Is there any hope of us getting a "VOTE-TO-KICK" system implemented in this game at any point? Because out of the last 6 CM runs I've done, I've had 3 ruined by the TANK standing at the entrance and going AFK to Leech easy Tomestones of Philosophy, I've had healers in full crafting gear telling me to; "Go f*ck myself" when I ask them to change because their gear isn't spiritbound yet, and just 2 decent runs without issue!
A Vote-to-kick system would allow groups to remove the AFK/Leeching player and quickly replace them so that the dungeon isn't ruined...so that after waiting upto 45minutes you don't just get a 1k gil repair bill and another 45min wait without at least some reward!!!
Because IMO sitting AFK at the start of a dungeon is taking advantage of the fact that a group cannot kick you, and is therefore exploiting an in-game system for free loot, which would technically be cheating...is this correct?
AFK'ing and Leeching in Dungeons - Castrum Meridianum
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10-12-2013, 12:39 AMDingo9012AFK'ing and Leeching in Dungeons - Castrum Meridianum
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10-12-2013, 01:26 AMSerenitySilvermoon
Or maybe it's because some of us want to ... I don't know... watch the cut scenes and not be rushed? Oh noes! They are trying to enjoy the game! I have already left a few instances because I was locked out of fights because people can't be patient.
In all seriousness though, it's irritating that people just want to rush. Let those of us who haven't done it yet do it. -
10-12-2013, 01:27 AMSinth
Report AFKer's & abusive players. They will be banned. I have already seen 2 people that I reported for similar stuff get the hammer.
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10-12-2013, 02:50 AMdarknetworki'm okay with people watching the cut scenes. but in my case this leecher's just keep watching the cut scene till the last boss's finished and then he went to the exitQuote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilvermoon
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10-12-2013, 07:05 AMSabaothI don't understand the problem here. If you are running CM for a speedrun, you usually shout for members with the intention of speed running. If your intention is to speed run, and you go through Duty Finder, you'll reap what you sow. Likewise, if you are running CM for the first time, or just really want to watch the cut-scenes again, and enter a speed run party through shouts, and then watch cut-scenes, you'll, again, reap what you sow.Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilvermoon
I'm just not sure how both groups of players could ever mingle together in the first place, and then complain about each other. -
10-12-2013, 07:16 AMBlossomRose
Are you people not reading a thing the OP said?
This isn't about cutscenes.
This is about, literally, someone who joins and stays at the entrance for the ENTIRE RUN. Not just to watch cutscenes. Yes, people do this. Yes, it can be reported, and you should be doing that. -
10-12-2013, 07:39 AMNinjiitstuNo you haven't. AFKing is not against the rules. Additionally, bots that have been PHYSICALLY CAUGHT by GM's, are only getting 72 hour suspensions. No one is getting banned for anything right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinth
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10-12-2013, 07:55 AMFuz
Has been said many times... AFKing is not against the rules.
It's a bit of a controversial matter.
I do agree with you... but he's not talking about people who watch the cutscenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilvermoon
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10-12-2013, 07:59 AMNoahlimitsActually, it is. Interfering with other players progress of the game is against the TOS. You're definitely impeding them or at the very least slowing them down quite a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninjiitstu
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10-12-2013, 08:40 AMBlossomRoseActually, you're wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninjiitstu
I have personally noticed that people I report for AFKing in those runs end up disappearing from the Lodestone, as if their characters were getting deleted.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you shouldn't be perma-AFK in dungeon runs if you want to keep your account.
And yes, I'm a stalker. I look up people on the Lodestone when I run into baddies in the DF, ever since I got told people's characters get deleted when they get permabanned and it's the best way to tell if your report accomplished something.
Joining a dungeon and then going AFK for a hour is against the rules.
Now mind you, going AFK for 5-10 minutes due to an emergency isn't. But any longer and you should really consider just bowing out instead of screwing your group over one body. -
10-15-2013, 07:36 AMAlmaMalma
Just had a player afk in CM - he'd done the same before in a run I was in. It was clear by when we got to the wall Cid blasts that he was leeching. So several 'Abuse of Game Mechanics' reports from the party members and 10 minutes later, he was ejected from it by a GM and a proper player was substituted in from DF queue. So report, takes a couple minutes out of the run time but denies a leech free tomestones, and hopefully earn them a nice ban!
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10-15-2013, 09:43 AMMrObjectWhile I don't doubt that the system worked for you, it doesn't work that way all the time. I've have entire CM groups report (or at least said they do) someone who literally stated at the beginning that they were just there for free tomes and they stayed there the entire run without any GM removing them from the group. Now you know what would have easily gotten them removed, vote kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmaMalma
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10-15-2013, 10:19 AMNaberrieJust curious, why does their gear need to be 100% spirit bound for CM? I'm curious because I just dinged 50 and a FC mate keeps asking me to do CM. There's no way my AF body is 100%. Probably only 5%. Haven't really done anything on BRD since I dinged 50 and got the body piece. Been busy crafting, farming and leveling WHM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo9012
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10-15-2013, 12:48 PMBlossomRoseStop whining about vote kick, it's coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrObject
They're just trying to figure out how to make it hard to abuse so people don't kick people for not being in full DL/relic gear or for watching cutscenes.
And either way, there you go. AFKing is against the rules. That idiot who said it was fine... geez. -
10-15-2013, 03:15 PMNymina
While you are not complaing about people who are there for the first time watching a cutscene, a vote to kick option will be a horrible idea for just this reason.
I did CM for the first time today, and stated as much at the very beginning and that "I will be watching all the cutscenes." The whole run I had to hear shit about "I wish there was a vote to kick option" concerning me being there to watch the cutscenes and do the dungeon for the first time. This was a duty finder group as well, where you should let people watch the cutscenes when it's their first time through. This feature will be completely abused by asshats to the detriment of people wanting to enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played.
And don't give me this bullshit about "Oh, you can just watch the cutscenes in your Inn Room." That's not the fucking same experience. -
10-15-2013, 03:17 PMBlossomRoseThat's why SE is taking their time designing it so that this can't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nymina
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10-15-2013, 03:45 PMAndrielEquipment needs a 100% spirit bond to be converted into materia. These players do that to acquire materia, not more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naberrie
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10-15-2013, 03:46 PMAndriel
Seriously.. Who the hell thought a 1000-character limit on posts would be a good idea?
Why would you care about their gear anyway? They're doing their job and you should be happy for it. When they're geared good enough to not wear their equipment, don't expect them to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo9012
Personally, I often run around there in a bikini.. Because I can, because it's fun and because it's the only way I don't generate more enmity than the tank(s) do. -
10-15-2013, 03:55 PMNaberrieI know that, but I'm not sure why having gear that's not spiritbound yet is an issue. I've never heard that before. Aside from reaching 100% so it can can be converted I've never heard of a use for it, nor why not having it would be an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andriel
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10-15-2013, 04:10 PMGrailerMaybe it was really bad crafted gear and they were slowing down group just to get 100% so they could convert .Quote:
Originally Posted by Naberrie
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10-15-2013, 04:10 PMHowar81Because is not an issue!Quote:
Originally Posted by Naberrie
lvl 70 DarkLight gear it can only raise spiritbound in Coil and lvl 90 gear just can't be spiritbound yet.
like Andriel said spiritbound only for materia not affect combat.