Lag avoiding AOE tricks?

I literally leave the AOE a second before it hits and I'm always like half the size of the AOE from it.

Running to the sides from frontal cone AOE doesn't help. Running THROUGH the enemy does, but you have to keep on running so far that you can't melee attack him from the back.

This is seriously ridiculous, I literally have to use sprint sometimes to avoid AOE that is 360 degrees.

In every other MMO I played, saying sorry lag, was just a way to make an excuse for your screw up. Here it is just THAT freaking bad, I avoided only ONE AOE in an evening by using normal running speed and position, how it's actually supposed to be.

Spam an ability once you are clear, even if it is on cooldown this will force the server to check your position and eliminate those "lag deaths".

Distance doesn't matter at all, I only dodge to the very edge of the effect the only part of your character that counts is a tiny point in the center now.

Yeah I have been having that issues for the last week, although really extreme... wasn't even seeing the red circles or cast bars then getting hit out of nowhere... another fun one was being alive on my screen and dead on other peoples for over 10 seconds in one Garuda run, and Garuda being invisible most of the fight)...

I got in contact and my ISP has acknowledged the problem and is working on a traffic priority signature to give the game highest network priority, and have (so far) fixed a path issue shown in tracert which was sending the game traffic on a crazy doubling-back-on-itself route. Ping was down from 250-300ms to 100ms last night.

I'd suggest getting in contact with your ISP just in case they can help, and if they have support forums post there, as you might well find other people are having the same issue which might give them more of a nudge.

As a predominant tank, I have been noticing this as well. The dungeon I am up to I just can't dodge attacks, even if I am hugely out of the AOE of the attack.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

Spam an ability once you are clear, even if it is on cooldown this will force the server to check your position and eliminate those "lag deaths".

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This!
And setting the client to "No FPS Limit" also helped alot in my case.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

Spam an ability once you are clear, even if it is on cooldown this will force the server to check your position and eliminate those "lag deaths".

Distance doesn't matter at all, I only dodge to the very edge of the effect the only part of your character that counts is a tiny point in the center now.

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Will try that.

Welcome to FFXIV... I feel your pain... But it wasn't fixed since 1.0 so I'm not sure if it will fix anytime soon... Delays in AOE marks and animation is like a trademark stamp of this game by now LOL

Try upgrading your dial up.

1 other trick is running out of zone then running back in before the AoE goes off.

But PLEASE do not do the above if there are signs of stacking.

Move as soon as the area appears... or better yet anticipate the area and start moving prior to it showing.

The only time I get hit is if I try and squeak out the last few seconds of a cast.... I bet a large majority of the deaths from AE's are people trying to finish a cast before moving.

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Originally Posted by Seraphita

Try upgrading your dial up.

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I have a 30mbit connection and this issue was happening pretty bad last night.

Repost from the Titan Lagg thread.


While not related to internet lag, here's a tip for those who play on PS3.

Check your TV settings. Modern TVs will often have a "Game Mode" setting. With "Game Mode" off, the TV does post processing on images to make them look nicer but effectively adds lag! In some cases, depending on how cheap your TV is, it can be 100+ milliseconds! Turning "Game Mode" on should disable the post processing and eliminate the additional lag.


I also use the "cast/use a skill once I am clear of an AOE to update my position" trick and it seems to work.

Speed of connection does not correlate to lag.
Spamming an ability when you are out of the AoE is the best way to avoid it.

if you do a search on 'red circle aoe' you will find this thread that is almost 90 pages long now. it is about the problem you are talking about

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...red+circle+aoe

I hope I linked it correctly, if not just do the search you will find it. no reply at all . . . 89 pages of complaints. go figure.

1) Keep in mind that you'll be hit by the AoE if you're in the red area when the cast bar fills up. There's usually a small delay between the time that the cast bar fills up, and the time that the mob does its attack animation. You can be halfway across the screen when the mob does its attack animation, but it won't matter. The game calculates your location when the cast bar fills up.

In other words, get out of the AoE as soon as it pops up. You may think you've got time to finish that cast, do one more attack, or check one more thing before moving. You don't. Because the attack actually hits before it appears to hit. Get out of the AoE right now. Your DPS/heals/enmity is going to drop to zero when you die. The most important thing is to get out of the AoE area right away.

2) I had the same problem with getting out of AoEs, especially on Titan. As others have suggested, the best method for me has been to step slightly out of the AoE area, and then use an ability. That forces the server to update your location. It's also much less stressful.

3) You also might want to check your ping to the FFXIV servers. If your ping is high, then the problem is your internet connection, and not the game. There are methods to lower your ping -- including using a VPN service or a ping minimizer -- but you'll have to google those, since I'm not going to endorse any of them.

my way around the bug. once I am past the boundry of the red, I stop IMMEDIATELY, and then move again. this seems to update my position.

personally, I am truly disappointed in this behavior. I remember maybe about 10 or so years ago multi player games were hitting the internet and the first wave had all these kinds of position update problems like in this game. you would play with a friend and they would see you in a different place than you did on your screen.

then world of warcraft came out, and a multitude of games after that, and positioning with no lag seemed really solid. for me, it seemed that the days of this positional lag problem have been long gone. and then this game came out . . .

every single mmo I have played for the last 5+ years has been totally devoid of this problem but it somehow comes up in this game? how do you do that? and so many posts and no reply.

Very little you can do to fix it, its on SE to fix it, obviously the Aoe markers and affects are out of sync from the actual attacks by a lot.

For healers out there, who won't nessecarily be actively targetting the boss - set the boss as your focus target (shift + f I think by default), this'll place a mini version of the bosses bar on your screen, including his casting bar which will buy you precious additional time before the AoE bar is rendered, as well as alerting you to abilities with more subtle telegraphs (ie. AK's "impending catastrophe", Gogomera's "voice" abilities, the cyclop's "thousand onze swing" etc)

if you are tanking, it helps to be stacking on top of the mob rather than in front of him (think chimera). in that way, when the cone appears u just have to run forward only a tiny bit to be out od the circle.

when tanking bosses like aiatar, i simply strafe left and right. it pisses the mnk / drg off but i save the party by always avoiding the breathe attack.