SE and their ninja nerfs

Am I the only one annoyed by these? We pay for use of this product and I feel SE should be honest and forthcoming with ALL nerfs, buffs and changes. DD originally was described by the devs as "working correctly" but they perform a ninja nerf still. The wall in AK another ninja nerf. The pugalist skill with slow ninja nerfed. Now maybe I'm wrong and the only one annoyed but if I pay to use a product and it's changed in anyway I feel we should be told about it. Now granted I dislike 90% of the ninja nerfs is beside the point so don't start the stop qq posts cause this is about being notified of changes not about agreeing with them. Also feel free to post any other ninja nerfs you have found.

What ninja nerfed being done on the wall on AK? They made it much easier to progress now?

Read the ToS. That's all I can say. SE have the right to do what they have done and also not give specifics to the community, whether they like it or not.

you pay for a game that is going to change constantly, thus the online aspect. if you wanted a static game, you would play offline no? this has happened over any MMO i've seen, so the game evolved. there are so many aspects of this game that are there, they nerf things because they are overused. oh well!

They said lvl 50 dungeons were getting adjustments, its not ninja, just vague. What did they do to the wall?

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

Read the ToS. That's all I can say. SE have the right to do what they have done and also not give specifics to the community, whether they like it or not.

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Thanks for stating the obvious. I'm asking if it annoys others like it does me.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

They said lvl 50 dungeons were getting adjustments, its not ninja, just vague. What did they do to the wall?

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They slowed it's rotation and was done well before they announced changes to dungeons. Infact it was altered before speed running was fixed.

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Originally Posted by Blazn

Thanks for stating the obvious. I'm asking if it annoys others like it does me.

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I quote you then:

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Originally Posted by Blazn

...cause this is about being notified of changes...

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...in which I then 'obviously' stated why we don't have to be notified. Because we don't have that right at all, it's a privilege. No need to bite my head off for responding to your particular 'context'. Annoyed you may be, doesn't bother me, but I'll watch my step around more easily provoked and sensitive people.

People are still gonna run AK to max out myth. Still no incentive to run WP.. I was hopping they would increase the philosophy to 120+ to even out WP and CM.
Also no Halloween events or is that its not a holiday in Japan?

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

Also no Halloween events or is that its not a holiday in Japan?

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They have it ready it looks like... So I'm sure it's on its way soon. ^.^

So basically very little was changed - everyone is still stuck on AK, WP, CP and PR plus the 3 primals to farm tomes... I guess it was too much to ask to add the last 3 dungeons from level 41-47 to be added to the farming rotation... and the funny thing is, those three dungeons are actually slightly longer run and has more challenge.

So they changed the way the wall works now?

Nope, not annoyed at all. Because I am an adult, not a petulant child. If you can't understand something so simple as the difference between privileges and rights, then that is your problem.

WHAT HAPPENED ddo tttoo the walll?

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

So basically very little was changed - everyone is still stuck on AK, WP, CP and PR plus the 3 primals to farm tomes... I guess it was too much to ask to add the last 3 dungeons from level 41-47 to be added to the farming rotation... and the funny thing is, those three dungeons are actually slightly longer run and has more challenge.

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I suspect the reason they didnt add the others is because by the time you get to 50 you can have all your darklight as soon as you get there. They can just farm those dungeons as they lvl their jobs and not have to do anything to go from af to darklight as soon as they ping 50. That makes complete sense to me.

I pay the government lots of money every year and they don't tell me anything. Hell, they even have unplanned maintenance. Don't see me rioting on their forums. Chill people :(

Ninja they added ninja to game cool i been waiting for a new class to open ........

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

Nope, not annoyed at all. Because I am an adult, not a petulant child. If you can't understand something so simple as the difference between privileges and rights, then that is your problem.

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So your a adult? Yet you try to toss half ass insults on the net, and apparently consider people who are annoyed by something to be children.... Are you sure you are not 14 trying to act older? I understand it's a "privilege" but that doesn't mean the lack of notice cannot be annoying, but thanks for trying to talk down to others online hopefully it boosted your ego for a few.

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Originally Posted by Naelle

I pay the government lots of money every year and they don't tell me anything. Hell, they even have unplanned maintenance. Don't see me rioting on their forums. Chill people :(

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This is far from a riot just seeing if it has annoyed anyone else. But good try attempting to twist the point of my post to fit your reply.

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Originally Posted by BloodOmen

I suspect the reason they didnt add the others is because by the time you get to 50 you can have all your darklight as soon as you get there. They can just farm those dungeons as they lvl their jobs and not have to do anything to go from af to darklight as soon as they ping 50. That makes complete sense to me.

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It should not be a problem at all considering it takes longer to farm there - which means more longevity. Also the bosses and mechanic on those dungeons are FAR more annoying compared to the CM, WP, and AK. At the end it gives those at lvl 50s option to synch down, reducing congestion. Also if everyone do those dungeon runs, meaning less crowded FATEs, and more people actually have to practice for some bosses mechanic.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

It should not be a problem at all considering it takes longer to farm there - which means more longevity. Also the bosses and mechanic on those dungeons are FAR more annoying compared to the CM, WP, and AK. At the end it gives those at lvl 50s option to synch down, reducing congestion. Also if everyone do those dungeon runs, meaning less crowded FATEs, and more people actually have to practice for some bosses mechanic.

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I understand what you are saying but you farm for stones for 50 gear at level 50 when those areas to farm are open. You don't do it at level 41 in stone vigil. It makes it too easy to access the gear without working for it as everyone else has (after level 50). It makes it to where they have all the stones they need by the time they get to 50 to get the gear. That is not how it needs to be structured.

Once you hit 50 and already have the stones for the gear, what is there to work for?

Whats this I'm hearing about Demon Wall? Was it slowed a 2nd time now?

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Originally Posted by Seresibyl

WHAT HAPPENED ddo tttoo the walll?

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He already answered that. Read the whole thread. :P To all the people caught on demon wall he answered this. This is another case of only reading the first comment. He's talking about it originally being slowed. Not that it was slowed again. He's not talking about just this patch but in general.

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Originally Posted by Seresibyl

WHAT HAPPENED ddo tttoo the walll?

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The combat music is now Pink Floyd.

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Originally Posted by Dashuto

Whats this I'm hearing about Demon Wall? Was it slowed a 2nd time now?

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It really needs to be slowed down... it does no favor to the healers... now we can just do it and not actually wipe due some stupid game mechanic, worse if you have lags. At the end of the day, it's all about "wasting player's time" with activities for a set amount of time to extend the game longevity - aka "grinding". Which is totally fine and acceptable for this type of game, just add more VARIETY to grind at level 50 so that I can log in and do FIVE tomes dungeons a day and not have to repeat ANY one of them in one given day unless I want to do more than five. Let's face it, I will have to repeat the same five different dungeons every single day or so if I want to cap DL gears fast - or I can choose to do the same five three times a week if I want to take it slow.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

It really needs to be slowed down... it does no favor to the healers... now we can just do it and not actually wipe due some stupid game mechanic, worse if you have lags. At the end of the day, it's all about "wasting player's time" with activities for a set amount of time to extend the game longevity - aka "grinding". Which is totally fine and acceptable for this type of game, just add more VARIETY to grind at level 50 so that I can log in and do FIVE tomes dungeons a day and not have to repeat ANY one of them in one given day unless I want to do more than five. Let's face it, I will have to repeat the same five different dungeons every single day or so if I want to cap DL gears fast - or I can choose to do the same five three times a week if I want to take it slow.

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Demon wall is easy on healers. Just move and throw out an aoe heal every now and then. The biggest hurdle is people falling off ledges from not paying attention.

I don't mind ninja nerfs. I don't need to know every single adjustment devs do to their game. I like some things unknown. It is less boring that way . It keeps me on my toes.

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Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie

Nope, not annoyed at all. Because I am an adult, not a petulant child. If you can't understand something so simple as the difference between privileges and rights, then that is your problem.

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

Read the ToS. That's all I can say. SE have the right to do what they have done and also not give specifics to the community, whether they like it or not.

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Ohhh I've always wondered what those medals to the left meant. I think I know now.

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

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Also no Halloween events or is that its not a holiday in Japan?

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Starts on Friday.

Just because DD was "working as intended" doesn't mean they can't eventually come to the conclusion that "as intended" wasn't working.

crying because of a nerf of DD is really being bad faith ...
Yet it is clear that these mobs permanent pop was not a feature.

I agree! Ninja nerfs are unfair to ninjas! How do you unlock Ninja anyways?

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

It really needs to be slowed down... it does no favor to the healers... now we can just do it and not actually wipe due some stupid game mechanic, worse if you have lags. At the end of the day, it's all about "wasting player's time" with activities for a set amount of time to extend the game longevity - aka "grinding". Which is totally fine and acceptable for this type of game, just add more VARIETY to grind at level 50 so that I can log in and do FIVE tomes dungeons a day and not have to repeat ANY one of them in one given day unless I want to do more than five. Let's face it, I will have to repeat the same five different dungeons every single day or so if I want to cap DL gears fast - or I can choose to do the same five three times a week if I want to take it slow.

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I spent the vast majority of the Demon Wall fight nuking with Scholar. It didn't need to be nerfed at all.

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Originally Posted by Keoregh

crying because of a nerf of DD is really being bad faith ...
Yet it is clear that these mobs permanent pop was not a feature.

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Honestly idc about the dd nerf only that they claim it was fine but ninja a nerf anyways. Also I find it funny that you think this thread is crying over the dd nerf just shows people read half a post and ignore the rest when forming a opinion.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Just because DD was "working as intended" doesn't mean they can't eventually come to the conclusion that "as intended" wasn't working.

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This says it all.