FIX DUNGEON QUEUE TIMES!

It's obvious that there is an abundance of damage dealing classes as opposed to healers and tanks but it shouldn't take an hour to find a group with the duty finder for anything! Broaden the cross-server matching possibilities with the duty finder! :mad:

The issue is with the jobs available--if you can't find a dedicated healer, have to wait for one.

I'm not very good at it, and I never really liked main healing. So, I never planned on leveling CNJ further than what was needed to unlock SMN... but I've been leveling it as we go so that a long time friend of mine and I never have to wait to get into our duty fights. I've gone a few times on a DD while he was on Tank. If after a few minutes we don't get in, we just back out and I job change to CNJ and BAM!, we get right in. Last few fights, didn't even bother--just bit the bullet and went on CNJ and shot right through the first time.

SE can't do much about the players unwilling to go in there on a dedicated healing job. This is a player driven issue more than a design issue.


Simply put, need more people willing to heal.

As a WHM for my primary class, even I have to wait in the queue. The shortage seems to be with tanks. More cross server matchmaking would be helpful tho. Or your could play a tank or healer and not have to wait as long. Or do what I do, and have a RL friend play a tank, and the two of you play together. Always insta-queue with a tank and healer ^^. But even with better matchmaking there will always be a wait for DPS. I'd be interested in seeing the ratio, but I'm guessing it's somewhere around 1 tank for every 10 dps, and 1 healer for every 5 dps. Even with better matchmaking you'd still have to wait. But this is just my observation, and we will only know if SE gives us the numbers.

As a tank, I never wait in queue. At all.

I am unsure on how broad the queue is but when I play DPS is will take a very long time. I just feel that this game doesn't have many tanks playing, most tanks don't even use the Duty Finder as most have dedicated groups. This is something that will always be a problem for DPS even if the queue is all servers. Everyone plays DPS.

The cross server search is already in place, and servers are grouped as follows:

-Group 1
Adamantoise／Balmung／Cactuar／Diabolos／Exodus／
Goblin／Hyperion／Lamia／Malboro／Moogle／Odin／
Ragnarok／Siren

-Group 2
Behemoth／Cerberus／Coeurl／Excalibur／Faerie／
Gilgamesh／Leviathan／Midgardsormr／Phoenix／
Sargatanas／Shiva／Ultros

The duty finder was splitted on 4th Sep because of "countermeasures to handle the influx of concurrent user counts"
Sources:
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...dd4fe2d529149/
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...8e3302a04632a/

Who knows if that countermeasure is still needed, but I don't think it would improve anything. Situation in both groups is exactly the same, merging them back would solve nothing.

SE can't make more people roll tanks and healers, Meimei. Which is the only thing that can fix the wait times.

Depending on the day/time you're queueing there is also the problem with maximum instances reached... although this is something they have taken steps to resolve and are continuing to take steps to resolve.

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Originally Posted by Urazn1

It's obvious that there is an abundance of damage dealing classes as opposed to healers and tanks but it shouldn't take an hour to find a group with the duty finder for anything! Broaden the cross-server matching possibilities with the duty finder! :mad:

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they initially had DF to search across all servers but caused way to many problems so they split them up to server groups. the problem is that that there are way more DD looking to do stuff compared to healers and tanks, thus causing the DD queue to bottleneck and causing such large queue times. i have BRD PLD and WAR so i understand your frustration. but when looking for shout groups as a BRD i find it easier to find groups via shout than as a tank since majority shout groups run 1 of 2 party configs 1xTank 6xDD 1xHealer or 1xTank 5xDD 2xHealer.

this is not something that SE can resolve, in most, if not all, MMO there is more DD than tanks and healers

Queueing as a healer for CM on prime time (EU) takes 10-25mins.

Just to contradict everyone: as a tank, I've queued a number of times - around 45 minutes for Ifrit and 15-20 for the Thousand Maws of Giant Diremite. And I teamed up with a healer before entering the latter dungeon. The waits are generally low, but the grass isn't always greener.

The only time I've had an insta-queue is with a Conjurer in a low level guildhest.

I remember BSGO added incentive buffs to unpopular classes (e.g. 50% exp for playing as a Cylon). Something like that might help push people into tanking and healing.

they could just give you end game tokens or something as an incentive for ppl who are max to run lower level dungeons, it works in gw2.

As a player that plays Tank and Healer, I would love to see incentives for me to really want to use duty finder. I rarely use it anymore because I tend to get people that make runs longer than I am willing to deal with. For Example me and my FC members can clear an AK in 25 minutes with no problems and when I solo queue with duty finder I am lucky if I can get it done in 45.

Had an AK group this morning where the DPS I got paired up with could barely get the Demon Wall to 50% before the first set of Bees Spawned. While I am used to the wall dying before the bees spawn or a couple of seconds after. Things like that are what keep competent tanks from wanting to even queue for duty finder without a full group anymore.

Now if we had incentives that would completely overlap the "Why the heck did I do this to myself!" moments I get every time I solo queue for anything then maybe I would be inclined to do it more. SE can add incentives which would be great but it takes very few bad groups for a tank to not want to do it anymore lol. So I fully understand why people do not want to tank in MMOs generally.

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Originally Posted by Jayplex

As a player that plays Tank and Healer, I would love to see incentives for me to really want to use duty finder. I rarely use it anymore because I tend to get people that make runs longer than I am willing to deal with. For Example me and my FC members can clear an AK in 25 minutes with no problems and when I solo queue with duty finder I am lucky if I can get it done in 45.

Had an AK group this morning where the DPS I got paired up with could barely get the Demon Wall to 50% before the first set of Bees Spawned. While I am used to the wall dying before the bees spawn or a couple of seconds after. Things like that are what keep competent tanks from wanting to even queue for duty finder without a full group anymore.

Now if we had incentives that would completely overlap the "Why the heck did I do this to myself!" moments I get every time I solo queue for anything then maybe I would be inclined to do it more. SE can add incentives which would be great but it takes very few bad groups for a tank to not want to do it anymore lol. So I fully understand why people do not want to tank in MMOs generally.

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This x100

If there is no incentive for me to tank lower level content i'm not touching it with 100ft pole... I already did my time not going thru that crap again...

also. alot of ppl do not use df for end game. they shout on their general servers. so how is it up to SE to fix df que times? and why would anyone df end game anyways? just saying. and on another note. there are farm more dps and healers then there are tanks. so naturally ques are gonna be longer for everyone. this isnt up to se to fix. its up to the players. but like i said everyone plays healers and dps so. i dont see the que times getting decent anytime soon. que times usually for healers in other mmos is about 8 mins. 20-30 for dps and usually instant for tanks to about 5 mins. but those others games have balanced population. to where has ff14 does not. so naturally que times are gonna be longer. ur just gonna have to have patience and wait it out if your going to use the df. sorry.