Do buffs affect Limit Break damage?

I've tried asking a few different players, but nobody seems to have a clear cut answer on this. I've always made it a habit to use buffs before executing the limit break, thinking it would give me a higher damage output as opposed to just using it on its own. Some have told me that since limit breaks depend on potency, it makes sense that buffs would have an effect on that, but... Others have stated that buffs don't contribute to the damage at all. So, which is it?

EDIT: D'oh. Reached my daily limit.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Somi

Another question: does gear have an influence at all then? I sure hope so.

I also heard Dragoons saying they buff before using it...

---

I'm a Dragoon and buff before I use it, lol. That's why I've felt compelled to ask. I'm wondering if waiting for Life Surge, Blood for Blood, and/or Internal Release to fill before using my LB is even worth it, heh.

Limit break damage is a flat potency rate and cannot be influenced by anything beyond the number of bars filled.

In short, buffs do nothing.

not necessarily entirely true... LB's can be swiftcasted.

Wouldn't be surprised if there were other buffs that have an effect.

So let's say you activate Bloodthirst and the use Limit Break as Dragoon. Would it heal you corectly acording to the damage you do with the Limit Break?

Another question: does gear have an influence at all then? I sure hope so.

I also heard Dragoons saying they buff before using it...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Somi

Another question: does gear have an influence at all then? I sure hope so.

---

It does. Friend used Meteor on Ifrit's nails in high gear and relic+1, only one nail, the one that wasn't damaged before Meteor hit, was left standing, with around 1% of HP left.

gear certainly effects them and buff skills do seem to as well

with full darklight and my relic book i can one shot ifrit nails and garuda minions with limit break while when i was learning the fights it did like 60-70% of their hp

and swiftcast definitely works with them so don't know why other skills wouldn't

I'd say wep damage has the highest effect; you multiply wep damage with skill potency, and str/det modifiers. Difference between Ifrit Spear, and +1 Relic, is like 3k damage.
And i'm quite sure buffs don't work.

yes,equipment does matter
but not sure with the damage buffs

Foe's Requiem also affects it.

I actually saw dds talking about making sure to use Blood for Blood before the LB... at least most seem to believe in it

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SandWolf96

So let's say you activate Bloodthirst and the use Limit Break as Dragoon. Would it heal you corectly acording to the damage you do with the Limit Break?

---

If by bloodthirst you mean life surge then it doesn't heal you and doesn't cause a critical hit, the buff remains on you until your next ability after the limit break.

blood for blood, don't affect it.
as drg the buff is +30% it will be insane as increase of damage on it. well equiped a lb3 melee is around 13-15k.

My own testing leads me to believe, as some others have said, that weapon damage affects the amount of damage Limit Break does the most.

However, damage increasing buffs (at least those used by Dragoon--that I know of) do not affect the amount of damage you dish out with limit break. Life surge doesn't heal you. LB does not crit, either. It's flat damage.

Also, I seem to do up to about 12-13k damage on LB2 with a Gae Bolg +1. I have not bothered to check LB3 (since probably the only fight you ever use it is on Garuda--maybe). I'm sure it would probably about double the damage output, if I did LB3.

Hope this helps. ^^

Something is definitely up with buffs on LB. I do A LOT of Garuda HM's. I love the fight, what can I say? Anyways, as a dragoon I am typically the LB guy on adds. Sometimes my LB2 completely obliterates an add from full to next-to-nothing, sometimes it does only about half. Only thing I can think of is my buffs I pop just before.

It does affect them so go get yourself hi potions of whatever to boost that dmg, thats what they are for.

Seeing all of these replies... Now you understand my predicament, lol. It's still a "he said, she said" situation.

Wait. Why don't we just get SE to answer this directly? I wonder why I didn't think of that sooner.

Damn it, now I have to test it. I always used Lifesurge on my LNC back in phase 3 right before a Limit Break but I can't remember if it does crit the LB and absorb some of the damage as HP or not, definitely going to put some time into this, my interest is piqued.

I remember doing about 7800-8000 damage on the nails in the Ifrit fight with Garuda staff + various AK/DL gear. I'll run an Ifrit tonight and see how much it varies now that I have my Relic+1.

Edited the thread title in hopes a dev will see it and reply themselves so we can know once and for all.

EDIT: Boooooooo... It only changed the title for the first post, lol. Well, someone try and notify a dev to get in here and answer this question, please. Thanks ;w;

Still waiting on a more concrete answer for this. Anybody have some test results they can provide? We know weapons have an effect on the damage, as they should, but what about buffs and which ones?

ok, so i ran a test today
after adding buffs (heavy thrust + blood for blood of DRG), i saw no significant difference on the damage output
i usually use heavy thrust before unleash my LB, but if buffs do affect LB, it should give way more damage after i added blood for blood as it gives 20% damage increase
i think that the damage range of LB is kinda huge
you can deal, for example, 9k to 11k damage from LB level 2

I can confirm that Raging Strike does appear to increase damage on a black mage and summoner. Ever since I started using it in the beta my attack on LB seems to go up by 1k-1.5k although it can be random at times since the LB is odd with its dmg.

As far as I know its based on your group's item level. I'm not 100% sure if its based on the highest level person, or an average, my guess would be an average. Its a group ability therefore based on what the group can contribute to it. The weapon of the person using it has 0 effect to it, and neither do buffs. You can swiftcast it, but that is the only buff that I know of that affects it, and it doesn't affect the damage, just the cast time.

Raging strikes effect blm LB.

FatEraser just posted some testing on reddit. Conclusion: group's average weapon level or damage is the only factor on LB damage. Buffs don't matter, gear doesn't matter. There is some variance to the damage LB does, as with most other abilities.
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...damage_tested/

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eclipsed

LB's can be swiftcasted.

---

Nope, they can't be swiftcasted.

From my understanding through testing and such. It's based off the group's average ilvl as far as gear (though admittedly weapon might have more impact), and buffs don't seem to have any noticeable effect.

Only buffers which have been proven to influence LB: Raging Strikes & Life Surge. So far nothing else works.

buffs & gear or position dont effect LB whatsoever (not sure about weapon). pretty sure its based off ur characters base stats. could be wrong tho.

life surge definitely doesn't affect it.

I just checked over the statistics on that Reddit post and it seems that buffs do not have an effect on the damage at all, yet some people are still insisting that they do (see Life Surge above). Interesting. Well, from now on, I think I'll just hold off on executing buffs before using the LB since it just seems like a waste, honestly. By the time I finish the animation, my buff will have come close to wearing off, especially if it's Final Heaven, heh.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eclipsed

not necessarily entirely true... LB's can be swiftcasted.

Wouldn't be surprised if there were other buffs that have an effect.

---

Can anyone else confirm this? Never seen it done.