What's my name again?

So this may be an odd first post for me to make but it's something I find interesting. I have played lots of mmos over the years and while every one has lots of interesting people I have never run into so many that don't use anyones characters name. I am almost always referred to as whm. While I understand in 8 player raids or more where there could be more than one whm it doesn't always matter to specify which whm you are talking to but I'm really just talking about light groups. I am not really interested in the roleplay aspect or immersion into the game. Really my only gripe, I just wonder why people don't like using names any more?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that gets miffed by this. Come on, there's only one person here who is a 'war', do you really have to be so cold?! I always make it a point to call people by their names rather than class, as this just seems kinda rude to me.

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Originally Posted by RaidersMan09

I just wonder why people don't like using names any more?

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Because whatever is being said is usually something relevant to your job, and with 7 other people there with other names you don't know, it's faster to say the whm, than your name. If you're the only whm in the group everyone will immediately know who they are talking about, rather than looking through their list. We're only talking about a difference in fractions of a second, but yea, at least that's why I do it.

I get called Heals.
I hate it lmfao.

I call people by name in 4 man.
8 man by Job. Sorry, I ain't got time to being all formal y'know lol.
Especially with me small ass TV I can't see well lol.

I get called Heals at times too lmao

There are certain things the have always annoyed me, like when someone refers to a female character as "him". But in this case, I can't agree with you guys.

In group play, people use the job abbreviations for tactical instruction, not social purposes. The strategy that they are trying to employ is likely a broad concept that isn't specific to a certain person or even the job. And considering how every boss in this game has a strategy to it, people tend to explain these things often. Typing out the broad concept makes more sense, rather than trying to address everyone by name.

In Military, they will address people by rank. Your commanding officer isn't going to walk around calling every soldier by their name.

I try to use people's name but don't always do it. Mostly depends on the situation. If there is little time to type, chances are I'll abbreviate, call you by your class or give you a nickname.
Also, if you have a long name and or something that I find to be taxing, odds are that I'll just type the first 3-4 letters at best. I've yet to have any complaints. If no one complains, I keep doing what I'm doing.

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Originally Posted by Synra

There are certain things the have always annoyed me, like when someone refers to a female character as "him".

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I do this because most female characters are played by a male. As I am talking to the player and not the character I refer to the person by their gender.

crap 1st post "OP".. get it? nooo..? k bye

It takes less time to use shorthand whenever possible when you're using a virtual keyboard. Could also be a macro and therefore makes more sense to use a generic label that can be applied across many groups.

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Originally Posted by Synra

There are certain things the have always annoyed me, like when someone refers to a female character as "him". But in this case, I can't agree with you guys.

In group play, people use the job abbreviations for tactical instruction, not social purposes. The strategy that they are trying to employ is likely a broad concept that isn't specific to a certain person or even the job. And considering how every boss in this game has a strategy to it, people tend to explain these things often. Typing out the broad concept makes more sense, rather than trying to address everyone by name.

In Military, they will address people by rank. Your commanding officer isn't going to walk around calling every soldier by their name.

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but that doesn't explain why it's not happening in any other games ever. I don't remember ever being called 'mini/minstrel' in lotro (though people did call me 'the hobbit' hehehe) and I certainly am not called 'the scoundrel' in swtor. I'm not called 'shotgun/fists' in TSW and I also don't remember being called 'priest' in the countless MMOs where that's the healing class. and if my memory doesn't fail me, people in FFXI didn't call me 'whitemage' either.

I think it's a different reason: the names showing in the party frame and turning off name plates. I have done that. (though I have to say I still make sure I know my party members' names)

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Originally Posted by Aleksandr

I do this because most female characters are played by a male. As I am talking to the player and not the character I refer to the person by their gender.

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and you know this because?
(I sincerely hope you call me 'she' when I play my male characters, even though you have zero indicators about my real gender)

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Originally Posted by Arriverderci

I get called Heals.
I hate it lmfao.

I call people by name in 4 man.
8 man by Job. Sorry, I ain't got time to being all formal y'know lol.
Especially with me small ass TV I can't see well lol.

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8 man i can see not using their names. Although when you have multiple's of the same job I think that would be rather confusing. Besides it takes the same amount of time to type in (examples of people who have posted in this thread) Nyo, Noe, Fey, Nim, Jin, Amy............as it does their job abbrev's. I feel like now a days people lost the human factor. We aren't playing as a community, but rather as a job in a game. Besides, it avoids the using of "her", "he" which could possibly be offensive if a guy is playing a female character or the other way around.

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Originally Posted by Synra

In Military, they will address people by rank. Your commanding officer isn't going to walk around calling every soldier by their name.

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Not touching the rest of your post, but a squad leader in charge of three people would most certainly use names. Especially since it's likely that at least two have the same rank. A company commander would use both rank and name 99 times of out 100.

I get called poet. I'm not sure what the big deal is, considering some people have longer names and it's just easier to type the class acronym.

If people in your FC/friends list are calling you WHM, then I see your point.

Don't have time to say your name while in battle.

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Originally Posted by Sephirah

Because whatever is being said is usually something relevant to your job, and with 7 other people there with other names you don't know, it's faster to say the whm, than your name. If you're the only whm in the group everyone will immediately know who they are talking about, rather than looking through their list. We're only talking about a difference in fractions of a second, but yea, at least that's why I do it.

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^ in a light pt it is easy to call out jos than name, also I am advoide getting friendly with ppl I dont know by use their name (DF)

Personally I don't like being called 'heals' or '<job>' either and use people's names myself, if you really want to get your message across you should use their names, be respectful. Same as irl, you don't go about saying 'Hey, human, do this.' or 'Hey, <job>, do that.', that would be really weird... and usually those who make up some kind of names for people tend to be assholes. :P
And in case if you don't know the player behind a character, either refer to the character or use 'they' instead of 'he', don't be rude.

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

Personally I don't like being called 'heals' or '<job>' either and use people's names myself, if you really want to get your message across you should use their names, be respectful. Same as irl, you don't go about saying 'Hey, human, do this.' or 'Hey, <job>, do that.', that would be really weird... and usually those who make up some kind of names for people tend to be assholes. :P
And in case if you don't know the player behind a character, either refer to the character or use 'they' instead of 'he', don't be rude.

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This is a video game, not the real world. "SMN" is good enough when I need to tell you to use LB on something. If you want me to call you Aissy, you should take the time to befriend me and make the relationship more than just two strangers in a dungeon run.

I must confess this has never bothered me and it has never even occurred to me that it might bother someone else.

I would find someone calling me by an abbreviated version of my name without my authorisation to be far more offensive.

It's the equivalent of

A: "What's your name, son?"
B: "David Smith"
A: "Well, Dave - do you mind if I call you Dave?"
B: "Well..."
A: "Great! Well, Davey.."
B: "Davey?"
A: "D-Dog! the Davester!"

etc etc.

It's just a lot easier in the middle of a DF run to call out a job role. It has a three letter abbreviation that is understood by everyone in the party, it's even in autotranslate. WAR{tab} is a lot faster to type out than "O'Hizgledred Binglybop". If you are offended, fine, that's your right. But the person hasn't done anything unreasonable or rude.

because you're playing with random guys instead of FC/LS friends. your friends will call your name, not your job or your appearance.

in real life, your friends call your name, strangers call you mr.lawyer, doctor, mr.red shirt, etc.

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Originally Posted by Aegis

"O'Hizgledred Binglybop"

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I may have to make that name if it fits.

Either way,f or me, it depends. If I'm mid-fight, there's no way I'm typing out whole names if I need to get a point across. I don't type fast enough to justify it.

I'm always referred to by name :'D Sometimes in 8 man speed runs they'd call me "BLM" but then there'd always be another BLM in the group so it's like "OK...well...we'll both do it, eh?" But never been referred to "SMN" when on my SMN, it's always "Aylin" :'D
In an FC I was in I even gained a nickname which everyone used instead...

I always get referred to as him, and it's probably really annoying but I always correct them. It's just weird being referred to as a guy :|

I try my best to call people by name. I may shorten it down, for example, if the person is called Alexander, I'll call them Alex. Easier to type out.

The game already gives you the names, so I always use them. I think it's rude to call someone by their job or class.

Anyway, it's rare for me to be called "blm" or "sch" here. In WoW I don't think I've ever been called by name, even when "pally" is longer than it.

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Originally Posted by RaidersMan09

So this may be an odd first post for me to make but it's something I find interesting. I have played lots of mmos over the years and while every one has lots of interesting people I have never run into so many that don't use anyones characters name. I am almost always referred to as whm. While I understand in 8 player raids or more where there could be more than one whm it doesn't always matter to specify which whm you are talking to but I'm really just talking about light groups. I am not really interested in the roleplay aspect or immersion into the game. Really my only gripe, I just wonder why people don't like using names any more?

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Hey Summoner, too many words.

J I N is closer together than B L M, so there's is no reason excuse to say blm when Jin is faster to type.

Honestly if someone is gonna call me by my job/class by all means say Red Wizard! :3

I always found it strange people refer by job abbreviations in this game but can understand it because parties are fleeting acquaintances compared to FF11. Then again, because the relationship is fleeting, I suppose they don't know you, and so using your job title is the equivalent of say Sir or Ma'm in RL

In 11, people would more commonly refer to people by nicknames or by the first syllable of their name.

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

J I N is closer together than B L M, so there's is no reason excuse to say blm when Jin is faster to type.

Honestly if someone is gonna call me by my job/class by all means say Red Wizard! :3

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haha exactly !

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Originally Posted by Altanas

I always found it strange people refer by job abbreviations in this game but can understand it because parties are fleeting acquaintances compared to FF11. Then again, because the relationship is fleeting, I suppose they don't know you, and so using your job title is the equivalent of say Sir or Ma'm in RL

In 11, people would more commonly refer to people by nicknames or by the first syllable of their name.

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I think we are all finding out that this community is the complete opposite of 11. If I could have anything in ARR from 11, it would be the community style. But times have changed! A whole new generation is playing mmo's now a days compared to us 2002 ffxi'ers

People choose weird things to give a crap about.

Well people calling me by my job isn't annoying me at all.

Why ? Because im only ok with friends and FC using my name.
I don't like when PUG players call me by my name because it sets some kind of proximity i certainly don't want to have with them.

When im in DF or whatever with people i don't know, im random to them and theyre random to me. Calling people by their jobs is a way to keep some distance. Strategy wise we're only jobs anyway.


PS: What annoys me above all, is when some random guys talk to me as if we were friends. I just want to tell them to f*ck off.
But... I don't because im not that rude, not every time at least.

I don't care if people call me WHM or Heals, I'm used to it.

My FC calls me by my name.

If I'm in combat in a pug, I can type out "drg lb" a lot faster than I can try to spell his long anime name. I have no care what pugs refer to me as, my e-feelings will be fine.

I do have a tank friend that types out everyone's first and last name, capitalized properly, when addressing them even in dungeons. I find that a bit odd to be honest ♥

If they don't call me by my full name "Dyrstahl Hortahtynsyn" I stop tanking.

Depends of the name, if you have a weird name or its hard to write it then youre not gonna be called by your name.

I am called "MEL" all the time, i am never refered to as Monk.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I validate someone's name choice of, 'Chloud' or 'Sephyroth' :p

It doesn't really bother me if I'm referred to as my job, but I do make a point of referring to everyone I group with by their character names. It fosters a more friendly party environment in my experience.

Doesn't bother me if people call me Tank, Pld, Heal, Whm, or whatever. However, I do make a point to call people by their first names, unless I'm stressed and need to quickly convey something in chat (BLM LB!). It's what I consider common courtesy, I suppose. :p

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Originally Posted by amnie

and you know this because?
(I sincerely hope you call me 'she' when I play my male characters, even though you have zero indicators about my real gender)

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So much of this. Encounter way too many "GURLS DUNT PLAY GARMES!" him/he/his. Doesn't drive me nuts or anything (There's a guy in my FC I always accidentally call her 'cause of the character name) but it does seem a little ignorant

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Originally Posted by eyloi

This is a video game, not the real world. "SMN" is good enough when I need to tell you to use LB on something. If you want me to call you Aissy, you should take the time to befriend me and make the relationship more than just two strangers in a dungeon run.

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So, stepping into the video game world you're one of those who let all manners outside, eh?

And really... if you don't have time to press 2 more keys (1 extra second?), why do you think the other person has time to look on the chat window and read what you typed?
It might be just me but mostly when glancing over the chat 'aissy' catches my attention much better than 'sch'... no, I do not play a summoner. :p Besides, I was mainly referring to situations when time is not of essence.

In FFXIV I prefer people in instances call me WHM. So much more disorienting when people try to get chummy while telling me how to play my class.

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Originally Posted by eyloi

This is a video game, not the real world. "SMN" is good enough when I need to tell you to use LB on something. If you want me to call you Aissy, you should take the time to befriend me and make the relationship more than just two strangers in a dungeon run.

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Going to agree with this one.

If I start calling people by name, its because I built some kind of friendship/relationship with them. If we're going to be in a party and only talk about battle tactics, to then never see you again or talk to you again... Then yea, job title suffices.

I think the point of this thread though is for people to be more personal in their MMO affairs though. So if you want people to call you by name, try being more personal toward them ^^

I ignore people when they refer to me as my job lol. Cesil isn't that hard to type, come on -_-