AH pricing solution (Partial) Consignment House

A consignment house is a reverse AH, specifically designed for crafter/Fieldcraft to pick and choose their jobs instead of selling their work.

Basically it works like this:

A player goes up to the consignment board, browses recipies, repairs, and melds in an interface similar to that of the AH.

When he finds the item he wants he selects it, and places with it the amount of money he's willing to pay for the item, and the quantity he wants (if stackable) through his retainer. If the job is a meld or item repair, the specific item is also deposited.

Later, the crafter or fieldcrafter can come up, and using an interface that lets them pick the DoL/DoH set they are looking for work in, they see what other people want, and what they are willing to take for that job.

Anyone? Would like some community feedback.

I'd be happy just if we could get player bazaar and repair requests back in, they where there in 1.0 and I see no reason why they can't have it back in 2.0.
That way I could ask friends to toss me a quick repair while out in the field, instead of what you suggests which just limits repairs/meld/item purchase to towns.

XIesque Bazaar would be handy. It was fun checking party members in XI to try to find random good deals.

But since the current MB is equivalent to a bazaar, I understand why this is not implemented.

Bazaar would be useless right now with the auto logout imo

I LOVE this idea, make it happen.

Maybe if a dev sees it. Lol

I propose a modification to the Market Boards so players can create market orders similar to stock trading. The buy side should be able to set a quantity and price for an item they want to buy and then a time option to specify how long to keep the order. A checkbox will allow partial filling of the order. The order will remain open until the quantity and price requirements are met, at which the transaction is made. Limit the number of orders to prevent market failure. The sell side already works as intended but there should be two tabs on the market sheet, one for items for sale like how it is, and one for buy orders. A new button on the pricing window will be called Liquidate, which will fill the highest priced orders.

As for repairs and melding, that could work, but in the end, you'll just have bots camping that area for gil. You have to restrict the number of times per day a person can perform repairs/melds through that system.

I thought they posted in a letter in the last 6 months of having player offered requests like this in the future sometime. Id go back and try to find it, but idk how to even begin to search for it. But I remember it cause I suggested it in beta feedback, and when i saw it come up in a letter, i was like omg i suggested that. idk exactly what form of it they announced, but I'm pretty sure i saw something like this comming down the pike, sorry i don't have a source for you. Maybe a kid with more time then me will obsess over the letters/updates we were givin and find it for us. lol

I....actually really like this idea.

Players wouldn't be able to overcharge if they knew no one would take their offer, and crafters could get regular work creating only specifically what people want/need and know how much buyers are willing to pay for it.

SE. Do this. Please.

(although, honestly, I don't expect them to change the entire basis of their Market design to fit this request but I think it's one of the better market related suggestions)

Good idea +1 to this.

Make it happen SE

This idea was brought up several times before in the 1.0 boards, and dev response was positive about it. Hopefully it is still in the works.

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Originally Posted by Iecerint

XIesque Bazaar would be handy. It was fun checking party members in XI to try to find random good deals.

But since the current MB is equivalent to a bazaar, I understand why this is not implemented.

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bazaars were removed because people only used them as storage space and most of the time if you checked people's bazaars you only saw stuff for 999999999 gil and nothing actually for sale.

Also, i don't see how the suggestion would help with pricing issues (which, there aren't any, its simple supply and demand), if you didn't offer enough for the consignment they would just sell their stuff on the market instead.

I can see something like this taking a while to develop and implement, but would undoubtedly be worth it in the end.

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Originally Posted by Robert4818

A consignment house is a reverse AH, specifically designed for crafter/Fieldcraft to pick and choose their jobs instead of selling their work.

Basically it works like this:
A player goes up to the consignment board, browses recipies, repairs, and melds in an interface similar to that of the AH.

When he finds the item he wants he selects it, and places with it the amount of money he's willing to pay for the item, and the quantity he wants (if stackable) through his retainer. If the job is a meld or item repair, the specific item is also deposited.

Later, the crafter or fieldcrafter can come up, and using an interface that lets them pick the DoL/DoH set they are looking for work in, they see what other people want, and what they are willing to take for that job.

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I've long advocated for something like this.

We need Custom player-created leves for gathering and crafting complete with rewards, and even insurance for crafting requests ("insurance" would be a gil deposit that is consumed in lieu of the mats if a crafter fails to complete the leve).

This system would open the doors for all sorts of new crafting and gathering gameplay, including the creation of U/U material drops which could be leve-crafted by someone else for you.

It creates a balancing factor. Ah's drve costs down by focusing on the lowest seller. Ch's drive costs up by focusing on the highest buyer. It also focuses the economy somewhat by giving non crafters the ability to call for things they want. Not just what's being sold. Basically it helps express demand a bit better.

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Originally Posted by Vensaval

I can see something like this taking a while to develop and implement, but would undoubtedly be worth it in the end.

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I doubt it would take as long as you might think. The basic structure is very similar to the ah system. The underlying code should end up being a rework of the ah code.

Sounds like you just want buy orders. Like EVE: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8127/eve40.jpg

That's actually a really good idea. I like it!

I think Consignments or Buy Orders should be restricted somewhat or the whole server of DOL's will try and fill the same easy orders

I can see Consignments working if we started to have Grand Company specific recipies or drops or materials. That way we split the player base in 3 and the orders in 3's.

Say it worked similar to FF11's outpost NPC system, but where regional items are only farmable by players from the controlling Grand Company alliance for that week. That would always create a market of consignment orders as no one would be able to maintain self sufficiency.

The problem at the moment is supply and demand. There isnt enough demand because everyone and their grandmother can flood the markets with supply. Its not enough that supply is restricted by time spent gathering or farming. It should be restricted by regional control like 11.

At the moment it is strange anyone can be self sufficient farming mobs or gathering items so even though consignments would be a quality of life feature there is little need for it unless other matters are addressed too

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

That's actually a really good idea. I like it!

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Thanks! I also would love the ability to simply look for an item and set my price for it. Something much more useful as the game ages.

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Originally Posted by Robert4818

A consignment house is a reverse AH, specifically designed for crafter/Fieldcraft to pick and choose their jobs instead of selling their work.

Basically it works like this:

A player goes up to the consignment board, browses recipies, repairs, and melds in an interface similar to that of the AH.

When he finds the item he wants he selects it, and places with it the amount of money he's willing to pay for the item, and the quantity he wants (if stackable) through his retainer. If the job is a meld or item repair, the specific item is also deposited.

Later, the crafter or fieldcrafter can come up, and using an interface that lets them pick the DoL/DoH set they are looking for work in, they see what other people want, and what they are willing to take for that job.

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What you been smoking? ... lol