WAR skill Inner Beast

Hey all, I've noticed some inconsistency with Inner Beast. At times, it gives what looks like the 300% self-heal (didn't do actual math, it just looks like around 3x as much at a glance), and yet sometimes it heals for less than the damage actually was. I actually had it heal me for 1 whole damage once last night.

I experimented a little with it, and for some reason it seemed to give less when following Maim and more when following Butcher's Block combo. Does anyone know what's up with this? I thought it was supposed to always be 300% self-heal, and I'd like to know how to keep it as high as possible if it's "Up to 300%" (which it doesn't say in the description).

I've been thinking about running some tests on this but haven't really had time. I landed an Inner Beast on a boss, was almost dead, and got 2013 HP back (highest so far I think) I'm usually not really watching the #'s when I swing though, and I don't run a parser.

I usually hit Berserk, Blood Bath, Convalescence, then SC Storm's Eye, and THEN pop IB. Typically get's me ~1K HP from bosses. I try and use my cooldowns so I can do 2 at a time, while at low health. Circling back to your post, sometimes, without noticing the exact #'s, It looks like I don't get healed as much, and I think my 2013 was indeed after a Butcher's Block.

My Inner Beast doesn't even work..

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Originally Posted by Binauralman

My Inner Beast doesn't even work..

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Like... at all?

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Originally Posted by Agmundr

Hey all, I've noticed some inconsistency with Inner Beast. At times, it gives what looks like the 300% self-heal (didn't do actual math, it just looks like around 3x as much at a glance), and yet sometimes it heals for less than the damage actually was. I actually had it heal me for 1 whole damage once last night.
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Are you noticing this on mobs with low health?

Inner Beast returns a heal proportion to the actual damage done, rather than the raw damage done, so if your target has less health than the amount of damage your hit would have done, then you would get less. The floating numbers that you see are the raw damage and not the actual health reduced from the mob. It's easy enough to test, get something low then hit it with Inner Beast to finish it off, you should always get a small amount back.

If you're seeing this behavior on mobs that have plenty of health left, then that would certainly be a different issue.

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Originally Posted by Agmundr

Like... at all?

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Yea like not at all, it never enables. I stack up Wrath and it still never actually enables. At least yours is working eh?

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Originally Posted by Tarrick

Are you noticing this on mobs with low health?

Inner Beast returns a heal proportion to the actual damage done, rather than the raw damage done, so if your target has less health than the amount of damage your hit would have done, then you would get less. The floating numbers that you see are the raw damage and not the actual health reduced from the mob. It's easy enough to test, get something low then hit it with Inner Beast to finish it off, you should always get a small amount back.

If you're seeing this behavior on mobs that have plenty of health left, then that would certainly be a different issue.

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I want to say that I've noticed it on mobs in general, but tonight I'll get on and test the theory.

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Originally Posted by Binauralman

Yea like not at all, it never enables. I stack up Wrath and it still never actually enables. At least yours is working eh?

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Well that's just... odd 0_0

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Originally Posted by Tarrick

Are you noticing this on mobs with low health?

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This is mostly correct, except it's not just damage dealt. It's more like a life steal so if the mob doesn't have as much HP left as you are supposed to be healed for you will only get healed for the mobs remaining HP. You can Inner Beast a mob and not kill it and still only get like 300-600 HP when you should have gotten 1.5k+.

Ok, I think that might've been my problem. I did SV and it seemed to work very well every time. I never got the chance to hit anything close to death with it to see if that's what brought it down, but it consistently did what it's supposed to do. If I start noticing any issues and it *isn't* because of low enemy HP, I'll post about it on this thread. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by CurlyBruce

This is mostly correct, except it's not just damage dealt. It's more like a life steal so if the mob doesn't have as much HP left as you are supposed to be healed for you will only get healed for the mobs remaining HP. You can Inner Beast a mob and not kill it and still only get like 300-600 HP when you should have gotten 1.5k+.

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I thought this was an accepted bug and the heals are not working correctly when attacking something with low health. It should still give you back the 300%. I have never had an inner beast hit that low unless the mob is close to death. My weakest now is about 750.

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Originally Posted by Binauralman

My Inner Beast doesn't even work..

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If you are level synced below 35, that would be why inner beast doesn't work "at all". If you are not gaining wrath, its because defiance inst up. Also, make sure you actually have your warrior soul equipped. (covering all bases, probably just the first point but its most likely just a troll post.)

Also, inner beast is an "Absorb" , so if you deal 300 damage, it absorbs 900 life. If the monster has less than 900 life, say 700 left, you are capped at absorbing 700 life.

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Originally Posted by Aegrus

Also, inner beast is an "Absorb" , so if you deal 300 damage, it absorbs 900 life. If the monster has less than 900 life, say 700 left, you are capped at absorbing 700 life.

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Wait what? I thought it was just off damage dealt. That in the tooltip?

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Originally Posted by Agmundr

Well that's just... odd 0_0

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I can't stop laughing but it's just too funny. I bet it looks like it's not enabled because he/she is busy doing other skills. IB is not off-GCD.

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Originally Posted by Aegrus

If you are level synced below 35, that would be why inner beast doesn't work "at all". If you are not gaining wrath, its because defiance inst up. Also, make sure you actually have your warrior soul equipped. (covering all bases, probably just the first point but its most likely just a troll post.)

Also, inner beast is an "Absorb" , so if you deal 300 damage, it absorbs 900 life. If the monster has less than 900 life, say 700 left, you are capped at absorbing 700 life.

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I've done all of the above, it still doesnt work. My Warrior is lvl 50, I have a soul stone, defiance is up, wrath is stacked... Inner Beast never enables, multiple mob sets low and high level.

Do us a favor and find a level 20 ish mob. Pop infuriate, and then Inner Beast. 2 buttons.

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Originally Posted by ExarKun007

Do us a favor and find a level 20 ish mob. Pop infuriate, and then Inner Beast. 2 buttons.

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That's what I'm trying to explain... I cannot click Inner Beast. It never enables or allows me to ever click it. I feel like "never enables" is being misunderstood :P Further, I was under the impression that the Wrath V was Infuriated?

Is it the IB skill pulled directly from your spellbook? Or did you by chance make a macro with /micon "Inner Beast"?

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Is it the IB skill pulled directly from your spellbook? Or did you by chance make a macro with /micon "Inner Beast"?

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That's the funny thing, I don't see it in spells and I have no macros. In fact I don't recall how it even got on my hot bar in the first place some weeks ago (probably automatically), but either way I do see it now and it's not macro'ed ( i'll double check even though I know I didn't make any ). So I'll check when I get home, but I'm not even sure if I can remove the ability then re-add it cause I don't recall seeing the ability on my list.

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Originally Posted by Binauralman

That's the funny thing, I don't see it in spells and I have no macros. In fact I don't recall how it even got on my hot bar in the first place some weeks ago (probably automatically), but either way I do see it now and it's not macro'ed ( i'll double check even though I know I didn't make any ). So I'll check when I get home, but I'm not even sure if I can remove the ability then re-add it cause I don't recall seeing the ability on my list.

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Go to Actions & Traits or press the P key > click job > BOOM! ...it's right there.

I don't mean to be an arse but if you're incapable of finding your own skills after playing the game for so long I don't quite trust your ability to activate the skill in question.

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Originally Posted by Grembo

Go to Actions & Traits or press the P key > click job > BOOM! ...it's right there.

I don't mean to be an arse but if you're incapable of finding your own skills after playing the game for so long I don't quite trust your ability to activate the skill in question.

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Well yes you are being an ass, but further the ability is already on my skill bar and I've explained multiple times that I have Wrath stacked. I've looked under jobs and Actions Traits, I know you're trying to help but yea the condescending attitude is offsetting.

Further if the actual spell is on my Bar, I stack Wrath to V and become infuriated my ability "Inner Beast" should now be enabled right? Cause it's not. It appears some people think I do not understand this ability, so if I don't constructive clarification would be awesome!

Remove whatever it is on your bar and replace it with a drag and drop from the abilities page, see if that clears up your problem bud.

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Originally Posted by ExarKun007

Remove whatever it is on your bar and replace it with a drag and drop from the abilities page, see if that clears up your problem bud.

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I'll give that a shot bud thanks!

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Originally Posted by Binauralman

In fact I don't recall how it even got on my hot bar in the first place some weeks ago (probably automatically)

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All new skills/abilities you earn are automatically placed on the next available open slot on your hot bar.

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Originally Posted by Binauralman

Well yes you are being an ass, but further the ability is already on my skill bar and I've explained multiple times that I have Wrath stacked. I've looked under jobs and Actions Traits, I know you're trying to help but yea the condescending attitude is offsetting.

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You're not doing yourself any favors if you can't solve a personal problem.

Dark, no need to be hostile man.

1. You were fighting the boss in CM that has a shield buff at certain times and used IB when his shield buff was up.

2. You used IB on Livia Sas Junius on her Magitek Mount.

3. Some other situation occurred that is similar to points 1 and 2.

Not sure if Cactuar is an old server or not but are you on a legacy server and was your WAR 50 before in 1.0? Did you do the Job quest to actually learn Inner Beast? If you had a 50 WAR in 1.0 the skill will show up on your hotbar but it won't be usable until you actually do the quest to unlock it. Same thing happened on my DRG with Jump and Phlebotomize.