Best Strategies for Ifrit?

Time for the Fire ...any good ideas for dealing with the Nails and other fun stuff in Ifrit? it looks pretty daunting ...esp the high level attacks he uses and the speed they come, i understand there are some "safe" spots to stand but not sure if that is needed to survive this dungeon. Anyway, any suggestions welcome.

def the best strategy for defeating nails is using blm/smn limit break.
Get to know his plume pattern and when to interrupt "eruption".

ok makes sense, those nails look tough.I guess you just have to be prepared to move a lot in this one and fast.

If you have 2 tanks, 1 being pld, have the pld be on stuns, only stun eruption. The plumes order is outside aoe inside aoe. He will usually do an eruption in between the plumes. After the nails are gone the plume order changes. It will remain out > in but it will also be one the takes up the arena minus right around him so have everyoneminus main tank crowd behind him. When he jumps just avoid the line he runs.

Just did the fight now, and I have to admit it was quite scary - that Flame Breath took like 1/3 of my hitpoints so I was like "yea this is gonna suck...".

Never done it before, granted I did read a guide. But all we really did was have the tank (me) face the horny dude away from the party. When the nail spawned everyone, me included went berserk on it and managed to kill it before the Hellfire. Apart from that it was all just a matter of avoiding aoes.

I suppose I was lucky that we had a good healer and our dps werent the kind that stand in aoes and expect to just get healed through it.

If you're the healer, make sure you keep an eye on the ground you're standing on - the cracks/flaming ground that spawn all over the battlefield will get you if you're slow. When I did the fight (as CNJ) my party failed about three times because I was too slow at avoiding the cracks/flame field and got killed around the time the nail spawned (I was too busy keeping an eye on the party's health like I should have been).

So as a healer you really need to work harder in the fight, as well as healing you have to watch the AoEs as well - it teaches you to be mindful of your surroundings/environment.

I made it thru after our party died three times. It was hard to see the ground attacks to the end, we managed to kill the sword in the ground three times but my main mistake was not focusing on Ifrit enough and not keeping his Agro on me so the rest of the team has to work extra hard. One of them was kind enough to tell me before the final try that i was a lousy tank, which I know already which is why had asked here for advice. .but it is not a lot of fun to hear that in the middle of a fight then you were doing your best and giving your all. I didnt want to let the team down so i kept at it and i think by the end i improved and we managed to kill him and it felt really good.

I skipped the start video and thought it would be in my diary in the inn room but i guess if you skip a video you dont get it to watch later. anyway thanks a lot.

My advice after doing it is to be sure all of the team but the Gladiator stays on the far side, the entrance side, the tank keeps agro on Ifrit hard and keeps him pointed his way, and then be sure to kill the sword but if the tank joins in the nail attack, then it may take longer for the final kill and some of those wave attacks are hard to see with all the flame around .... not an easy test ...but with a good healer and focused DPS people it is doeable. thanks again for the help and I will keep trying to improve.

Tank doesn't have to kill the nail, the dps should be enough for it. If the tank moves to the nail(s) Ifrit will roast them and the rest of the party. If you are struggling to down the nail in time, your dps are doing something wrong, either skill or gear wise. As much as I don't like it, the game has constant roadblocks when it comes to gear.

Also, you CAN watch all cutscenes in your inn, they are not all under the same category though. Just change to duty and you should be able to find it.

Thank you Soukyuu San, much appreciate that. I have been careful to get the best equipment i can afford and use...and will keep trying my hardest to learn ..i will do the next two optional dungeons to try to improve my skills and will always be honest to the teams i get that i am new and learning as fast as i can.

I guess it is all dependent on your group.
I believe we were myself as Tank and along with a Mage, Archer, and do not recall what other classes.
I could not remember it all to well as we finished fairly quickly. I believe when the Nail dropped someone in the group said to focus on it and i do recall the only one attacking from up close.
If a tank gets enough agro on Ifrit i would say for everyone to focus on the nail, tank included as if it is not taking care of i heard Ifrit's next attack can wipe everyone
I know at first going into it i thought for it to be daunting as i am still new to MMO's but it went great actually.
Also true about gear, always best to have the same level or higher as the Dungeon and or Quest

Like people have said, having a PLD on stun duty and BLM/SMN for the AOE LB make the fight a lot easier. Though I've run dual warrior with my FC before but we have VOIP to coordinate who stuns. You can also use Provoke to practice tank switching for Coil.

Ifrit can be a daunting challenge, although it is admittedly the easiest of the primal fights. Some key points to be wary of is the dps check with the nail, aoe dodging, and tank interrupts.

Phase 1:
First and foremost, you will want to tank ifrit on the edge of a map so he faces away from the rest of the party. This will give your party the most room to maneuver any aoe he throws at them.
Ifrit will periodically throw out an aoe centered around him that knocks back. It doesn't do much damage but may interrupt casters who are too close. If you have them tanked to the side and have given your healers enough room, it shouldn't be a problem.
Ifrit will also use a breath attack. It does a lot of damage and you should dodge it if you can, but you could just meld fire resist materia on to your armor and take the hit. This choice mostly depends how comfortable you are shifting the boss around, how many melee dps are in your party, and your healer's mp/performance.
Ifrit will use a large aoe that will target your dps and healers. This skill, called 'eruption', will significantly hurt anyone it hits and often forces your party to move. You may use a stun skill (shield stun) to interrupt the skill however, and doing so is highly recommended. On easy mode, it's not a huge loss if you don't, but harder difficulties require it. Be aware that enemies will build up resistance if a status effect is used too many times, so be certain only one person is stunning and only doing it for eruption (which has a cast time you will see). Talk to your dps about who is doing it if you aren't.

End of Phase 1 (damage burst):
Ifrit will drop a nail and it is up to your team to kill it. The tank should keep ifrit facing away from the nail and stun its eruption attack so your dps can just focus on damage. Your dps should be able to bring it down by themselves, and leave it up to your dps' decision to use a Limit Break if time is running short. I think you have around 20-30 seconds after the nail drops to down it.
If the nail is still up, ifrit will use his ultimate and deal 9999 damage to the party. Everyone dies and you restart.
If the nail is not up, ifrit will still use his ultimate, but it only deals a lot of damage. If everyone is not at full hp, some people will die. So the healer should make sure everyone is topped off before this attack. Afterwards, if you have an lb saved up, the healer can consider using it or just spamming a lot of heals. Either way, the healer will have to output a lot of healing, prioritizing the tank who might be eating a lot of damage from ifrit immediately after.

Phase 2:
Ifrit will now continue in the same way as Phase 1 but now will also use a less powerful version of his ultimate. Tanks interrupt eruption as usual, but the party should be aware that there is a new attack that cannot be interrupted.
This new special attack will launch an aoe attack that targets the center of the arena and then the sides of the arena shortly after. Dps should stay along the edge of the map and then run in to the center after it erupts. Afterwards, the dps and healer alternate between inner and outer rings of the arena while avoiding eruptions (which someone would ideally be stunning).
The tank does something similar, but stays as close to the edge and pointing ifrit away from the party as much as possible when dodging the special attack.
Ifrit repeats this pattern for the rest of the fight, so it is just a matter of learning the attack pattern.

HM ifrit adds three other tricks, but the basics of dodging and predicting his moves is not different.

Congrats on beating Ifrit!

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Originally Posted by CrisGer

I skipped the start video and thought it would be in my diary in the inn room but i guess if you skip a video you dont get it to watch later. anyway thanks a lot.

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No, you're supposed to be able to watch it. It's just bugged right now. No Duty cutscenes are working in the Inn (as of the latest patch, I believe). The rest of the cutscenes work fine. There are multiple bug reports already, like this one:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...es-in-Inn-room

I'm a Conjurer. My party beat Ifrit in one go. My suggestions, get a good healer! Whatever else you do is up to you, but I did notice the party split up, and yes you do have to dodge occasionally.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Tank doesn't have to kill the nail, the dps should be enough for it. If the tank moves to the nail(s) Ifrit will roast them and the rest of the party.

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It depends on whether your DPS are melee or ranged. In order for the tank to join in the attack on the nail, Ifrit will end up facing the nail, which you don't want if your DPS need to be there to attack it. On the other hand, if your DPS are ranged, then you can move to the nail (bringing Ifrit with you) and the rest of the team can move around behind Ifrit and still attack the nail. When I did this, it was with an archer (me) and a thaumaturge as DPS, so we had enough maneuverability for the tank to be able to join in on the nail.

It's still risky and unneeded unless your teammates are undergeared. Sure, you can't pick your teammates on the DF, but it could be an emergency solution.

Ah that explains why i could not find the duty videos in the Inn ..thanks for sharing that, i am glad to know the reason and I am sure they will fix it when they can. It is nice to have and i skipped the cut scenes as i was the Tank and wanted to be ready to go if everyone else was in a hurry. As it turned out one of the other party members watched them so it ended up fine for all. thanks again for all the great ideas and help.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

It depends on whether your DPS are melee or ranged. In order for the tank to join in the attack on the nail, Ifrit will end up facing the nail, which you don't want if your DPS need to be there to attack it. On the other hand, if your DPS are ranged, then you can move to the nail (bringing Ifrit with you) and the rest of the team can move around behind Ifrit and still attack the nail. When I did this, it was with an archer (me) and a thaumaturge as DPS, so we had enough maneuverability for the tank to be able to join in on the nail.

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Normal mode: It isn't really needed for tank to kill nail. It also requires more work than it is worth to attack the nail.

Hard mode: Whenever Ifrit finishes his rush, move forward as though you were dodging the outer plumes. This will get you close enough to the nail to attack it without turning Ifrit. Really only needed if DPS are down or not enough dps.

OK great for when i do it on Hard. much appreciate all the generous help here, was very nice and making it thru that gave me courage to go on, now i am about to do the thousand Maws. :)