Leveling Miner

Hi, I'm pretty new to the game and to mining, just reached Rank 20.

I've spent quite a bit of time mining points to get Rank 20 and was wondering, is that the only way to level? Other then the occasional guildleve, mining the 4 Grade 3 nodes for about 150xp per item is the best way? I've read up that I should go to the next grade when I can mine 3 or 4 times and have access to the skills to locate them, but with the amount of SP growing larger and larger it seems like a huge grind to level a gathering class.

I'm not wanting it to be easy or seem like I'm complaining it's too difficult, just wanting to make sure I'm not wasting my time and doing something wrong. :)

It is a huge grind

1) get as much output gear as you can, gathering gear 2nd to this. This will give you more swings per node.
2) Level botony to 25 and get sweat of brow, when active you get double sp.
3) spend alot of time grinding

Ok, so output then gathering on gear.

Good thing about botany is it's rank 12, bad news is it took a while to get to 20 miner lol. Well I swear I see more harvesting points while out mining, so I was thinking of carrying Botany main/offhand tools as well.

Does Quarry serve any purpose then getting a few items? The SP is low and much harder to find quarry points.

yeah doing both same time isnt a bad idea

you can actualy have less running that way

find any 3 nodes, of either of them, and you can run between the 3, wether it be 2 botony 1 mining or the opposite
youll progress well in both that way

as for quarry, same as harvest for botony, yes they serve purposes, items, alot of the items from them you cant get anywhere else

and when you hit grade 5 especialy youll want what items can drop from it

For grinding output > gathering since output raises the number of atempts you can do while gathering only lessens the remainder loss per hit.

Also, its interesting you find a spot with 3 mining points close (like iron lake often has)...no matter if mining or quarrying point because the point resets after you finish another 2 poinrs so you can just rotate at these 3 points. Also, if you have crafts r10~15, yoy can do guild tasks...completing the r10 ones as mine will give miner the 500sp reward. You can do up to 11 guild tasks daily, which means 5500 sp daily without having to worry about gathering fatigue. I've been doing a bunch of guild tasks daily as FSH.

Oh, the guild tasks give SP? I did 2 or 3 only for ARM or BSM and just thought I got the reward offered. And the SP you receive goes to the class your on, so turn them in as Miner?

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Originally Posted by Zaran_Akikaze

Oh, the guild tasks give SP? I did 2 or 3 only for ARM or BSM and just thought I got the reward offered. And the SP you receive goes to the class your on, so turn them in as Miner?

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Yep. Every guild task gives 500sp to the class you are when you deliver the item. So you can just get all requested stuff, change to miner and deliver everything as miner so all sp reward goes to miner.

I don't recommend grinding on mining. Take what you need, use what you take is the best way to go about it. Just grinding up mining gives lazy smiths all your rewards.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

I don't recommend grinding on mining. Take what you need, use what you take is the best way to go about it. Just grinding up mining gives lazy smiths all your rewards.

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Agreed. Once you hit rank 38, you've unlocked everything anyway.

Take gathering fatigue as an incentive to go and do something else, like using the materials you have gathered. It's not like it's a race to rank 50.

I find that some nice music, or a movie in the corner of the screen helps to offset the grind.

Better yet, have something that you're actually trying to get with mining. Perhaps an LS friend needs some Alumen for example. It makes it a helluva lot easier on the grind if you have a purpose :)

Sorry guys I hear this word all the time.... What is grinding? xD

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Originally Posted by xAsthenia

Sorry guys I hear this word all the time.... What is grinding? xD

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Grinding = continuously playing the class just for ranking up.

Ahh I see, now it makes sense, thanks for clearing that up ^_^

A further tip. If you are grinding for ranks and not specific materials, LOWER your perception stat (and do not equip earthen favor).

Higher perception = greater chance of getting rare items.
Unlike boring and common items, rare items break easier -> More likely to fail the gathering attempt -> less SP.
Ergo, lower perception = more reliable SP gains.

The downside to this of course is that mining becomes even more boring.

@Catapult thank you very much for the idea. I am going to try it out to target specific items :)

I don't know if lowering your perception will lower the rank of harvested mats, which is different from the QUALITY of the material that you harvest. Lowering your perception probably just gives you the same item mix you always would have, just more NQs.

I may indeed stand corrected. From the lodestone:

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Gathering: Reduces the depletion rate of the Remainder gauge.
Perception: Increases a player's chance to find higher-quality items.
Output:
Increases the amount of times a miner or botanist can gather at a single point, as well as reduces the amount of time a fisher must wait for a bite.

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So I suppose it depends on your definition of quality. I had assumed quality = rarity, which now you mention it may not be the best interpretation compared to +1/2/3.

That being said, sacrificing perception for gathering and output can only assist your overall SP haul.

Quality is +1/2/3.

To avoid certain items the best is to follow the tips they give and move the depth gauge the opposite way. Some examples are iron ore and those raw jewels...the depletion they cuse is terrible grind-wise so the best would be, since they often are at deeper areas, to move gauge up so you might have them much rarier.

Also, being in a spot where you get there "you'sense the [item] right where you are" of a common item would maximize the chances of obtaining it...having iron sand, pyrite or copper ore in this situation helps alot.

Also, its nice that the item dificulty is the very same no matter the grade...if you mine a pyrite in glory area (coerthas, grade 4 if not mistaken), it will deplete your remainder there just as fast as it would if you mine it in black brush area (thanalan, grade 1)...so seeking low rank items is the best way to improve your sp/hr if you don't care about drops.

I keep my stats balanced and mine for the gil items silver at my range ive made almost 6mil of that entirely plus occasional gold hits and mythril. There is good money to be made that way as well. So the grind is worth it when gil intensive items come out, which i am sure they will eventually for now bank ur gil

No money in iron any more. On Figaro, nuggets are now going for as low as 350gil where they used to go for as high as 1500gil. Plus, silver is the BSM grind for 45-50, so it's becoming more in demand.

As dangerous an area as it is, Treespeak is the place to go for this stuff. And gives good leveling. Two notches from the top of your slider tends to work well - you'll also get gemstones.

On an unrelated matter, get yourself a Gridanian Doublet if you're grinding. For leves, wear the Lominsan Doublet Vest. +20 to Output or Gathering respectively from Rank 25.
Gridanian Doublet is best output in the game. Jerkins don't get better than the Lominsan Doublet Vest till the much higher ranks. Love that company gear.

are you suposed to sit in the area that your lay of the land rank is? cause i only get 140 sp per success at rank 23

you will get alot of different responses to that question fixy, imo yes, as you could be walking around looking for nodes finding 1 in the same space of time you have found 3 nodes at the correct grade. You also can dig more times at the correct grade before going off to the next node

One thing I didn't see mentioned yet: Once you have Sweat of Brow, unequip every other ability. At least, for leveling. . .