So after looking online I’m a bit confused on what our actual bis stat priorities are. A number crunching thread I found said the ratio for int/det is roughly 1:4 and int/crit is roughly 1:6, which would lead me to prioritize det. However, the other bis threads I found typically prioritized crit over det. I’m thinking of opting for the det route since that means I only need to buy af1 pants/gloves, and get helm/boots from t1-2 (already have bp and ring). Any thoughts?
Summoner bis and stat prioritization...
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10-30-2013, 03:37 AMhoraiyoSummoner bis and stat prioritization...
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10-30-2013, 04:01 AMShamirah
Mmmh... i would say... crit.
Af head, chest, gloves. -
10-30-2013, 04:16 AMparadigmfellow
I have yet to see anyone say Det is better. Although I would like to believe so, but apparently our critical hits, on average, does more damage than the gains from det. I am going with AF2 Body and Head, Hero's accessories (except rings, the ring focuses on spell speed which is the same as allagan), and Allagan for feet, waist, hands, and legs.
I read that the order should be,
Critical>Det>ACC>Speed.
By the way, make sure you upgrade your relic to +1. The gains from that upgrade is greater than from any other lvl 90 gear. -
10-30-2013, 04:20 AMglimI have yet to see anyone say det is better than acc = /Quote:
Originally Posted by paradigmfellow
even for crit. -
10-30-2013, 04:30 AMparadigmfellowThis is one source that actually says that Det and ACC are of equal importance.Quote:
Originally Posted by glim
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/118...rt-of-in-depth -
10-30-2013, 05:00 AMglimyep, I went ahead to check on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradigmfellow
the person who made the guide mentioned this "SMN: Weapon damage > INT > Crit > VIT? > Determination/Accuracy"
but afterwards also mentions this "*~432? accuracy for Binding Coil."
he's telling you that accuracy's value is low, but at the same time he's telling you to gear for it too -_- which is it?
maybe what he meant is something like this "acc (until cap) > crit > det etc etc." -
10-30-2013, 09:18 AMSeobit
If you want perfect hit rate as a summoner in coil you need at least 443 accuracy for garuda, and she isn't affected by food either so that's 443 without food.
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10-30-2013, 09:24 AMRyuko
Personally, I aim for Crit > Acc > Det > Speed. You need a decent amount of accuracy to hit things in coil, and I am currently below wherever I think I should be. The reason for this is the 'gap' between Darklight and Allagan/AFv2. There is a big difference between iLevel 70 and iLevel 90 gear. You really have to be critical about what pieces you choose to get as you only have a limited amount of myth per week.
Using this 'formula', you can pick the 'best in slot' items as they are available. Unfortunately, you might not get lucky with drops. Some examples: I personally think the Summoner's Horn is 'best in slot' because it has both Crit and Acc. The Allagan headpiece, on the other hand, has Acc + det, which I do not prioritize as highly. You may notice I am using the Summoner's feet (Acc+Spellspeed), which isn't ideal. The Allagan boots have Crit+Acc. I would prefer the Allagan boots... if I could ever have them to drop for me! -
10-30-2013, 06:26 PMStarkbeaumontwhy does garuda need 6 more acc than any other mage? o.oQuote:
Originally Posted by Seobit
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10-30-2013, 11:36 PMparadigmfellowQuote:
Originally Posted by glim
I agree with what you said. -
10-30-2013, 11:41 PMparadigmfellowQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryuko
The drop rate and the reset time is on par with mythos reset. Although, I have seen players get lucky and have full Allagan armor. I am grateful that I got my first Allagan piece yesterday. -
10-30-2013, 11:54 PMhoraiyo
Hm, well that changes my gearing plan a bit but not by too much. I'm figuring I'll go for af helm/gloves/neck/wrist/ring and allaghan belt/pants/boots/earrings/ring(have). Chest, I think I'll just use my allaghan one for now and upgrade to af after I've purchased my other pieces.
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10-31-2013, 02:00 AMparadigmfellowQuote:
Originally Posted by horaiyo
Lucky! I want the body for my BLM once I get him to 50. The decision to go with the AF2 gloves based on the fact that you have allegan body? -
10-31-2013, 04:08 AMhoraiyo
Actually I was just trying to figure out the best way to make sure my accuracy is around the 430 mark. I was tinkering with a spreadsheet comparing my current and projected item setup and accuracy by piece/total, and AF gloves seemed like a better choice than allaghan to that end. With that setup, I should be at 427, so eggs should put me at or close to 100% hit rate. It does kind of bug me that aesthetically the af gloves don’t match up with the allaghan stuff though. :b
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10-31-2013, 04:40 AMPerne
I was trying to sort this out as well, but can't seem to find a clear consensus on this. I Ran Binding Coil last night with my Acc at 392, and only missed 1 time. So I'm wondering how much we can skate by with if one was feeling brave. I also heard that the Acc requirement jumps up a bit with each turn, is anybody sure that's true?
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10-31-2013, 06:14 AMparadigmfellowI ran turn 1-3 last night and my Miasma 1 missed quit a bit on Caduceus. However, my acc was at 381. After the fight I was greeted with the Allagan ring. I equipped the ring and my ACC is now at 392. I rarely missed Miasma on ADS, I think I only missed once. Hopefully, I can run turn 4 today and see how I do there.Quote:
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10-31-2013, 06:56 AMhoraiyo
I did some t4 runs last week at 396+eggs and I don’t think I missed very many spells, but I wasn’t really paying attention either. However, I did start using cabbage instead of eggs to offset my low accuracy to be on the safe side (once I upgrade the stupid demagogue belt I'll be at 401+cabbage).
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10-31-2013, 02:13 PMTinytoes
Got a question not sure if this is the place to post. I'll ask anyway Vanya casting hat and casting gloves what would be the best gems to put in them? I have looked and asked around but I failed to find out what. Any help would be loved THANKS!!
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10-31-2013, 02:38 PMRyukoI've yet to get any drops, but I'm not really complaining. As long as people I run with are getting geared, we'll all improve as a group. If I was forced to get full AFv2 and Hero's gear (assuming my luck was really THAT terrible), it would still be passable for the hardest content currently available... just not ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradigmfellow
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10-31-2013, 05:13 PMSolarMisaeI also would like to know what the best melds are for the Vanya chest piece for SMN. :]Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinytoes