Myth after +1 Relic WHM

Is there a thread showing a list of which Myth pieces to purchase in order after getting relic + 1?

You should get whatever you want. Are you going for determination or spell speed or crit rate? Judge on what is best for your play style and go in that direction. If you want specific allagan drops then hold off from getting those pieces and perhaps you will get them during coil. If you don't plan on playing coil then go for what would suit you best. If you get the body, then the next piece you should get is the head. That is a total of 5 weeks to be optimal as you'll have to use strat or vanya in its place. Gloves and boots are cheapest only taking two weeks to get. The pants are more expensive, but add quite a few stats and only at 3 weeks. If you want crit then go for the rings. The choice is yours.

+1 weapon >> AF2 Legs >> AF2 hands/feet >> Hero's Ring
*If you end up getting allagan hands or feet buy whichever you don't have iLvl90 wise first

This is of course if your going WHM BiS and not considering what gear you currently have and what might be a larger upgrade at the time, and if you do play SCH you might opt for getting the Hero's Ring 3rd instead of 5th since it can be used and benifit both classes. Otherwise WHM is pretty Allagan BiS heavy.

Rings then legs.

Rings are BiS because there are only two ilvl 90 rings. ilvl90>ilvl70 simply because the MND budget is higher.

Legs because the Allagan one is assumed to be from Twintania.

http://i.imgur.com/2S0Drpa.png

Chart shows which give the biggest upgrade per tomes spent. However, the ring gives the best upgrade the fastest if you already have 25 tomes of myth before your first 300 cap after Relic +1

Further reading: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=5

So I have the AK chest/helm, DL left otherwise, some AK accs but no DL yet over there (+1ed BLM but maybe switching...).
For me, instead of +1 I'm thinking AF2 chest. For both efficiency and aesthetics:
Cowls suck. They limit options: Get the Allagan head in Turn 2 and you're back to Strategos? They're also expensive. I'm also vain.
Also by not buying the cowl you can spend philo on the accs and mats to get ilvl70 stuff (Hat/accs).

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

So I have the AK chest/helm, DL left otherwise, some AK accs but no DL yet over there (+1ed BLM but maybe switching...).
For me, instead of +1 I'm thinking AF2 chest. For both efficiency and aesthetics:
Cowls suck. They limit options: Get the Allagan head in Turn 2 and you're back to Strategos? They're also expensive. I'm also vain.
Also by not buying the cowl you can spend philo on the accs and mats to get ilvl70 stuff (Hat/accs).

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That could be the worst decision you make. Look at the chart I posted above. Getting the AF2 chest before your Relic +1 is THE ABSOLUTE least efficient way to increase your healing.

I found that the Spell Speed increase between Darklight and Cleric's + Imperial Operative Hat w/ Spell Speed was very noticeable but it might just be me.

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That could be the worst decision you make. Look at the chart I posted above. Getting the AF2 chest before your Relic +1 is THE ABSOLUTE least efficient way to increase your healing.

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According to that chart it says going from DL body > Cleric's Robe is extremely inefficient but the person you quoted said they are in AK body and head, which according to that chart going from AK Body + Head to Cleric's Body + AK Head is 3rd most efficient unless I am missing something.

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Originally Posted by Vech

That could be the worst decision you make. Look at the chart I posted above. Getting the AF2 chest before your Relic +1 is THE ABSOLUTE least efficient way to increase your healing.

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According to your chart it's the 3rd best. What are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Rbstr

According to your chart it's the 3rd best. What are you talking about?

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My apologizes, I thought you had DL chest. Anyways, getting DL chest and relic +1 is the most ideal upgrade considering they are on separate tomes.

With the Philo I spend on the DL chest I can get my fill of accessories and the Vanya hat. That's why I think it's much more efficient. I fiddled with the spreadsheet.

With 900myth and 1320 philo for the cowl and 1+ I gain 27 points over current (notable is a loss of 25 SS and 5 pie but a gain of 32det)

For 825 myth and 1125 philo (and $ for the Vanya hat) for AF2 chest and 3 DL accs I gain 116 points. There's over 3x as much mind gained (37 vs 11) as the alternative and 38 pie. Though no det gain really.

It all adds up to a gain of 10 hp/s if I don't +1.

anyone have a similar spreadsheet for sch?

currently i have relic +1 and full DL except for astral ring (later tonight), vanya robe and vanya hat. i'm thinking of saving up for the AF2 pants first since AF2 pants have lots of crit and DL--> AF2 seems like a bigger upgrade than vanya robe or hat --> af2 robe or hat.

only problem with getting pants first is that they have identical stats to allagan pants so if they were to drop i could potentially be wasting 3 weeks' worth of tomes. any input?

one thing i did not see considered was Allagan drops.
If your clearing coil 1-4 you can get anything except a second ring and legs.

So +1 / Legs / Ring. seems ideal first. Otherwise risk wasting drops.

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Originally Posted by jumpypuppet

only problem with getting pants first is that they have identical stats to allagan pants so if they were to drop i could potentially be wasting 3 weeks' worth of tomes. any input?

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Healer pants drop from Turn 5 and nobody's beaten it (legitimately) yet. Personally so far I've got +1 relic, waist and legs, I like the benefit of more HP, especially for Turn 5 attempts.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

Healer pants drop from Turn 5 and nobody's beaten it (legitimately) yet. Personally so far I've got +1 relic, waist and legs, I like the benefit of more HP, especially for Turn 5 attempts.

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so you do think that saving up for the pants to go from DL --> AF2 beats saving up for the chest since vanya->AF2 is a weaker upgrade? and saving for pants beats getting multiple smaller pieces (replace darklight neck/ring etc with hero's)?

SO i am in all HQ Vanya/Rose Gold/Astral gear (ilvl 70) minus the pants (they are demague..i think that is how they are spelled) and a DL ring, i was thinking of getting the pants after my +1 because from what i hear they only drop in turn 5 and well no one has ever beat turn 5, is that a bad idea?

so with legs dropping for turn 5 its safest to get legs and ring first before anything else since you can get upgrades from turns 1-4?

Unless you *really* care about min/maxing, it doesn't matter one freaking bit. The coil gear checks up to Turn 5 shouldn't require anything over a Relic + DL as a healer.

If you care about min/maxing, I'd focus on the drop charts. If it doesn't drop in T1/T2, prioritize it. Add in T4 if you have a group that can clear it.