Do yourself a favor if you don't already know this. Enable fists of wind, and then mouse over the actual buff on your status bar and read the effects.
Funny how the tool tip for the ability and the buff are different. Specifically, notice how the buff states that you get a bonus to weaponskill recast time.
If this is true, have we parsed this up against fist of fire and determined if it does truly give a reduction in weaponskill time that is comparable to the 5% increased damage from fists??
Fists of win(d)?
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10-18-2013, 12:24 PMwonka11Fists of win(d)?
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10-18-2013, 12:30 PMSpythe
The tooltip is wrong and is from 1.0, Fist of Wind just increases your movement speed.
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10-18-2013, 01:19 PMMortechaiHave to add words to make post longer. ^This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spythe
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10-18-2013, 02:25 PMBlooregardUnfortunately, this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spythe
I think it should though. As is I don't get much use out of any of 'em but Fire, which is a shame, I'm more of a speed guy. I was excited for Fists of Wind like I was Shoulder Tackle...they've both got their uses, no doubt, shoulder tackle a hell of a lot more than Fists of Wind, but I'm still letdown because I had daydreams of being a speed king, dashing from enemy to enemy...Instead I got a 90 second cooldown and a movement speed increase that's hardly noticeable, lol. -
10-18-2013, 03:28 PMZakardQuote:
Originally Posted by Blooregard
fist of wind is kind of useless curently since the speed boost is barely noticable but fire and earth both have it use.fire most of the time and using earth for aoe you cant avoid like on titan fight.only wind is useless -
10-18-2013, 03:36 PMAwakeDo yourself a favour and see for yourself that when you enable the skill your GCD remains the same as before.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonka11
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10-18-2013, 11:24 PMMcDizz
I wouldn't say wind is completely useless though, I have not stepped into coil yet, but I know when I'm doing Titan-HM's I switch between all 3 flavors of fist.
1. Fire - I use this 99% of the time pre p5, and through all of heart of course.
2. Earth - I use this during tremor, help the healers out
3. Wind - I use this in P5, helps ensure I take absolutely no damage from anything avoidable. Gets me out of plumes faster, away from bombs quicker, and attacked the boss sooner helping to make sure I don't lose GL stacks. -
10-18-2013, 11:26 PMEasymodeXThis is legit. I wouldn't do it, but it's a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by McDizz
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10-18-2013, 11:28 PMAicasiaIn the time it takes for Fists of Wind to take effect and provide a meaningful increase in distance moved you would be well out of anything Titan throws at you. It's pointless to activate it on the fly - it's something you either use ahead of time knowing you'll need to move a fair distance, or you don't use at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by McDizz
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10-18-2013, 11:58 PMMcDizzIn P5, I am in Fists of Wind the entire time minus tremor, which I turn Earth on for - I do not turn Wind on "on the fly" - I don't turn any of them on "on the fly". It's a matter of knowing the fight, the rotation, and when the different fists are going to be best utilized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aicasia
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10-19-2013, 12:09 AMAicasiaThat's fine. I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just making a statement about Fists of Wind. FoE doesn't actually make it easier on the healers, it just makes it easier on you. He's going to do AoE damage regardless (since no one should be getting hit by single target except the tank) so they aren't just healing you. Its more about how much you trust them and your HP pool. Titan is all about being comfortable though so it's not like there is a wrong choice when it comes to fists of earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by McDizz
I don't personally agree with using FoW for the entirety of P5, there is no real need, but its a valid strategy and I wouldn't tell someone not to do it if it makes them feel more comfortable. Hell, I'd recommend mnks new to the fight do it your way. It's an entirely valid way to do the fight. -
10-19-2013, 12:43 AMMcDizz
You have a valid point with healers going to be doing the healing regardless, but I have literally died from nothing more than tremor damage - from full hp which I think I'm around 3970 at this point. Granted, that was *probably* because one of the healers was 10,000 miles away and not hitting me with their aoe spam... but better safe than sorry and 10% less damage would have saved me there.
FoW in P5, I agree it's not required or needed, but it adds leeway - and while I have not mathed it out there is and always will be a genuine argument for movement speed increasing dps on heavy movement fights. The quicker you get back to a boss, the sooner you're doing damage again - the more damage you deal in total. Whether or not that outweighs 5%... hard to say, but if you ever miss keeping GL3 up by just a second or so I'd say probably worth it. -
10-19-2013, 01:56 AMZigkid3
Mostly i use fire obviously.
Sometimes I'll switch to Earth for boss mechanic that do unavoidable damage like titan and garuda (destroying the pillars).
So far for boss fights I use fists of wind for the last boss in wanderers palace. I have the tank just park the boss in the middle with the other dps while I run around and kill the adds, pretty fun.