Turn 4 DoTs

I saw that there is another post on this topic but there seem to be no answers in that post. I am wondering if it is intentional for the clockwork soldiers to take 0 damage from DoTs. They are supposed to be burned down by the mages and it is annoying that my dots do 0 damage and i can only ruin spam and get some fester damage in when my dots should also be wrecking them. I do great damage on all the other stuff in this turn and the tank runs parsers and says I am either top or second to the blm but I know I could do more if my dots actually worked on them. Am I doing something wrong?

Did u try get the stoneskin on it off? It fast if 2 physical dd deal to it 3k damage or so. Once stone skin off it won't move ur hit u n I think that's when dots start to work. For me when I use smn it been fine so far. But I think the dots count to physical if it's doing 0 when stone skin up

No ability lands it's special properties when it's eaten by Stoneskin, yeah.
If a monk hits something that has Stoneskin his Form won't change either :/
Your DoTs don't apply, Heavy Thrust's buff doesn't happens, Rain of Death's debuff doesn't procs
Basically if you hit Stoneskin and don't break it nothing works.

Yeah I do fine as well it just annoys me that the dots do 0 they should count as magic damage our melee are always busy killing the knights so the SS never gets broken

They just need spend a few second on soldier. Is not that long. I went as drg b4 n did 1 full thrust combo then jump to knight. With the other physical dd hit it b4 knight. It is fast n keep soldier frm doing any damage to party.

what? dots tick zero damage on soldiers? this I did not know, and I've been clearing turn four for quite a while now... now I feel dumb dotting up both soldiers when they spawn.

also OP, tell your tank that parsers are terrible for summoners, as in literally making us look bad. why?

parsers doesn't track shadowflare.
parsers doesn't track dots extended by contagion (parser acts as if there are no dots on the target)
parsers doesn't track MULTI DOTS OR BANE (this one is big on turn 4, as most of your damage comes from multi dots and bane)
parsers doesn't track dots empowered by raging strikes (acts as if the dot doesn't have any power ups on them)
parsers doesn't track dots that crit

don't believe me? try it. it takes literally 3-5 minutes to test these things on a target dummy.

Yeah, stoneskin making DoT's useless is another ridiculous oversight.

Where the hell are their playtesters. This why I hated when they went ahead and released the classes without beta testing.

By the way, when the enemy has a pre-existing DoT and it gains Stoneskin yeah, the DoTs will do 0 damage, HOWEVER
That is because Stoneskin is absorbing their damage like it absorbs all damage, it is still dealing damage, to Stoneskin's additional HP pool

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Originally Posted by glim

also OP, tell your tank that parsers are terrible for summoners, as in literally making us look bad. why?

parsers doesn't track shadowflare.
parsers doesn't track dots extended by contagion (parser acts as if there are no dots on the target)
parsers doesn't track MULTI DOTS OR BANE (this one is big on turn 4, as most of your damage comes from multi dots and bane)
parsers doesn't track dots empowered by raging strikes (acts as if the dot doesn't have any power ups on them)
parsers doesn't track dots that crit

don't believe me? try it. it takes literally 3-5 minutes to test these things on a target dummy.

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It doesn't? We had a SMN in our raid for about a week and everytime s/he got top DPS (it was about the same as everyone elses but the Garuda-Egi giving it about 40~50 more is what made the SMN top DPS), but the SMN's dps being on average to everyone else seemed pretty right to me.

I heard it was an issue early on but I thought they fixed that.

Even if it's from a magical source, soldier SS will absorb DoT as though it were physical damage (0 damage = damage absorbed by SS).

Funny side note: soldier SS won't absorb damage from a melee DPS limit break. It's not that LB busts through the SS and does damage, rather it completely bypasses the SS and deals full damage while leaving the soldier SS intact.

So magical DoTs are physical damage, and physical limit breaks are magical damage. The Allagans were a strange people.

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Originally Posted by CalvatE

It doesn't? We had a SMN in our raid for about a week and everytime s/he got top DPS (it was about the same as everyone elses but the Garuda-Egi giving it about 40~50 more is what made the SMN top DPS), but the SMN's dps being on average to everyone else seemed pretty right to me.

I heard it was an issue early on but I thought they fixed that.

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yes, it doesn't. I just tested it a few minutes ago (I always test it whenever someone in the forums claims or heard that it's fixed)

but yeah, a lot of it are still not getting parsed.

So Ruin will bypass the stoneskin buff on the Soilders; Will dots being cast on same target eventually peel off the buff?

Reason I ask my group currently runs 2 Bards 1 Monk 1 Summoner. the summoner is dpsing the Soilder until stoneskin drops then swaps to other soilder.

My question is it better to have one of the bards also on the Soldier to peel off the Stoneskin buff faster so the Dots to damage?

Either way you would still want to dot each soldier so you can bane the dots off to the knight.