I play on PC but have wondered how it is on PS3. Are there any really noticeable differences in loading, graphics, etc? Are the controls easier or more difficult to manage? Which do you prefer?
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I play on PC but have wondered how it is on PS3. Are there any really noticeable differences in loading, graphics, etc? Are the controls easier or more difficult to manage? Which do you prefer?
Considering ps3 has 7 year old harware there's bound to be some differences in loading time and graphics, unless you're on some god forsaken old pc to begin with.
Pretty much what Makii said.
Also, I'm told it's harder to heal using a controller, so if you plan on picking up the PS3 version, check and see if you can attach a m&kb.
And, well, not that it matters to everyone, but I run this game on 2560x1400 resolution, and when I checked out my friends ps3 copy, well let's just say it wasn't enjoyable. It looked like someone had smeared butter all over the screen.
But it all depends on what you're used to I guess.
My take playing on both: I much prefer healing on controller on PS3, whereas I moderately prefer DPS on keyboard. I am told many people are the opposite, though I don't know why. Tanking on either scares me.
The controls are different, but I find them very natural for me once I get a good layout. The only annoying thing is how when you upgrade from CNJ to WHM it resets all your bars so you have to spend 10 minutes resetting them up before you save your new gear set.
Also, absolutely you still want a mouse and keyboard. Mouse for the configuration UI and the occasional odd things. Keyboard for setting up macros, and of course chat.
Load time is slower than on PC if you are using the stock hard drive. I haven't tried on the 12GB PS3 which uses flash so I don't know if that one has the same issue but others report SSD solve the loading problem in any case. That said my PC also has crappy load times, so it would not surprise me at all if at all came down to the old harddrives.
My PS3 is better quality graphics than my PC which is at low settings, but of course it will be worse graphics than the PC if you have any graphics setting above midline. The PC high end graphics are amazing compared to the low end PC graphics I have, so I usually stick with my PS3. But I am really looking forward to PS4 so I can get the awesome.
If you have a high end gaming PC, use it. If you are more of a console gamer, stick with PS3/PS4. I myself play on the PS3 and have no real issues that are not also present on the PC, and it is a blast. Making the game playable for the PS3 wasn't to make one version better or worse than the other, it was to broaden the audience so that players that were not interested or couldn't afford a good gaming PC could still play.
So in short, a PC can do anything a PS3 can do and then some so stick with PC if you have a good one. If you prefer consoles or your PC is a little dated and don't want to upgrade just yet, play on the PS3. I used to play MMOs on the PC and playing this on the PS3 isn't any less enjoyable so you should be fine with whichever you decide. :)
PS3 have long loading time and slow loading model other members in party after CS, not to mention graphic. Heal with controller in party are fine but have problems with heal other PCs during FATE.
Also, on the PC you're quite free to play with the profile data files to copy your hotbar settings, HUD settings, gearsets, etc to other characters and make backups and so on. (Although this function will be built-in to the game in future, as devs already announced their plans to add it.)
Plus, the PS3 version is likely only be able to use add-ons that have been screened and approved by Square Enix; however, on the PC you're likely going to be able to use any and all add-ons you can find. So there's likely to be more freedom on the PC.
Likely. Because there have been little to no info on add-ons, only that it'll come out in future updates.
The PC also opens the door to third party tools like video capturing and so on, which isn't that straight-forward on the PS3.
Control-wise, you can use the gamepad on the PC and the keyboard on the PS3 anyway (although I'm not sure if it's possible to use only keyboard-mouse mode on the PS3 version, anyone?) There's nothing inherently "less controllable" on the PS3.
If you are looking to buy a PS3, then, I'd say hold off your horses and wait for the PS4. Play with whatever hardware you have now on the PC. (Note, however, that when the PS4 lauches, there will only be the beta version of FFXIV:ARR for the PS4. Details are slim and I'm not sure if that "beta" allows you to already participate in the current live servers.)
After searching for quite some time on PS3 menus I found that there absolutely no way to play with just a keyboard/mouse. PS3 menus are missing the Display tab under Hotbar Settings which would allow us to use a keyboard for abilities/spells. Because it is missing we are forced to use a controller unless we want to go to the Actions and Traits menu and manually select every ability/spell we want to use. In other words, a keyboard can only be used to type and run around on a PS3.
Big fates such as Behe, Titan, Scara are impossible on PS3.
TLDR: If you want the inferior version, go for PS3.
This is basically my take on the keyboard/controller argument. It might be a little easier to heal people at random fates on a keyboard and mouse, but it most certainly easier to heal people in groups with the controller (it did take a little getting use to it though). Working as a Scholar, this comes in handy because we don't have the big AoE heals like White Mages, so you have to switch targets often to keep everyone alive.
I'd say if you have a gaming rig then obviously stay on PC, but if you have a mid-low range PC or don't mind slightly bad graphics (not terrible but definitely not top range PC graphics) then get a PS3 copy. Also I find playing on PS3 a lot more relaxing than hunched over a desk. Not to mention that if you buy the PS3 version you get the PS4 version for free and that will eliminate any graphical differences when released but you do have to buy a PS4. It's personal preference to be honest and the only real way to know is to try it, but the PS3 isn't as bad as some may make out. Also an SSD really does help with every issue other than graphics and although they are fairly expensive for what they are you can get a bargain.
There is *currently* no mouse/keyboard control on PS3, but you can hook up a USB keyboard to "chat". Devs have said they will look into adding it at a later time. I play on both PC and PS3 myself and there is very little I cannot do on either system. Might not be the greatest for fate parties, but then I hardly ever do those since... well.. they are boring as *#!!. Graphics are decent, not awesome, just decent but they don't bother be whatsoever.
I've done all the big FATE that people have issues with on both PC and PS3(Odin, Behe,Scara) without having to deal with the boss disappearing all that often if at all in some cases. Shame Odin crashed Hyperion before we could kill him last time I fought him. Plus as I said the issue present in these FATE are present on both PS3 and PC.
Another one of these threads...
It's simple, do you have a good gaming PC? Then get the PC version. No? Get the PS3 version, and then later on you can upgrade to the PS4 version.
PS3 is the baseline, it works.
One thing I should note that the PS3 version performance is greatly improved if you use a SSD. Maps load faster, players appear faster, less FPS shutter and drops. The PS3 version relies on the HDD much more than the PC version.
It's not an 'opinion'; it's fact. It is both easier to target PCs and use abilities with a keyboard/mouse. Keyboards can target players directly instead of having to scroll, and MMO mouses (look them up if you don't know what these are) make hitting abilities extremely easy.
Some of us prefer controller over keyboard here, that is what makes it an opinion, similarly, your perspective that mouse and keyboard is faster presumably comes from your own experience, which is thus also subjective opinion. If using a controller were universally inferior to keyboard and mouse, none of us who use both would ever disagree with you. But some of us do, thus what makes it subjective opinion, not fact.
To expand on this a bit logically, you could argue that anyone who is equally proficient in both will in fact find the keyboard to be superior, thus implying that those of us who disagree simply don't know how to use a keyboard properly(although you didn't clarify that in your argument), however without a rigorously performed test covering both groups, including neutral parties, specifically testing with this game (to be a proper benchmark), you have no more standing to state it is fact than those who disagree with you do.
Further any test which does not in fact take into account those who use both but prefer one or the other, but only takes into account those who prefer keyboard, is not a neutral test, and as such any findings would be suspect.
My guess however is that you are falling prey to argumentum ad populum here, wherein you have no objective test to back up your opinion, merely popular opinion, which you are taking to be fact.
Same mistake as the above poster. I think far too many people don't understand what "objective" means, nor "fact". I too use both systems. They both require a different approach to the game, and until such time as a study is made proving that one approach is inherently superior, your "objective" "fact" is based on this: your personal play style. That isn't objective at all, it is very subjective.
There is nothing wrong with preferring one over the other. The mistake is in stating one is "objectively" superior, based on that preference.
I personally think that the controller is superior in every way for party healing as a WHM. This doesn't make it objectively superior, nor a fact, however.
Your personal preference based on your own personal play style is no more objective than mine is.
(Note, I am not trying to be argumentative here.. I am trying to point out the logical fallacy people are making in this discussion. It is the key difference between scientific method, and popular opinion. Substantiate your opinion, or it is still just opinion, not fact, no matter how strongly you believe it)
I have both versions of the game and play regularly on both. I use the PC for Dungeons and Fates because yes the PS3 does have some issues with events that have a lot going on (Fates) or require precision gameplay (Dungeons) I use the PS3 for pretty much everything else, questing, crafting, gathering, exploring. Cause you cant beat laying on the couch with the big screen while doing the boring stuff lol
I'm on PC but who says you have to hunch over a desk. Got it hooked up to the big TV and playing on the couch with my feet up using mouse and nostromo. Keyboard is there in case I need to chat. It's great.
I play on PS3 and have no probs ever, ZERO crashes since launch. The game has ok graphics. But you know what. If you have money and want to get the best out of your PC's hardware and can afford it for the game, then go do that. But if you have a sub par performance PC then just get the game on PS3 and don't spend a penny more other than the sub. My BFF plays it on PC and after 6 months later his pristine new NVIDIA card fried on him due to too much FFXIV he went to spend another $200 more. F+++ THAT! Waste of money just to play an MMO on a PC. If you don't got the money, be grateful enough the PS3 version can play great at 30FPS and get the same experience of the game.
I'm an idort, but PC all the way in terms of this game. The low end graphics on the PS3 simply make the game far less impressive too me; one of the things that struck me about this game was how beautiful it could be on max settings and I don't want to play it looking like someone put a blurry film over my screen. The other thing is the controller, I would very much not want to have to heal more difficult fights without the keyboard.
I Play on a PC with a standard 102 keyboard and a Razor Mouse (Death Adder). I basically play with 1 hand. I keep my left hand on the keyboard so I can press WASD, Alt, Ctrl, Shift, 1 2 3 4 5 6, Q E R F C X Z A with my left hand to execute all my abilities and movement, and I keep my right hand on the mouse for camera positioning.
My PC is Massively Beefy, with 3 solid state drivers, good graphics card, and a 4.8ghz overclocked i5-2500k. Also I'm running on a WQHD monitor at 2560X1440, it's a huge difference over PC. My cutscnes load instantly, so I can skip them instantly. I zone faster than a PS3 (3+ second faster) / e.g. near instant. And my NIC is faster and my pings are lower on PC than PS3. Overall drastically less lag. Lag on my PC is nearly non existant. On the ps3 it spikes all the time.
I use both pretty consistently. Very good PC on weekends, PS3 on weekdays.
PC graphics are far better, and performance is way better.
Healing on M+KB is objectively better. That is a fact. Targetting, positioning, camera control, everything is better.
BUT it is very doable on PS3, especially if you're used to the controls. You can get close to M+KB performance.
That's all opinion.
I grew up on consoles and HATE, HATE, HATE m/k play. I'm pretty clumsy on the keyboard, so effectively I'm a "clicker" when forced to use a keyboard in MMO's. I love that SE realizes that gaming with a gamepad is always so much more fluid and intuitive and that there will always be people like me who prefer to game with anything but a keyboard/mouse. Ofc, this is what works for me.
It's always been a mystery to me why other games don't support a gamepad, which is a device that is made and better designed to "game" with.... I'll also never understand the PC elitist mentality that some PC gamers have. I respect console gamers just as much as PC gamers.
I have the best of both worlds, PC with a gamepad. ;)