What is target filtering/cycling?

I don't understand what this does. I see options for when your weapon is drawn or sheathed, and it looks like you can set what targets you want to cycle through, but how is this used?

For example, I have a keybind that cycles through the nearest enemies, and that's all it targets. So why would I need filters if the shortcut is already set for just enemies, and not NPCs or other players, etc.?

Thanks.

for example - when on my healer and I have my wpn unsheathed I cannot target players/npcs who are not in my party - unless I change my filters. So, for an example scenario, say im doing fates and I see the tank/dps needing heals but im not in their party - unless I change the filters I cannot even target them =D

I think each class would have pros and cons to different settings heh.

These options are applied if you use Tab to cycle through enemies or Left and Right on the Gamepad. The filters are honestly more of a Gamepad function than a Mouse/Keyboard one.

oh yea, sorry - should have mentioned im refereeing to my experience as ps3 player with controller xDDD

So do they apply at all for mouse/keyboard?

keyboard if u a tab-user

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Originally Posted by SugarPeanut

keyboard if u a tab-user

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Well, I changed TAB to A, but it still cycles only through enemy NPCs and nothing else, so I don't see the need to filter out other NPCs, PCs, etc. They aren't even a part of what the key does in the first place. It's set to "target nearest enemy," so why would you need a filter for that?

I hope im actually understanding u correctly (its late here) but what im saying is ppl ADD to the basic settings..like in my example so they can also tab/triggertarget to players when in battle. So jt isnt a filtering OUT ,its a filtering IN.

If you are playing on PS3 a thing you may want to do is to set the the cycling to "Friends" (or what fits you the most), that's to cycle with left/right. Then you can change the set of people to cycle with L1+<button> (you must enable that as well). Then to switch between enemies hold L2/R2 and click L1/R1.

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Originally Posted by JohnJSal

Well, I changed TAB to A, but it still cycles only through enemy NPCs and nothing else, so I don't see the need to filter out other NPCs, PCs, etc. They aren't even a part of what the key does in the first place. It's set to "target nearest enemy," so why would you need a filter for that?

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I just checked the keybinds and you are correct, TAB or whatever you set it to, the function is specifically only for enemies.

So this setting is specifically for Gamepad users, who by default have left and right cycle through all targets when out of battle and Enemies/NPCs when in battle.

These filters are not very useful to keyboard/mouse users unless you are a Tab user.

I have a bigger question: Why are summons and companions target-able in the first place? I could see this being relevant during PvP, but other than that we shouldn't be even able to select another player's summon or companion.

As a tank the few seconds you waste selecting the wrong target can mean your friend obtains too much hate and dies.
As a healer the few seconds wasted trying to hit the right party member can mean certain death for your friend.
As a damage dealer the few seconds wasted can mean you lose a substantial amount of dps time.

You can heal and buff pets even if you aren't the owner, which can be useful on occasion.

They apparently changed it so that Pets are on lower priority than enemies which seems to be working for me so far, but for target cycling we really need a Pet checkbox or for them to be counted under Friendly or Allies.

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Originally Posted by SugarPeanut

I hope im actually understanding u correctly (its late here) but what im saying is ppl ADD to the basic settings..like in my example so they can also tab/triggertarget to players when in battle. So jt isnt a filtering OUT ,its a filtering IN.

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The filters in my settings have everything checked, yet it still doesn't target anything but enemies. I suppose it could only apply to a controller, but there are even more settings underneath these settings that are grayed out and have specific controller options, like the buttons on a controller. The settings that are available to me seem to apply to a keyboard setup, yet don't seem to work. Maybe it's more controller stuff.

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Originally Posted by JohnJSal

The filters in my settings have everything checked, yet it still doesn't target anything but enemies. I suppose it could only apply to a controller, but there are even more settings underneath these settings that are grayed out and have specific controller options, like the buttons on a controller. The settings that are available to me seem to apply to a keyboard setup, yet don't seem to work. Maybe it's more controller stuff.

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There are keyboard bindings available that mimic a gamepad's targeting, and I'd imagine the filter settings apply to those keys. I believe it's numpad 4 and 6 by default. Note that these keys soft-target something (giving you the circle on the 3D model and allowing you to cast spells etc. on it, without making it your target), so to switch targets to something you select with these keys, you also need a confirm key bound (numpad 0 by default).

(All of this is gleaned from other threads I have a relatively certain memory of; no warranty supplied.)