Do you want Crafting to be like WOW levels up based on points system instead of exp?

I personaly do i know its easy to cap a crafting in ffxiv with triple leve quests in the period of 1 or 2 days so i dont see the point in the time sink with exp leveling where u can level with point systems like in wow and cap faster than wait for allowance to fill up and cap 2-3 craftings in few days

No. These are classes not just a craft you take. Doesn't make sense to make it like WoW.

I do not want to see any changes to the crafting system, personally I think it's great the way it is. I was never a huge fan of the wow crafting system or wow in general myself. The current system gives me something to do while I wait for more content to be added and the more crafts you get to 50, the easier it all becomes, which I think is great.

I really like the crafting system. I like how if you push yourself to get the best crafting gear and cross class abilities you can HQ nearly every time. You might be able to level fast but you still need to work on keeping up your gear to reliably HQ and thus minimise leve allowance expenditure.

I have never played WoW and have no idea how crafting works and can't deduce much from that post. You get some kind of points and it gives you levels? If that's the case then no thanks.

no, I hated skill up points for crafts in FFXI. They took so long to level up in the higher levels. I rather not relive that again.

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I want crafting to stay just the way it is.

God NO. SE love of the RNG would kill crafting. Crafting is fine the way it is right now. If anything it's the
one thing they got right.

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no, I hated skill up points for crafts in FFXI. They took so long to level up in the higher levels. I rather not relive that again.

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Oh OP means points like 0.1 of a level for doing synths? Yeah still no, never got past about 90 goldsmith in XI, and many later synths were pure loss. Current system rewards you for making extra effort, and those moments after I log in and can be getting 400% exp bonuses on synths is satisfying (Max HQ benefit, GC book bonus and rested exp ;) ).

Doesn't seem like you're asking for it to be faster to level overall, since you state it's quick as it is. Not sure what the benefit would be. Think it looks nice and coherent to have the crafts as classes with ordinary levels and gearing is fun.

Great the way it is, definitely the best crafting out of any game I tried.

The crafting system in ARR is best i have seen. Doesnt need such change.

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Originally Posted by realmreborn

I personaly do i know its easy to cap a crafting in ffxiv with triple leve quests in the period of 1 or 2 days so i dont see the point in the time sink with exp leveling where u can level with point systems like in wow and cap faster than wait for allowance to fill up and cap 2-3 craftings in few days

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Do you also want a point system for DoM and DoW?
Aren't exp points?

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Originally Posted by realmreborn

I personaly do i know its easy to cap a crafting in ffxiv with triple leve quests in the period of 1 or 2 days so i dont see the point in the time sink with exp leveling where u can level with point systems like in wow and cap faster than wait for allowance to fill up and cap 2-3 craftings in few days

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Stop tuning this game into WoW cline. WoW crafting system is boring and useless.

I have never played WoW so i'm not sure of their crafting system, however i feel the crafting system in FFXIV is the best crafting system i've ever played. That's why weaver is my only level 50. It's more enjoyable to me than the combat classes. :)

FFXIV is kinda neat that it uses exp because then we get the leve quests that really helps leveling. WoW's was kinda mindless, just enter the amount of items and push button, wee. The only thing about wows crafting I would like (but not nessessary for sure) is mebe some rare patterns or recipies drop in dungeons or difficult quests for rare item plans and thats it, NOTHING else from that which hence forth shall not be mentioned by meh ever again! ; )

I like the crafting system the way it is except for gathering classes. I do not think they should be classes and think I should be able to mind or harvest stuff as my battle class (e.g. Warrior or Paladin). I also think skinning should be in the game so we can skin leather based mobs we kill for their skins for leatherworking instead of running AK and hoping to get a bunch of them.

I never played WoW, was it really that similar to FFXIV? Because all I see on these forums are comments to do with WoW...

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Originally Posted by Ryios

I like the crafting system the way it is except for gathering classes. I do not think they should be classes and think I should be able to mind or harvest stuff as my battle class (e.g. Warrior or Paladin). I also think skinning should be in the game so we can skin leather based mobs we kill for their skins for leatherworking instead of running AK and hoping to get a bunch of them.

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I don't know, I'm not big on the whole looting corpses. your right there need to be a more direct way to obtain some items.
I would like to see the Shepherds class finally introduced instead of doing away with the Other harvesting classes.

FFXIV has the best crafting system on any MMO I have tried so far, let it remain as is, its perfect.

no. just no.

No. Why would you want this? WoW's crafting is a complete waste of space and a good example of what not to do.

Absolutely Not! Don't want crafting to become an over simplified after thought, just tagged onto the game, as it feels with some of the other MMO's out there.

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I personaly do i know its easy to cap a crafting in ffxiv with triple leve quests in the period of 1 or 2 days so i dont see the point in the time sink with exp leveling where u can level with point systems like in wow and cap faster than wait for allowance to fill up and cap 2-3 craftings in few days

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Oh God, no. Grinding from orange to yellow, rinse and repeat. That's not a way to make a crafting system. FFXIV got it right the first time. It made crafting into a strategic minigame that challenges you to see how well you can craft soomething and rewards you for doing it well.

You want to make crafting challenging, don't do crafting dailys, makes it last longer

For those confused, Ill try to describe what he wants to turn our crafting classes into.

In WoW, Crafts are Professions any class may take, but only 2 of ANY combination of profession (gathering/crafting)
So you go to the Trainer NPC and buy Rank 1 for whatever craft you want to learn, then buy ALL the associated recipes individually, but only the Rank 1 ones.
Each profession has, i think its up to 575 now? ill set it to the last time i cared, which was 425. Now, its something like, 75-150-225-300 etc, you have to buy a new rank, then you must again purchase from the trainer all the recipes for that rank.
Secondly, to level it, you have 4 'stages' of color on any given recipe.
-Grey = No chance of skill up.
-Green = 25% chance to skill up.
-Yellow = 50% chance to skill up.
-Orange = 100% (this may have changed, i think it was 75% waaay back in the day) chance to skill up.
These days, some recipes that are "hard" (read: takes an absurd amount of mats to make) now give multiple skill ups. Recipes will generaly shift to a lower color every 5 or so skill ups you gain. Eventually all will be grey and you will be forced to make Epics to get skill ups.
Imagine trying to get from 40 - 50 in XIV on Vanya/Darksteel/Rose Gold alone, lol.

So now you take the mats for your recipe, click the recipe you want to make, click Create, twiddle your thumbs for a few seconds and DING! out pops your item. Based on the aforementioned color scale, you will now receive (or not) a skill point.

And thats WoW crafting. Oh and i should also mention that lately its now possible for some few recipes that pop out a Green (uncommon) item, may turn out blue (Superior), kind of like our HQ system but super incredibly RNG, but for very specific leveling recipes only, for gear that is quite worthless.
Which is something else i should point out, the crap you make with WoW crafts, is just vendor trash except the very high max cap purple recipes. So have fun churning out a million crappy hats for the vendor to get your 10 skill ups.

And a short note on Gathering Professions in WoW.
1: Take Mining pick into inventory.
2: Turn on mineral finder.
3: run around in circles until a yellow dot appears on your minimap.
4: run to, and try to click the node. OH NO! that guy on a 310% speed flying dragon drops out of nowhere and takes your node!
5: repeat steps 3 and 4.
Because all nodes are one time only, first come first serve. (respawns on timers)

Now, assuming you ever managed to get to a Node, i shall explain what happens.
1: Left click node. Twiddle thumbs during the 2 second channel.
2: Hope the RNG gods saw fit to provide you with something other than a couple of rocks.
3: find a new node.
Use the crafting color scale to determine if you would have a chance to level up. Same Rank X purchasing system as crafting too.

And thats what this guy wants.

Why? It's not needed.

Crafting is just fine as it is. If I wanted the crafting game from some other MMO, I'd be giving them my monthly fee.

One of the things I like best about this game is that crafts are actual legitimate classes, not just secondary side professions. I get that the hardcore raiders may see crafting as boring and (if they choose to level any) a chore, but there are plenty of players who enjoy crafting simply because they find it fun.

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Originally Posted by realmreborn

Do you want Crafting to be like WOW levels up based on points system instead of exp?

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HELL NO!!!

Yeah, no thanks. I like the crafting the way it is. It's unique and requires strategy and attention. Why would you take the only thing in the game that doesn't completely rip off other MMOs and change it so that it rips off other MMOs? And in a way inferior to the way that it already is.

I don't mind either system, but I do think crafting needs to stop letting you turn in HQ market board items to complete quests. It just doesn't make sense to gain crafting XP for something that the player didn't craft.

Sign me up for the nope group... the only thing I would like to see done with it is make it a tad more useful end game.