best monk rotation discussion

i create this thread to talk about what you think is the best monk rotation.a thread like that have been made earlier but it have been buried by now and havent found it anymore....

so my current rotation look like that.

solo trash: DK-twin-demo-DK-twin-snap-ID-ID-BS-twin-snap-DK-twin-demo

aoe trash-dk-twin-IR-rockbreaker-howling fist-DK-twin-rock etc

boss: DK-twin-snap-PB-snap-snap-IR-demo-frac-ToD-DK-twin-snap-ID-ID-BS-twin-demo-frac-DK-twin-snap-ToD

i usualy only use demo as dot on trash since they usualy die quick and with my current rotation using 2x ID,i would probably lose GL using fracture or will be pretty close to it.i also use only twinsnake to be sure the buff is always up,using ID-ID-BS take more time and if i use true strike,i will lose twinsnake buff for like 2 attack.i currently dont have blood for blood yet but i will probably use it before IR to get the max buff on my DOT.i also use steal peack and howling fist when they are up and IR almost everytime it is up.

i dont know if this rotation is the best but that why im sharing it to get your opinion about it and know what are the rotation of other.im looking to get a really hight and the best dps rotation.i always feel like other do higther dps then me , so i want to see if my rotation can be upgraded.thx in advance

solo trash: DK-twin-demo-DK-twin-snap-ID-ID-BS-twin-snap-DK-twin-demo
second this.

after some research most seem to say that ID shouldnt be used and rotation like this is the best.

Dk-twin-demo-Dk-twin-snap-BS-true-snap-dk twin-demo-BS-true-snap

i dont know what to think anymore and what is the best..i tryed few thing and my dps seem low compared to other with the same kind of gear.some monk i meet was using similar rotation but i feel like they do higther dps then me when im actualy better geared.dont know if its my imagination or what...dont have any parser to test and i tried to dl ff14-app and it wasnt working.heard its because of the last patch that he dont work anymore.i also feel like other class do WAY more dps then monk....like blm/smn dps look insane

really dont know what wrong,i think im using a good rotation and using every position,what wrong then?im currently lacking blood for blood so that doesnt help lol.my lancer is currently lvl 30 so i will have it soon.so i would like some more opinion about perfect rotation and how i could increase my dps

Guess, this is going to be a very noobish question, but what is "ID"? I can't find the correct abbreviation for it

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Originally Posted by VonWilhelm

Guess, this is going to be a very noobish question, but what is "ID"? I can't find the correct abbreviation for it

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Impulse drive. It's a cross class skill from the dragoon.

Ah, thanks!

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Originally Posted by Zakard

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ID has the highest potency attack that we have I believe (although it's a cross skill). I find that it's not useful until you reach a certain point in SkSp. Keeping TS and DK buffs should take priority over using 2x ID. I found with my current setup, I can get BS->TruSt->Demo-> ID ID-> DK->Twin->Snap and repeat that rotation, occasionally subbing out ID for a dot refresh and of course Demo for Snap. As soon as I get into position for Dk the buff wears off, where I'm refreshing it literally as I'm doing the kick, etc.. So ID is strong *if* you have the SkSp and ability to use it. But I wouldn't prioritize it over anything else IMO.

When your GCD begins to go under 2 seconds, impulse drive animation is too long to warrant using it anymore. Not only is the animation an issue, you will drain your TP real quick using ID in conjunction with your DoTs, which all 3 including fracture do more damage than any other skill you have.

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Originally Posted by Ephier

When your GCD begins to go under 2 seconds, impulse drive animation is too long to warrant using it anymore. Not only is the animation an issue, you will drain your TP real quick using ID in conjunction with your DoTs, which all 3 including fracture do more damage than any other skill you have.

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yea i also notice ID animation seem a bit longer compared to a simple rotation with BS-TS-snap.for the tp cost it wasnt a problem so far.

DK-TS-Demo/SP-ID/ToD-ID/Fr-ID

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Originally Posted by Zakard

yea i also notice ID animation seem a bit longer compared to a simple rotation with BS-TS-snap.for the tp cost it wasnt a problem so far.

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Keep in mind that the positioning of the skill is "locked" once the animation starts, you can start moving once the skill has started. I.e. you can start ID animation and begin moving immediately to flank and you'll get full rear potency on ID even though the animation may actually finish while you're at flank.

But yeah, overall the animation for ID is a bit longer than i'd like.

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Originally Posted by Shyle

Keep in mind that the positioning of the skill is "locked" once the animation starts, you can start moving once the skill has started. I.e. you can start ID animation and begin moving immediately to flank and you'll get full rear potency on ID even though the animation may actually finish while you're at flank.

But yeah, overall the animation for ID is a bit longer than i'd like.

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yes i know shyle but when you use 2xID back to back.....the long animation is another story.

between i come up with another rotation on trash that seem interesting.

DK-twin-demo-DK(debuff applyed)-twin-snap-BS-ID-twin-snap(or demo not sure) DK-twin-snap(or demo if not applyed on other rotation)
with this rotation,debuff/buff are up all the time
basicly,its the same simple rotation but,using ID instead of true strike.it got 30 more potency so non crit is higther then true strike and if it crit,way higther dmg but....true strike have 5% crit chance so because of that reason im not sure if this rotation is better