Camaraderie Through Combat [New PVP Preview Vid on dev blog]

I searched but did not find a thread on this, apologies if there is one but the Bayohne posted this up in the dev blog today. [Oct 14,13]

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Camaraderie Through Combat

10/14/2013

Greetings, all!
Bayohne here, excited to offer another peek at upcoming content from patch 2.1!

NYCC attendees were able to visit the Intel Extreme Masters area where they could earn prizes by challenging FATEs! The team at NYCC also held a special presentation on Sunday where they discussed a few points about the upcoming PvP content that will be introduced in patch 2.1.

During the presentation, we revealed a new video that takes a look at the PvP coming soon to Eorzea! Take a look!
What do you think? Personally, I can't wait to beat up my friends!
- Bayohne

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Link to blog post with you tube vid

So what do you all think ? I think its a bit bright like fireworks display bright.. and that can be adjusted in config so no biggy.. but otherwise I am eager to see how this works out. This coming from someone who does not normally like PVP/Arena I hope they allow for live watching so we do not have to wait for people's youtube posts or livestreams.

Sleep will be disabled, during Phase 4 DAM it was over-powered.

Me and a friend duo'd BLM/WHM and pretty much trashed every single match bar one or two (where the other team did the same thing) and over-powered us.

I might try it a couple times, but generally I'm not a huge fan of the no-frills attack-everyone-and-that's-it style of PVP. I tend to prefer PVP that has a purpose or mission to it, like Ballista from FFXI or even Huttball from SWTOR.

Meh, hopefully it's cool for those people who enjoy PVP.

Not my cup of tea and I'll leave it at that.

Could be fun... always wanted to whack a cat person with my book.

Hi, I'm Antanias Lebreska. Nice to defeat you :P

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Originally Posted by veg

Could be fun... always wanted to whack a cat person with my book.

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Blasphemy :O

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Originally Posted by Gaddes

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I don't know why but that signature is like the scariest thing I've seen on these forums.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Meh, hopefully it's cool for those people who enjoy PVP.

Not my cup of tea and I'll leave it at that.

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Exactly my thoughts, but didn't the devs{maybe a user speculation thread} mention something about special vanity items and a mount you can earn through PvP?

If so then I'll have to suffer through it enough to earn those, primarily the mount!

Hmmm, so much standing around. Not much terrain to use. I really wanted the pvp to b fun. Something like the scenarios in early warhammer. Will have to wait and see :).

No offense but this looks boring as Jesus hell.

This is only the beginning of epicness, a small taste of whats to come in large scale Frontline

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Originally Posted by Esmian

I don't know why but that signature is like the scariest thing I've seen on these forums.

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Don't like smiling elezens?
..... 8D

Not trolling or anything . I like the game but dam does that pvp look boring. Stand In one spot and take turns hitting each other.

I hope they are just playing around with combat and it's not in anyway previewing the actual battleground, otherwise it looks boring as hell.
Arena style fights get old so fast, we need objectives, sieges , capture the flag, kill the other teams captain and so on.

Lol at that vid. So if it's what I think it is which is essentially a WoW arena, I won't be bothering.

Real vids with real players will have people running around a pillar until one team wins.

Give me Huttball, Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, Alterac Valley, GW2 spvp/WvWvW, etc pls. Not......this.

That looks soooo lame and exactly like a WoW arena. BOO! HISS!

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Originally Posted by Esmian

I don't know why but that signature is like the scariest thing I've seen on these forums.

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<_<; Whenever I see that signature I'm always reminded of the scene in Disney's Hercules where Hercules and Phil go to Thebes and this guy jumps out at them and is all like "Hey Mac, wanna buy a sundial? /opens robe" >_>;;

Do a complete knockoff of huttball and call it blitzball or something and I'll subscribe forever.

Actually that has to be one of the most boring pvp trailers ive ever seen. sorry devs im just being honest. For one people just stood around to some extent. I can see archers winning hardcore style and BLM being the little red headed step childs of the whole thing. All an archer has to do is pull out of BLM range as he casts and move back in and hes interrupted. Just look like a bunch of fireworks to me. Meh. I was expecting a bit more than this. I guess we'll see once it comes out but this just confirms what i had thought was going to happen all along.

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Originally Posted by Anapingofness

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Whenever I see it, I'm reminded of Herman Cain's ad campaign.

Back on topic, why do trailers for PVP always involve the characters standing in place just swinging with each other even though no sane PVP player would do this ever? "Let's show a trailer of us playing the game in the most boring way possible! That'll get people excited"

There must be some objective or gimmick to the fights or this will fail very fast. Especially because it is only 4v4. i doubt they will fix this though. just like guildhests no one will play it.

Did not get a chance to beta test the pvp because I was not the right level to access the PVP area...so I was surprised that it was not open world like Ballista, with scenery. I never tried arena or even PVP before and not sure what to expect, no references by which I can compare to good or bad Arena PVP. I was honestly REAL distracted by the weapon skill animations creating a light show [shinys]. I have mine turned down in game, thus it kinda took me by surprise seeing max ws animations. With so many peeps saying its boring, it has me wondering now if it is indeed boring.

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Originally Posted by Esmian

Back on topic, why do trailers for PVP always involve the characters standing in place just swinging with each other even though no sane PVP player would do this ever? "Let's show a trailer of us playing the game in the most boring way possible! That'll get people excited"

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Probably because if you were to see an archer kiting the hell out of enemy players like you know they will be you'd be hearing calls for archer nerfs before PvP even were to come out. >.>;;;

"Special PvP-only actions grant immediate recovery from sleep, bind and other enfeeblement effects, guaranteeing these gladiatorial battles will be extremely action-packed. " while i understand why this would be relevant in PvP .. cant we just have shorter CC while in PvP because immediate recovery from enfeeblements and other weaknesses? well.. this totally doesnt fuck over Arc or Sum which rely 100% on debuffs and stuff -_-

its a nice vid promo i like the way they had the bard/archer fighting a mage cuz lets face it against a melee they will just kite them all day

not to be a hater, but this looks really lame and not very innovative at all, all i'm seeing is a 4v4 arena , and slow place combat , must be something to do with crappy global cooldowns ffxiv has as a poors man way to balance a game >.> not hateing honest....then there is fact that it really is a 4v4 WoW arena clone, i mean come on. its 2013 almost 2014 SE we shouldnt be getting this kind of content as a form of pvp, you should know that by now, all u have do is ask your community what they want in pvp, and you will notice this is not what they want, so much for being intouch with you fan base. you apologize to failzor of your last mmo, you learn your lesson, but fail continue to listen, once you sold and done job of makeing the game, what are we just bunch of hamster on a wheel or something? i expected more from you guy's i respected your company and FF franchis but this is got to be a joke.

It's nice that they show PC's hitting other PC's... but, that's not what these PvP teaser or reveal videos are supposed to be about. I can see my character hitting things all day long as i play, i don't see how me seeing the same effects happen to other players is supposed to pump me up.

What we -DO- need to see is examples of the system they're putting in place. Is it just going to be the PvE skillset with trinkets to get out of CC? Is it going to be new skill added for PvP for us to use instead of our normal skillset?

I want to know things about the pvp, since this is it's introduction. If they're introducing a new map or something in the future, then action shots are fine.. but for PvP's -launch- they need to give us something substantial that we can get excited for.

Additional thought: I hope that Square also improves the communication between client/server. I know that there have been problems with melee attacking moving targets even if they're keeping right next to them.. if those kind of problems persist in pvp, then it will be nothing but a kite-fest by archers and/or mages instant cast spells.

This looks terrible.

Most ppl in mmos don't like to pvp because of high pride of their character and watching themselves fall in battle against others tends to leave a depression on said player but, I think said people need to remember, it's a game, it's for fun, and you can always improve yourselves, so instead of high pride, have higher spirits and raise the bar every chance you get.

that standing still while in combat
that back pedaling

It will be a slaughter fest if this is how people will seriously PvP, and it will be hilarious.

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Damie: There must be some objective or gimmick to the fights or this will fail very fast. Especially because it is only 4v4. i doubt they will fix this though. just like guildhests no one will play it.

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that's the entire point of Arena PvP, it's not about completing some gimmick or objective. It's about who is the best at their skill set, and who can adapt best to the challenges they are presented against another player. It will be quick, but that's the point.

This is the dumbest PvP promo video I've ever seen. Everyone standing still, both tanks smacking each other for zero damage while the DPS duke it out and the healers just stand back and do their thing.

That being said, I'm still looking forward to the actual PvP itself. It's my favorite thing to do in most MMOs and although I have no delusions that ARR's PvP will actually be any good, it should still be an interesting little diversion.

Does this mean no pvp gear? :S

Tbh, I hope their Frontlines thing is more akin to Ballista 2.0 because I really enjoyed Ballista both. I liked that I could both participate in matches or if I was running through that zone, watch them.

As for 4x4- eh... well it just looked like standard arena matches... XD
What I tell myself about the promo is that this *is* SE we're talking about so they have to make sure to show off how shiny everything is first which includes showing the zone, the players and then the PvP itself.
The reality of the 4x4 matches hopefully going to be much different. I anticipate fairly quick matches like less than 5min per match since as many of you pointed out, nobody is actually that slow or organized in actual PvP. XD