FFXIV VGA performance help

Hello all ^^, I currently have a ati5770, it gives me 30-50 FPS on mid settings (1680x1050)... Now I want to buy a VGA to play on high settings in 1920x1080.
I was thinking on buy the ATI6950 or gtx560TI.
I ask you for ideas and info about performance of both of this VGAs in FF :D
(thank you!) :D

I had a HD 5770 then bought a new PC and this one has a HD 6950 and it plays great in 1080p. Also you can do a BIOS flash or something on the HD 6950 which increases the performance to that of a HD 6970 which is what I had done and it did make a fair bit of difference.

you can play on max settings at 60fps in uldah or gridania?

what do u consider max settings? with AO and DoF turned off, you can play really smoothly with either card. maybe the 560ti will be a lil bit better since the game advertises optimization for nvidia cards

i do not care about AO, but DoF and 4x AF would be fine

i just installed 2 6850s and they work wonders went from 10-30 to 45-60fps everything maxed but A0 i did reasearch and saw too many complaints about cooling for 6950s think i spent 340$s for 2 XFX ATI HD6850s so nice now when i use an ability and i see the animation right off the bat lol. It seems that Nvidia cards have less complaints about cooling issues but ive always been ATI person and never had a problem w/ any cards ive had int he past.

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

i just installed 2 6850s and they work wonders went from 10-30 to 45-60fps everything maxed but A0 i did reasearch and saw too many complaints about cooling for 6950s think i spent 340$s for 2 XFX ATI HD6850s so nice now when i use an ability and i see the animation right off the bat lol. It seems that Nvidia cards have less complaints about cooling issues but ive always been ATI person and never had a problem w/ any cards ive had int he past.

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How does 1 6850 does? I don't feel like buying a new mobo just to crossfire but i do want to play on High setting i don't really care much about AO i just want to play little higher setting then what i am now :)

should be pretty damn good w/ just 1 installed i actually only got 2 because i got a very good rebate deal on 2 lol i payed 340 and got 2 50$ rebates. I was using a HD5450 before and getting 10-30 (40$) video card now using the HD6850's and getting 45-60 (200ish $ card) 340$ for 2 and 2 50$ rebates 240$ great investment. Now i need to upgrade my processor and ill prob have even better results.

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

should be pretty damn good w/ just 1 installed i actually only got 2 because i got a very good rebate deal on 2 lol i payed 340 and got 2 50$ rebates. I was using a HD5450 before and getting 10-30 (40$) video card now using the HD6850's and getting 45-60 (200ish $ card) 340$ for 2 and 2 50$ rebates 240$ great investment. Now i need to upgrade my processor and ill prob have even better results.

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thanks :) i look into getting a new video card but by the time i do maybe the higher version are around that same cost and buy that version :)

in 6months the 6850 will most likely be 120$s or less lol you might find it even more of a hassle to go up to even higher tier video card too if your powersupply isnt sufficient . think u need a 550watt for 6850 and a 700 for 6950? and on top of tht it needs to have a single 6pin connector thats part of the powersupply so it needs to be a certified powersupply which usually run 100+ for cheap ones and 150+ for name brand ones.

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

in 6months the 6850 will most likely be 120$s or less lol you might find it even more of a hassle to go up to even higher tier video card too if your powersupply isnt sufficient . think u need a 550watt for 6850 and a 700 for 6950? and on top of tht it needs to have a single 6pin connector thats part of the powersupply so it needs to be a certified powersupply which usually run 100+ for cheap ones and 150+ for name brand ones.

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PSU is no issue i can upgrade that without issue i just can't crossfire because i never got a mobo with two PCI

I have 2 5850s in CrossfireX and use Radeon Pro. I deleted my FFXIV Radeon Pro Profile when AMD released the FFXIV profile - I just keep Radeon Pro enabled as it unlocks some extra features on my cards the standard drivers don't. I also use Game Booster (Formally the free edition but I spend the 15 € on the Pro Edition). I'd really recommend you try the free edition, I noticed a big boost in reactive performance.

I now dance around everywhere at 55-60 fps and have next to 0 lag in response from my Gamepad, even in a busy Ul'dah and everything looks sweet. I have AA x4 DoF on, AO off (of course) and everything cranked up to max.

i run 2x 5770s crossfire and i could never get radeon pro to work. it always crashes ffxiv on startup. in the end, i just ended up playing ffxiv in fullscreen window'd so im not even taking advantage of crossfire...but even in window'd mode running 1 5770, im getting solid gameplay with settings of 1920x1080, 8 for general draw quality and 5 for background, dof/ao off. i would say lowerest 25ish fps and steady 30-40 fps even in group battles and a lot going on screen.

the only time i would stutter if say i was running and the game transistions somehow, like coming from outside and running into uldah. i think a faster HD like a SSD drive will aleviate some of that stuttering.

but anyways, if you try to run anything over 8 general draw, ur gonna need a beefed up computer like a i7 980x, a couple of 590s (don't quote me on this) cause for medium to high settings, this game is pretty optimized (dont quote me on this). anything above that, the scaling is so hard that just going from 8-9 or 9-10 general draw requires a ton more cpu/gpu (don't quote me on this) power.

wow thank you for response! ^^, I hope SE give us better performance with crossfire and also single gpu cards. Now I'm thinking in buy the 6950, if someone know about the performance with this VGA in FF please /tell lol

I got a HD 6950 and I run FFXIV on on the following settings:

Windowed -1920x1080
8x CSAA
General Drawing Quality - 10 (max)
Background Drawing Quality - 5 (max)
Shadows - Standard
Texture Quality - High (max)
Texture Filtering - Highest

AO and DoF - Off

With these I get 60fps out in the field and in Ul'dah 40-45fps. You can get a lot better fps though if you do this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/159

It basically gives the HD6950 the same performance as the more expensive HD6970 by unlocking the shaders. The HD6950 has two BIOS settings which you can switch between just by flicking a switch. One you can mod one you can't so I have the HD6970 settings on one (which did make a big difference) but I am running the standard BIOS atm as cooling does become and issue with FFXIV running them and fan noise was annoying so I am awaiting some extra cooling before I run the HD6970 BIOS full time with quieter fans.

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Originally Posted by Grundy

I have 2 5850s in CrossfireX and use Radeon Pro. I deleted my FFXIV Radeon Pro Profile when AMD released the FFXIV profile - I just keep Radeon Pro enabled as it unlocks some extra features on my cards the standard drivers don't. I also use Game Booster (Formally the free edition but I spend the 15 € on the Pro Edition). I'd really recommend you try the free edition, I noticed a big boost in reactive performance.

I now dance around everywhere at 55-60 fps and have next to 0 lag in response from my Gamepad, even in a busy Ul'dah and everything looks sweet. I have AA x4 DoF on, AO off (of course) and everything cranked up to max.

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what the website for Game Booster trying to find it but there so many site which you can download from i like the real website :)

Edit Nvm got the full version premium i wonder how much would this help i try this before and did not really see much let's see if ican tell the diff now.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I got a HD 6950 and I run FFXIV on on the following settings:

Windowed -1920x1080
8x CSAA
General Drawing Quality - 10 (max)
Background Drawing Quality - 5 (max)
Shadows - Standard
Texture Quality - High (max)
Texture Filtering - Highest

AO and DoF - Off

With these I get 60fps out in the field and in Ul'dah 40-45fps. You can get a lot better fps though if you do this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...ng/vidcard/159

It basically gives the HD6950 the same performance as the more expensive HD6970 by unlocking the shaders. The HD6950 has two BIOS settings which you can switch between just by flicking a switch. One you can mod one you can't so I have the HD6970 settings on one (which did make a big difference) but I am running the standard BIOS atm as cooling does become and issue with FFXIV running them and fan noise was annoying so I am awaiting some extra cooling before I run the HD6970 BIOS full time with quieter fans.

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thank you so much! that's the info i was searching for! n__n, now i'm sure i'll buy the 6950 and unlock it in the future ^^
*i'm going to ebay lol*

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Originally Posted by Xquiel

thank you so much! that's the info i was searching for! n__n, now i'm sure i'll buy the 6950 and unlock it in the future ^^
*i'm going to ebay lol*

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No prob, I just did a bit of research about the temp's it reaches as I was concerned because it was at around 85-90C when running FFXIV but it seems that is nothing to be worried about and is just normal so going to switch back to the HD6950 BIOS now. When I get a chance I will run the Benchmark if you want on both so you can see the difference I can't remember what it was exactly but it was pretty big.

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Got the benchmark scores here though I am sure it was over 5000+ with the unlock before so going to see what I messed up, but this is what I got so far running on high settings:

HD6950 Stock:
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...1-39-06-67.jpg

HD6950 Unlocked Shaders:
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...3-03-26-81.jpg

Also I forgot that I changed my BIOS back to a HD6950 and used this unlock method as it is supposed to be safer, but I haven't really heard any complaint's about using the HD6970 BIOS method really so go with whichever you want I guess. Thinking about it I am sure I got the 5000+ score with the HD6970 BIOS as that was the one I was running for a while until I did this switch so maybe that method does work better. Here is a link to the other unlock method that keeps the HD6950 BIOS which is supposed to put less strain on the card.

http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/923...hz-shader.html

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

No prob, I just did a bit of research about the temp's it reaches as I was concerned because it was at around 85-90C when running FFXIV but it seems that is nothing to be worried about and is just normal so going to switch back to the HD6950 BIOS now. When I get a chance I will run the Benchmark if you want on both so you can see the difference I can't remember what it was exactly but it was pretty big.

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Yes FFXIV run around 75-95C with ATI there noting really you can do not if you want to waste money on more Fan or a new cooling system for your Video card. One of the dev team did say that SE is going to fix the issue with computers so i hoping it would lowers down the temp and allow us to play in higher setting.

In beta1 i could not even play
Beta2 i could play pretty good but uncap FPS was bad
Beta3 was 60FPS

Then it away was 85-95C too patch 1.17 which made my ati drop 10-15C :)