24man group composition

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10-25-2013, 05:16 AM
Nooblet

24man group composition

I haven't done much research, but I've seen some saying there will be times splitting into 3 groups...

So will the typical setup be 6tanks 6 heals and 12dps? That seems like a lot of tanks. I'd hate to see people having to sit out though if there's tight dps checks. If you have say 3 groups doing 8 man content, and that doesn't translate to them teaming up to do 24man's I can see some problems.

So, am I worrying about something that isn't an issue? I know in rift almost every boss required different amounts of tanks healers etc, but you could easily swap between them whenever.
10-25-2013, 05:20 AM
Goreth

I'm under the impression that the 24 mans will be a lot like LFR in WoW, which in case you are not familiar with it, involves people randomly queuing up, mashing buttons for an hour, and then receiving loot; in short don't over think it.
10-25-2013, 05:21 AM
IzumiRaito

Crystal Tower is meant to be DFable, so there shouldnt be a problem in hard dps checks. No idea about other viable compositions. Although i do hope for some more varied compositions (imo 6 tanks seems like an overkill unless there will be zerg fate style fights), and include them in DF.
10-25-2013, 05:32 AM
Tupsi

Well, he already said 24 man raids = 3 Parties of 8 doing different sections, so it'll be the usual setup - we'll just more than likely get thrown into the same instance as 2 other parties.
10-25-2013, 05:33 AM
Garnatian

As far as I am aware, 24M isn't really 24M, but instead 8M x 3. I guess it's because they just can't allow for it for some reason.
10-25-2013, 06:18 AM
Naunet

The splitting into three groups is only part of CT, if I recall correctly. There is a point in the raid where the three groups meet back up and work together.

Though as another poster said above - Yoshi has stated they've deliberately tuned the fights waaaaay down so that it's doable via dungeon finder. So it's not going to be all that complex.
10-25-2013, 06:24 AM
Zumi

If its anything like WoW's LFR which they seem to be going for here. As long as you have about 8 people in the group who know how to play they can carry the rest to victory. In wow's lfr there was all sorts of problems people not knowing fights, afking, dying on purpose, but as long as you had a handful of people who know what they were doing you would win.
10-25-2013, 06:26 AM
Taban

I find it funny that people think CT will be mash your face on the keyboard and get loot, while at the same time saying not to bother trying Titan on the DF because it's too hard. I doubt we'll see anything like Twintania but I'll be disappointed if it's basically LFR.
10-25-2013, 06:45 AM
Obysuca

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Yoshi has stated they've deliberately tuned the fights waaaaay down so that it's doable via dungeon finder. So it's not going to be all that complex.

You'd think that, but remember, theres a lot of people who are 50 who have no idea how to dodge or even the rare few who don't know their job, causing easy fights to become hard.
10-25-2013, 06:50 AM
Naunet

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Originally Posted by Obysuca

You'd think that, but remember, theres a lot of people who are 50 who have no idea how to dodge or even the rare few who don't know their job, causing easy fights to become hard.

Heh, good point. I suppose only time will tell. I am looking forward to having new content to run, even if it is oddly placed in progression versus its release date.
10-25-2013, 06:50 AM
Terius

1 PLD in each grp
1 WHM in each grp
1 SCH in each grp
1 MNK in each grp
4 BRDs in each grp.

"LF BARD!!!"
10-25-2013, 02:48 PM
Kaliban

Has it been verified if a group of 24 (FC peeps) will be able to run it all together? It seems like that would be nonsense to not be able to run it as a full FC... even more so because it would be a learning ground for new members you are gearing up
10-25-2013, 03:12 PM
Nahara

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Originally Posted by Kaliban

Has it been verified if a group of 24 (FC peeps) will be able to run it all together? It seems like that would be nonsense to not be able to run it as a full FC... even more so because it would be a learning ground for new members you are gearing up

Every other Dungeon Finder instance can be done with a group comprised of people from the same server, so I would be stunned if the Crystal Tower forced people to grab randoms in order to enter it.
10-25-2013, 05:22 PM
Guevara

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goreth

I'm under the impression that the 24 mans will be a lot like LFR in WoW, which in case you are not familiar with it, involves people randomly queuing up, mashing buttons for an hour, and then receiving loot; in short don't over think it.

Like CM basically? XD

A part from jokes, I hope there will be some nice mechanics that have you to split up during dungeons (not necessarily 3 full parties, but also a group with physical attackers, one group with magics, or something like that) in order to unlock gates and advance.

Something like 1.0 CC when you had to syncro-kill the right mob for the party to move on.
10-25-2013, 06:44 PM
Felis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naunet

Though as another poster said above - Yoshi has stated they've deliberately tuned the fights waaaaay down so that it's doable via dungeon finder. So it's not going to be all that complex.

How i understand it they only tuned it down from "1 person do an error = party wipe" to "1 person do an error = no party wipe"