So you have a jerk in your group. He's trolling the dps, he's behaving well, like an 8 year old. What can you do? It's duty finder and the internet is anonymous right? This guy can get away with murder because hey, he doesn't know you and what he does won't impact him at all.
Try out this move, go to http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/
Then look up the characters name. This will give you lots of information about this person, and it's not a big deal from here to contact the GM of his free company to let them know what kind of person he has representing his guild. Sure, if you go at the GM with mad aggression you are not going to get a positive reaction from him. I guarantee if people keep telling this GM that his guy's a jerk they're going to have words. People act this way because there no repercussions from doing so, so give some repercussions.
Jerk in your party?
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10-10-2013, 09:16 PMHuxerJerk in your party?
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10-10-2013, 09:19 PMJPPILIP
That's why I love being a tank if ppl start trolling in a dungeon I can get things to murder them for me. :)
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10-10-2013, 09:19 PMRenytenz
When it's obvious you won't reason/don't want to, the only thing you can do is leave. It might be punishing for dps, but might as well be better than having bad emotions from run with people you don't want to play with. Try to find tanks/healer (they actually often play in pairs) on your server, become friends with them and enjoy instant queue, it is beneficial for them too, since pre made group is much more fan than having two random people.
Kick vote is promised sometimes in the future. -
10-10-2013, 09:29 PMAyaneKiwaraYeah, I have a couple healers I normally run with. My usual thing is to go to Revenants Toll and shout for a couple DD. Normally only takes once shout and we're golden. Typically much more pleasant and I've made friends with some of those people that I've picked up that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renytenz
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10-10-2013, 09:50 PMSolviteSekaiReally? People are taddling on other players to their FC leaders now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Huxer
Any respectable FC leader would ask you why you care this much about a game. -
10-10-2013, 09:54 PMcalamityz
Sorry to ruin your "moment" OP but this isn't the kindergarten playground where you cry to a school aid for being picked on. Solve your problems on your own and leave the drama out of it because you have no balls.
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10-10-2013, 10:14 PMHuxerYou're cute. First off, I am a tank so not really a big deal to me personally, this info was for you. Secondly, I am a FC leader of about 250 players and I would WANT to know. Try and troll me again and I will taunt you a second time :PQuote:
Originally Posted by calamityz
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10-10-2013, 10:17 PMZakalweI typically only try to contact FC leaders when I see someone in his/her FC out botting. Either the account has been hacked (which the real player will want to know asap) or his FC has a cheater (that needs booting). Unfortunately there's no PM option in the Loadstone, so it can be difficult if the FC lacks a website. But I could see doing it in extreme cases of DF misbehaviour as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolviteSekai
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10-10-2013, 10:22 PMKayo
Why? Not worth the trouble. Besides, FC might not even care or be another troll ... birds of a feather flock together. Players build FC groups to troll others all day ... in fact its one of the best reasons against the vote kick. Going through the trouble of trying to "get revenge" on these lowlives will only serve to get the reactions these miserable peices of steamy dookie live off of. Youll only be validating their pathetic existance.
Just turn off group chat, simple as that. Let the group know youre turning it off because X player is being an ahole, wish them good luck, and keep going. If someone drops its their DF cooldown, not yours. Simple. Nothing pisses off a kid throwing a temper tantrum more than complete and total dismissal of his rage. -
10-10-2013, 10:23 PMFatherKolgrim
is just a fad new form of sheep/followers they are not leaders and afraid to be themselves or ask for help so they act out and disguise it by calling it trolling. and just like a child throwing a fit ignore them
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10-10-2013, 10:33 PMHuxerGood points, I'd like to address one part in particular and leave the rest to stand because it is a good point. The thing I'd like to point out is that I would not be calling a GM over someone running their mouth. I'm talking about mad afk at the front guy or pulling all the mobs guy here. I can handle verbal abuse or whatever I don't care about that. It's when people intentionally stop the entire group from completing the run that I'm likely to "tattle"Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayo
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10-10-2013, 10:44 PMRazzle
While I don't side in any way with trolls or bad behavior... I doubt reporting to FC leaders will change anything... FC leaders are players just like others... They don't have any special privilege anyone can just start his own FC and be an FC leader...
And I also think that "FC reputation" is kind of overestimated... Personally I don't remember any FC's and I don't remember having an opinion on one...
It's like I saw someone shouting in Mor Dhona "don't party with X, he's dropping mid raid"- Do people actually listen to that? What if that person lies? I never took such shouts to heart and I don't think it hurts their virtual "reputation"... I think that many FC leaders will just laugh about you if you "report" a member trolling...
Just report to GM since bad behavior is against the rules... Anyway I see many threads on trolls and bad DF players but personally I hardly met any and I DF a lot..... Sure people are not always super nice, but I don't expect them to. But usually they are willing to teamwork and listen so far from my DF experience... Maybe I'm just lucky. This is an online game, it has community, not everyone are nice.
TL;DR: If their mom couldn't teach them manners, I doubt an "almighty" FC leader can... -
10-10-2013, 10:45 PMCylla
I don't even brother going to other servers to /tell people or their FC. If they are being that much of a jerk, I'll look them up and report them with a copy of the log and hope that GM will at least ban them for a few days for their behavior towards a player(s). Otherwise just like a few moments ago I had a nasty war and his brd friend talking down at the healers in Garuda HM so I stopped healing, watched a few of them die, I died and left while a few were still alive. Yeah I feel bad for the people who weren't in on the "let blame the WHM's" but sure as heck not going to stand around and take blame for something that wasn't mine or the other healer fault.
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10-10-2013, 11:01 PMYurikitty
As a FC leader, I would be thrilled if someone let me know that one of our members was behaving like this. Members who pug and act like that in parties will eventually act like that in FC. I think they should be reported as well. Its stupid behavior that is starting to effect normal players, and it needs to stop.
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10-10-2013, 11:06 PMdiulalasing
2.1 will allow you to vote kick jerks
but remember, you can't use duty finder to find new jerks if you are doing a trial
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10-10-2013, 11:09 PMHuxer
@razzle yep and to a certain degree I agree with everything you said. I think when we are talking about ak, and lets be honest I am mostly discussing endgame instances but I suppose it could happen any time along the journey. That these guys have put in countless hours t oget to where they need to be to farm the content. This probably also means that they have interest in going to coil. coil requires either a strong linkshell team or a fc team to run. I'm going to say that these guys are mostly hiding in raiding guilds and it would be an embarrassment to the guild if their actions came to light.
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10-10-2013, 11:23 PMVagdalExcept that progression oriented guilds judge players by their performance not by what they do outside raiding. You will be making an exhibition of youreself and providing them entertainment at best.Its Kindergarten at its best - Hey Leader X players said Y to Z and hes been really bad mannered - i can already see that facial expression. Grow up people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huxer
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10-10-2013, 11:29 PMHuxerI still don't understand why people think it's somehow childish to use social networking to try to unify and moderate and moral behavior of a society. News flash buddy, you are the one being childish by not speaking up like an adult. Your immediate reaction seems to be, well if this guy is like that then his GM is probably just going to laugh at me for saying something, sorry man but that is the childish thing. I'll say once again, I am a FC leader, some other FC leaders have spoken already, we DO want to hear if our guys are being dicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagdal
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10-11-2013, 01:50 AMArcheustheWiseNo, any REAL leader would take care of the issue, as it marrs the FC's image. Unless your going to tell me the whole fc is just scum then thats just sad. IT's not acceptable behavior here, this isnt wow. And its against ToS in all reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolviteSekai
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10-11-2013, 01:52 AMMazi
Didn't read any post just felt the need to mention that I had a completely different mindset of what this thread was about upon reading the title <.<
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10-11-2013, 02:02 AMDiceManSeems legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazi
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10-11-2013, 02:04 AMRyios
2.1 with vote to kick, they should fix trials so that if someone leaves or gets kicked the instance resets and puts you back in the circle while it finds someone else. Making all those dps wait for ques again etc is so horrible.
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10-11-2013, 02:19 AMYurikittyWhy would you only judge players by what they can do in a raid? If X is an accountant in rl, and he is a wiz with numbers but steals outside of work why would you not fire him? Same with the FC, if someone is being an ass, behaving like a child and griefing/afking/stealing you think I should just ignore that behavior and only judge them on what numbers they can pull in Coil? No thank you. I think its you that might need to take a more adult approach to this kind of thing. This game may be anonymous, but it doesn't give you license to act like a 10 year old, its still a social game in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagdal
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10-11-2013, 02:26 AMShae
When I see someone act like a complete douche in game I notice their guild tag, and it reflects on the guild. If I were a guild leader I would want to hear about it if I had a member repeatedly acting like a jerk with the name of our guild above his head. Any respectable FC leader would care.
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10-11-2013, 02:28 AMRisaeI feel like i'm getting stalked by 500 people already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huxer
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10-11-2013, 02:40 AMseekerofpowerActually, any RESPECTABLE FC and LS leader would take the complaint very seriously. Many FCs and LSs are very particular about the reputation of their respective groups and the behavior of their members.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolviteSekai
Although if some is being condescending, mean or cruel to other party members, I usually look them up on the Lodestone and then report them for either harassment or inappropriate behavior, whichever is more relevant.