Wish groups from our server would do this.

Groups on a couple other servers offering free titan hm runs instead of this 800k bull.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Sure-Why-Not

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ing_groups_so/

It's fine if you want to continue charging. Having that variable is part of an mmo. You're sacrificing your time for someone else's benefit. I'm not sure why you're so prickly. I'm not targeting any person or talking bad about people who do it. I can disagree with prices for services with out being hateful and I've done just that. I'm not saying it's anyone's responsibility to help other players through titan. I feel it's nice to see a since of community. I like helping other players. Sometimes i need help... just like everyone else. That isn't being babied, that's part of the game. If I wanted to be babied i would have paid for it already and instead of grinding the hell out of it with every single pug i come across. I don't have a "little group" that is currently capable of even competing with Titan HM. Don't get all butt-hurt.

My FC runs Titan HM 3-4 times a week (usually clearing on second try, with 2-3 undergeared people).

This "Free Service", however, is for guild members only.

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600k is a ridiculous price to ask for to run someone through a primal.
The economy isn't good enough to support prices like that, even if you do get good work in from it, it'll eventually come to a halt because there isn't enough GIL in game to go around when asking for a price that high.

When me and my FC are able to commit more time to the game and clear off titan we'll gladly run people through for free.

ITT: OP muses that it would be nice if there were some charitable people on their server instead of a bunch of people who only concern themselves with doing things that benefit themselves. Promptly, ArtikChill swoops in and acts like an 8 year old.

We are the top...just because you ran out of insults and had to go to google.com homepage on how to defend yourself against the internet doesn't mean that your opinion is gonna change the fact...were the top on the server right now.

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Originally Posted by Raelynsilverwind

We are the top...just because you ran out of insults and had to go to google.com homepage on how to defend yourself against the internet doesn't mean that your opinion is gonna change the fact...were the top on the server right now.

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You know, it's funny, because I've talked to some of your members, and a LOT of them mentioned ya'll using exploits/bugs earlier on to
1) Complete Titan
2) Complete Turn 4

It's cool, because I guess we have something in common then: we both know how to google!

But seriously, you guys should tone in down a notch and learn to read - Top on progression, does not mean top on server. No one gives a hoot if you're the best, if you're a cheating jerk. :/

To make a few things clear the numbers for our group in ATR hold no value other then separating groups for convenience, I am in Alpha group in ATR so I have not played with Isamu since he is in Delta but I can assure you he is far from being a carried player, delta was the 2nd group to clear turn 4 on the server after my team grabbed first, literally it was a in FC race for the guild only separated by 10 minutes of each other. As for the flaming I can say we do not condone it but at the same time we do not tether our members by leashes, ATR has a fairly diverse line up and to each to there own we can't possible control our members even if it ends up tarnishing our FC.

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Originally Posted by Trasias

You know, it's funny, because I've talked to some of your members, and a LOT of them mentioned ya'll using exploits/bugs earlier on to
1) Complete Titan
2) Complete Turn 4

It's cool, because I guess we have something in common then: we both know how to google!

But seriously, you guys should tone in down a notch and learn to read - Top on progression, does not mean top on server. No one gives a hoot if you're the best, if you're a cheating jerk. :/

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I don't know who you talk to about what ever glitches or bugs but I can assure you that our kills of Titan and Turn 4 where clean and we worked hard to achieve them. To be perfectly honest my group didn't even know Titan could be exploited after our first kill till the servers went down.

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To make a few things clear the numbers for our group in ATR hold no value other then separating groups for convenience, I am in Alpha group in ATR so I have not played with Isamu since he is in Delta but I can assure you he is far from being a carried player, delta was the 2nd group to clear turn 4 on the server after my team grabbed first, literally it was a in FC race for the guild only separated by 10 minutes of each other. As for the flaming I can say we do not condone it but at the same time we do not tether our members by leashes, ATR has a fairly diverse line up and to each to there own we can't possible control our members even if it ends up tarnishing our FC.

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Best ATR response I've seen this entire thread. I apologize for any of my remarks, although ill-tempered, towards your FC. I have respect for the guild, but not for some of it's "dogs" without their leashes.

I am satisifed to see atleast one member have integrity.

Arguments on the internet never solve anything its just an endless loop that just cause more hate to one another there really is no need for such senseless things but again to each they're own but all of you need to calm down and just discontinue this.

ok a couple of things need to be worked out here.

1 Trasias I need the names of these players in our FC that says we exploit.
2. we have never exploited kills in this game...there is no point its too easy.
3. I like trolling just as much as the next guy, but there comes a point and time where post like these are blatantly aimed at one group. Single us out that's fine but just remember we put alot of time into our characters and our raids, and gear doesn't signify what a player has accomplished.
4 I can ASSURE you that anyone in any of our raid groups has not been "carried" thru content.
5 our raid designations have NOTHING to do with level of skill or progressed status. we have raid group a, b, c, and d Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta. If anything Delta USED to be CC's main raid group , they switched FCs we already had established bravo and charlie, thus why they are delta. They are actually the closest to what we would consider "competition" on this server.

6 I dont really care if 1-100 ppl dont like paying for titan runs..dont pay for them thats fine..but we provide a service for those that are frustrated and have actually farmed up the money in one way or another. Personally I dont like wasting my time on titan. I enjoy the spirit of competition which is why i fail to see why i should help "progress" others. ATR was founded from a pug group on this server that wanted to clear content so as pugs we did just that now we are an FC. I dont see why others cant do the same.

I am more then willing to discuss this further but this should put an end to this thread.

Thank-you for your thoughts on mercenary services. We appreciate your opinions on the matter and this is something that devoted players hold passionate opinions over. We are going to go ahead close this thread as both sides have voiced their opinion and have been played out. We encourage you to continue this discussion in one of the other threads revolving around this topic. We thank-you for your devotion to the game.

Good luck and have fun!