic, classic Final Fantasy job, and those you get when you equip that soul crystal. It should never be what you tend to forget exists once you hit level 30. If anything, Thief and Ninja should be unique jobs that branch from the same base class.

I love making up stuff like this, we did a lot of posts in the beta forums about the possibilities.

Current classes:
GLD:PLD and Lunarian (DD job, heavily moon based in style, abilities lore)
MRD: WAR and Berserker (DD job, added enfeebling effects, focus on single target)
LNC: DRG and Comradier (DD job, similar to bard, can bring out extra abilities in other members by sacrificing some DD)
PUG: MNK and Black Belt (Tank job, focuses on defense like PLD)
ARC: BRD and Ranger (duh, straight up DD focused, most people are still unhappy with brd, even though its pretty good)
CNJ: Whm and Geomacer: (DD with elemental pets of water earth wind)
THM: BLM and Necromancer (DD with darkness minion, drains to heal party, and dark attacks)
ACN: SCH and SMN


The future holds other classes and jobs possibilites:
Musketeer DD with a heal and stat effects: with jobs "Corsair" and "puppetmaster" (Cor could be healer or DD with gambling buffs, and pup could also be either)
Flayer (whips) DD like blue mage: with jobs blue mage and Dancer (blue mage DD and Dancer healer)
Scout (dual blades) DD with stealth and positioning: with jobs NIN and THF (nin focuses on ninjuitsu and stealth/darkness can be DD or tank, thf focuses on steal/mug/sneak attack/evasion etc DD)
Fencer (degans/fleurets) DD that is magic based: with jobs RDM and MYS (red mage would be healer with damage potential, and mystic knight could be DD)
Breaker (hammers) all around DD: with jobs Freelancer and GRN (Freelancer would be tank, and green mage would be a buff focused healer)
Ronin (Large katana) Tank class: with jobs Samurai and Culler (Samurai could be DD or tank, and Culler could be a demon focused Tank)
Vagrant (Greatsword) DD class: with jobs Dark Knight and Rune knight (DRK would be DD and Rune knight would be tank)
Wilder (axes) DD class: with jobs BST and Technomancer (beastmaster is DD with pets and technomancer is job that harnesses allagan tech to enhance pt members and DD)

While I don't care if they do any of this they have soooo much freedom with the armory, they can do w/e they want, and bring out traditional FF jobs/class and invent whole new things.

Just wanna say that I hope Dual Wield is cross-class cause I REALLY wanna dual wield guns on Musketeer.

Dual Wielding guns while not the most accurate way to go still looks incredibly awesome.

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http://www.tokenfemalegamer.com/Word...alwielding.jpg

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Can I have it PLEASE! Two of my favorite characters ever!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...loefhiswyn.png >>>>> You need to come to Limsa more often :D

I think Ninja should never be a Tank. It contradicts that they're suppose to be stealthy assassins.

Necromancer can come from Ul'dah. Its lore with Sil'dah, and Black Mage storyline seems connected.

Server's down so might as well. BST and BLU coming from the same class (not sure on name of class yet). The class would have almost all of its abilities as monster summon instead of charming monsters out in the field. I feel that it should be this way because they would need to be able to have pets inside dungeons and I dont think it would be feasible to make sure each dungeon has monsters to tame and even then the class's repertoire would be totally dependent on the dungeon. I dont think we will be having jugs like in ffxi to summon pets for a time either because yoship seems to be reluctant on making pure combat players be reliant on crafters (2much stress) and it'll consume inventory slots if the class doesnt have a special inventory for it. So it would be something like, at lvl 1 the class would summon a marmot and then make the marmot use skills to fight, lvl 4 gain a spell to summon a bee, lvl 12 gain a spell to summon an opo2, with the monster going stronger as he levels up plus some pet support skills. Similar to a SMN i suppose, but full focus on pets instead of dots and pets.

Then at 30 it splits into BST or BLU. Beast master would be a tank class and gain abilities to enhance their pets. Stuff like a quick switch control where the player can control the pet before returning to his character control, pet stats enhancing, healing, enmity control (hopefully juggling and sharing instead of straight multiplier like pld and war for variety's sake), etc, hopefully becoming a much bet pet tanker than a smn with titan. He'd need to use his toughest pet if he want it to tank of course.

Blue mage will be a dps class. It will lose the class's summoning skills and gain blank spells. For example, if the blu presses an attack spell and then presses the class's wyrm summon spell, he will cast a fire breath. if he presses a marlboro summon spell, he casts bad breath instead. The BLU will have a blank attack, buff, debuff, heal spell (plus a long cooldown at 50) that can be mix and matched with the monster buttons to cast monster spells. Can be done in reverse where the blue mage would press a monster summon skill first to channel its spirit and then press his spell button to cast it.

Gladiator: Anyone who has seen Raubahn, knows he has a shield and 2 swords. A Myrmidon with dual wielding.

Marauder: Dark Knight, Mar regains hp and has a high hp pool. Dark knight would have a a high hp pool and use skills that burn hp to use.

Pugilist: Either a blink off tank or a support status effect class like dancer.

Archer: With the BRD nerf coming, the next step will be RNG which will have increased damage based on range and other factors.

Lancer: Centurion/Spartan Spear and shield off tank. With a unique set of skills similar to shield oath and sword oath.

Thaumaturge: Already has a decent damage dealer job, I think Red Mage will be the most likely candidate, using spells like En-element and Null-element. They will have to bring back elemental damage types.

Conjurer: Elementalist or Geomancer.

Just my thoughts as a person whose opinion is worth nothing on the internet.

Why is everyone saying DRK will come off MRD? I thought Yoshi already said it's planned to be GLA's secondary Job, as it's the virtual opposite to PLD (DD instead of tank) and compliments it well. And for that matter DRK has rarely relied upon great axes (although they could use some in FFXI, it wasn't their best weapon type), meaning DRK wouldn't suit MRD even more.

As for GLA/RDM GLA has no natural magic of it's own, save for Flash, it would have to be altered with secondary spells to lead into RDM, meaning existing abilities would have to be scrapped - it's just too much of a problem.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

I think Ninja should never be a Tank. It contradicts that they're suppose to be stealthy assassins.

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Ninja was pretty much forced into the tank spot by players due to their Utsusemi spell line and because Paladin was the only effective tank at the time RotZ came out.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Why is everyone saying DRK will come off MRD? I thought Yoshi already said it's planned to be GLA's secondary Job, as it's the virtual opposite to PLD (DD instead of tank). Besides, as GLA has no natural magic of it's own, save for Flash, how would it be explained away that suddenly they gain a ton of spells? And for that matter DRK has rarely relied upon great axes (although they could use some in FFXI, it wasn't their best weapon type).

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Its that little kid in people that want to play a full fledged DD and smack things around with a big weapon. And there's nothing wrong with that.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Why is everyone saying DRK will come off MRD? I thought Yoshi already said it's planned to be GLA's secondary Job, as it's the virtual opposite to PLD (DD instead of tank) and compliments it well. And for that matter DRK has rarely relied upon great axes (although they could use some in FFXI, it wasn't their best weapon type), meaning DRK wouldn't suit MRD even more.

As for GLA/RDM GLA has no natural magic of it's own, save for Flash, it would have to be altered with secondary spells to lead into RDM, meaning existing abilities would have to be scrapped

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Allowing the use of additional magic after a certain level is no more of a problem then adding a bunch of healing abilities after level 30 (SCH).

Yoshi never said DRK would come from GLA, just that he wanted to do it. It would make very little sense to do given that the only other dual job we have seen shares the same weapon type. This is much easier to program AND to model.

I actually want to see a DRK come from GLA and wield one handed swords with no shields. Like dissidia Cecil's design. Granted, he wields it like a two hander iirc, but it was pretty much a short pointy stick. Can just turn halone combo's enmity into extra damage (at the cost of hp?).

The rest would be drk skills costing mp (hp drain attacks to compensate for halone's hp cost?) with riot blade to keep mp up plus a new finisher for the riot blade line.To make it even more suicidal like the typical DRK, make the 3rd attack after riot really desirable but add a position requirement...from the front. DRK's death rate should give arr's dragoons a run for their money.