CopperBell Questions

As i understand it the final boss in Copperbell does have an AOE attack but it does not show a ground red circle or shape....so how do you know when it is coming? some say there is a cast bar indication but i was not sure what that mean....it said on the target so i am guessing it would be on me as the Tank?

I guess some of the other foes in there have a jitter attack that does not have an AOE warning either, not sure how you know about that either. Just trying to do research ...to prepare..

also the blob monsters when they divide and you have to use the bomb machine on them, do you have ALL of them in the bomb radius for them to divide? i was not sure how easy it is to keep them in a herd when there are 8 of them. thanks for any tips.

What they meant is, If you target the monster and their HP bar pops up, there will always appear a small loading bar, under the HP bar of the boss, as they cast/ready any skill. It appears on both visible and non visible attacks.

While I can't answer any of your questions in particular, I can give a tip for the last boss:

Simply focus him down, and ignore the adds. Even a poorly geared group can kill him before the adds manage to break the wall, and the fight will be significantly faster as a result.

The last boss basically comes down to the tank sticking with the boss, and the DDs immediately taking out any adds that burst through the first wall, as if they break down the second one, you'll be swamped and wipe before you even know what's happening. As long as you can keep the flunkies from breaking the second wall, you'll be fine.

As for the flan, you really need to keep it's parts close to the bomb in order to do damage to them/split them, as they're utterly invincible otherwise (well until they've been blown down into 8 separate parts ;)).

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

The last boss basically comes down to the tank sticking with the boss, and the DDs immediately taking out any adds that burst through the first wall

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As was mentioned above, if you just focus on the boss and ignore the adds, he will die long before they ever manage to break the second wall, even with subpar dps.

If you've got an ACN in the pt, tell them to just [Sic] carby on the adds as they pop up, should need little more than that, iirc, while the rest of the group burns down the final boss.

As for the slime boss, no the parts don't have to all be in blast radius at once, it's just easier that way. You could just spam [Flash] on them to keep them gathered, just get out of the blast radius before the bomb goes off or you'll die...

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

As was mentioned above, if you just focus on the boss and ignore the adds, he will die long before they ever manage to break the second wall, even with subpar dps.

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That's true. Still though, I like to think of the boss fight for this dungeon as a sort of training for higher level dungeons. It may be easier to just gang up on and overwhelm the boss, but doing it the harder way helps teach new players how to switch up their strategy quickly and coordinate their attacks better. I believe challenge breeds excellence.

For the slime boss, you will have to group them up around the bombs. Blobs not in the bombs will not split, prolonging the fight. I wouldn't worry about damage though as the attack power seems to be divided amongst the blobs. Smaller pieces deal significantly less damage than the big slime at the beginning. If are having trouble surviving all the hits as a gladiator, you might consider gathering the mobs so they're attacking you from the front. This will let you capitalize on the block stat from your shield. Otherwise, get lvl15 gear for you and your healer. You should not have any problems after that.

there's two tricks to the final boss. The first is to go all out on dps with the boss and ignore the adds. In this strategy, your conjurer/arcanist is encouraged to contribute by activating cleric stance or using emerald carbuncle. Overall, this strategy is fine if you have a healer not prone to panic and capable of healing/dpsing on the run or a thaum who can sleep enemies if your group does panic at the 1-3 mobs that might break through.

The other trick is to tank the boss next to the second opening. Since the adds don't initially aggro on anyone, the dps can safely attack them. By having the boss near where the adds are, you allow for your casters to utilize their aoe and your melee dps to quickly kill the adds and then attack the boss. This is the more technical (and i believe intended) of the solutions.

wow great everyone thanks so much. partly the reason i needed to plan carefullly is that I am playing on a Japanese world and from past experience i Dungeons so far, sometimes the Duty finder given team wont talk to me much if at all. Last time i just had to do my best and hope they would know what to do. So discussing plans and coordinating tactics may not be possible, and I needed to know what to do in as much detail as i could. All of this is really helpful very much indeed. I am way over geared with level 30 stuff now so that wont be a problem, and I will just hope the Healer I get will know their stuff too. thanks again.Anova, that second option sounds really good, and I dounderstand all you suggest, it makes a lot of sense ...that fact that the Adds dont aggro is a big help..and even tho i will tank hard on teh boss no matter what, it will be very interesting to see if your strategy works as well as i think it will. thanks again everyone. I will do the Dungeon tomorrow, i feel a lot better about it now. Really appreciate how generous everyone is, and I am learning a lot in the process. :)

The blob boss is super easy. Just flash each time it splits and tell the DPS ahead of time not to attack them. Each time the healer needs to heal you, flash. You should never lose hate. Also, you can keep them pretty much right where the bomb spawns.

Yes the blob needs to be on top of the red hill type thing so he can explode.
As a tank i mainly focused on the blob while the healer i believe triggered the explosions and other members took care of the adds.
This dungeon went by so fast i am actually surprised i remember it, lol

You do need to keep both or all four parts of the blob within the bomb's radius, but so long as the rest of your team leaves them alone (as the blobs can't be damaged at that point anyway) so they aren't attracting aggro, that's pretty easy to do. A few uses of flash should be enough to keep everything grouped nicely. If one of the blob parts starts heading off toward someone else, add in a shield lob to bring it back to you. The only thing the rest of your team should be doing while you get the bombs to split the blob into eight parts is to kill off any spriggan adds so they don't kill the bombs. (Of course, this depends on whether your teammates know how this fight works.)

The final boss fight isn't too hard to tank. Whichever strategy you use, success or failure will mostly come down to your DPS team. Can your DPS kill off the initial adds before they break the second wall, or can your DPS kill the boss before you're all overwhelmed by that second wall's adds. Of course, your own damage to the boss while you tank it also adds to that, but the challenge is in how much damage you're dealing more so than how much you're getting.

ok cool thamks that sounds very hopeful. I was kind of dreading this one. appreciate the help a lot.

Conjurers can also push the adds away from the wall with Fluid Aura, buying you a few extra seconds if your DPS' damage is on the slow side.

Just to answer your original question, the boss has a frontal cone attack that should mark the ground when it's being used. As others said, if for some reason you can't see the graphic, watch for the cast bar.

OK thanks all, heading in now :)

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there's two tricks to the final boss. The first is to go all out on dps with the boss and ignore the adds. ...

The other trick is to tank the boss next to the second opening. Since the adds don't initially aggro on anyone, the dps can safely attack them. ... your melee dps to quickly kill the adds and then attack the boss.

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I ran this last night on my archer and we used a combined approach suggested by the conjurer in our group. The lancer stayed on the boss the whole time, while I fought the adds emerging from the first wall. I was able to kill off the first several adds before I think it was about the fifth one that broke through the second wall. At that point I joined in the fight with the boss, but our lancer and gladiator had gotten him down to around 1/8 of his original health by that time, so the all-out DPS race didn't need to last very long.

Interesting strategy i will have to try that if the group wants to, was not able to do it last night as they closed for maintenance just as i got to the entrance to the mines :) The update sure made play smoother tho, it is nice.

It went well, thanks for a great team who knew what they were doing. The end boss battle went fast, we just worked on the main Enemy and ignored the Adds pretty much and it worked out fine. The blobs went pretty fast until i got killed due to a lag problem ..the healer and the two DPS guys got them all down and they were great. Lucky so many know what they are about here..and I am learning as fast as i can thanks for all the help here.

Finally made it thru, got a good group who knew what they were about and the Healer was especially good, so it went smoothly. The unexpected problem for me was severe lag so bad i could not move due to a runaway svghost on my own computer finally got it turned off and was able to do the final boss fight and we made it thru. the group was very nice about it all and i am glad to have made it thru the first three dungeons enoough to get on with my main story quest line. thanks for all the help here. The blobs went fast because the healer knew just what to do and i was able to flash spam them onto the hot spot. those big green blob monsters are sure icky...someone at SE has a good imagination.