Why are there no quests from 46 to 49 ???

This is the first time since launch that I have found myself with literally no alternative but to FATE grind. Hunting log only has one entry left, current on class/job quests, no dungeon at 46, no storyline quest, no side quests - zero.

It seems like very bad design.

(Incidentally, why is the lead-in quest for Aurum Vale given at 44? Why make the level requirement 47 when you know there is no content available at 46?)

There are a few non-story quests in vesper bay at 47-48 level but not enough to level will. Sadly you are going to have to find other means of leveling up like leve's or fates.

at 49 mind you, you are hit with a 8 man trial fight which offers no real reward for repeating it.

Then you missed some. I just dinged 50 and have quests I left untouched to save for another job. They're out here. Check Waking Sands, Northern Thanalan, Mor Dhona. Revisit old areas you thought you were done with.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

Then you missed some. I just dinged 50 and have quests I left untouched to save for another job. They're out here. Check Waking Sands, Northern Thanalan, Mor Dhona. Revisit old areas you thought you were done with.

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There is one quest giver at Vesper Bay and the icon is red at 46. There are absolutely no additional quests in Mor Dhona (there were very few in total). I will check N Than but my understanding is that those quests will not open up until you get the next story quest at 49.

I skipped many sidequests while leveling up. This patch is totally different.

You might want to check out this page: http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Th...39;s_Ultimatum

On the right side, you see which quest are unlocked at 46 which can give you 1 or 2 levels easy (it's a lot of go talk to this guy, kill X number of mobs, come back to the guy, rinse and repeat).

Please stop to write wrong things here...

i have done all sidequests and all quests the game has...

you have to fate-grind or to dungeon-grind...

since lvl 40 the quests NEVER let one alone finish a level, bad,bad design...

and my final result: ALSO FF14 was released before FINISHING THE GAME.

there are some quests at each level up to 50 but they are never enough to complete the level so you need to mix quests + dungeon or fates

Why is it a bad design?

The game have a lot of content for all levels and classes/jobs, so the logical thing is to 'encourage' you to try it all, and thats the reason why is not that easy to get to level 50 just by doing the quests alone (but I bet you can if you do ALL the quests in the game, tho).

So go and try the FATEs, levequests, hunting log and everything else, it's fun!

Grinding fates and dungeons from 47-50 is not as bad as you think, especially the main quests are back on after lvl 49, also you can do some of your grand company quests while you at it, you might be right about the story line, but there is still a lot the things you can do while leveling up your character

Again, i describe my leveling from Lvl 40-48:

- I did every dungeon ONCE, every sidequest, every mainquest,
ONE fate per level, Bestiarium completed for Thauma and Grand Company,
all maps explored and ...STILL:

the exp for next Level NEVER were full, always fate-grinding.

guess u didnt leave the exploring closer to end since the exploring exp does scale per lvl for completing the exploring achieves for each zone and anyway theres enough to do to lvl u. if u want to hit 50 fast for example u can easily do a lvl per hr or 2 in northern thanalan just from fates for example dark devices first part u can easily get 100k-150 k+ experience meaning it will end up being 200k+ depending on how many adds u can tag since they do spawn pretty fast.

also another thing about the vesper bay quest givers they spawn in waking sand but around either 47-48 they appear but u wont see them on map til u actually hit that lvl wont even show a ! til then so u need to make sure to go back to do those ones as well.

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Originally Posted by Silverpr

Again, i describe my leveling from Lvl 40-48:

- I did every dungeon ONCE, every sidequest, every mainquest,
ONE fate per level, Bestiarium completed for Thauma and Grand Company,
all maps explored and ...STILL:

the exp for next Level NEVER were full, always fate-grinding.

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Very strange. I did the exact same thing and managed to get to 48.5 before having to grind fates then more quests unlocked at 49!

Are you SURE you haven't missed some? Apart from doing dungeons more than once (not grinding just running 2-3 times for gear on certain ones.) you've missed something that's for sure.

nope, didnt miss something

the only explanation is that i ONLY quested from lvl 1 to 35, so it sums up, i think,

but nevertheless there are less too quests for a mmo with quests, seems for me unfinished, the game

at the very least we aren't grinding mobs one at a time anymore for minimal xp when you could find a party. >.>

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Originally Posted by Silverpr

Again, i describe my leveling from Lvl 40-48:

- I did every dungeon ONCE, every sidequest, every mainquest,
ONE fate per level, Bestiarium completed for Thauma and Grand Company,
all maps explored and ...STILL:

the exp for next Level NEVER were full, always fate-grinding.

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With ACN I didn't do all sidequests, but repeated dungeons enough times to get a full set of the level-appropriate green gear (eg Brayflox for Battlemage and Dzemael for Coliseum). I dropped into level-appropriate FATEs when I walked past them. Helped FC members on earlier content like story Primals as needed. Haven't been out of rested XP since before launch. Always use food, even if it's just +3%XP food and nothing else. All hunting logs (GC & ACN). Story quests & class quests. FC Battle XP buff was on intermittently.

I had to spend a few hours doing FATEs in Coerthas, Mor Dhona and Northern Thanalan at 47+, but I didn't really consider that 'grind' - there were enough different FATEs for it to not be repetitive.

Looking forward to levelling up my other classes!

The Citadel south of Stone Vigil in Coerthas has lot of quests for 47+ i'd suggest around there.

I have done about 80% of the side quests available to me as I made my way to level 50, I was on my first level 46 story quest as I dinged level 50. I had maybe 10 to 15 FATEs done total from levels 1 to 50 on my character. Only thing I did to gain some extra experience was run the manor instance about 10 times and rest of the instances about twice each for some gear along the way. Never did any Leve quests or any other extra means of experience gain on my main class.

So how is it that people are getting stuck at around 40 to 45 mark, while others are able to ding 50 with a plethora of quests left over?

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Only thing I did to gain some extra experience was run the manor instance about 10 times and rest of the instances about twice each for some gear along the way.

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Haukke Manor gives a s**t tone of experience. You running it 10 times was overkill, yes. But a large part as to why you were able to cruise to 50 with quests to spare.

Once you hit 47, there are 4 or 5 separate quest lines that start out of the Waking Sands (inside, not vesper bay). They are hard to notice because the quest line drops at 46 and then picks back up at 49 so it makes sense if you left Waking Sands at 46, you would not of seen them. If you are now 47+, return and there should be some more quests for you to do. That said, you can still only do them once so you'll have to go back to grinding if you want to level a 2nd class.

Also, if you have a well coordinated group, you can actually get some pretty good exp from doing an 8 man grind fest on regular mobs that are 4-6 levels higher than you. This works especially well if you have rested bonus and its your 2nd class/job (double exp ftw!)

had this issue before too = /

I'm also having this issue. Since level 40 I've not been able to find enough quests to level me up. Hunting log nearly complete, been doing leve's, guildheists, instances when I can and fates. It sucks scrounging for XP. I spent last night going around exploring looking for new quests areas picked up a few new ones but it's never enough to get me my next level.

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Originally Posted by Elisaveta

I'm also having this issue. Since level 40 I've not been able to find enough quests to level me up. Hunting log nearly complete, been doing leve's, guildheists, instances when I can and fates. It sucks scrounging for XP. I spent last night going around exploring looking for new quests areas picked up a few new ones but it's never enough to get me my next level.

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Well there is always FATE's and level's which help not to mention that dungeons also give very good xp

I still have level 49 quests sitting untouched since I hit 50 and no longer needed them. They are out there.

Here's a crazy idea: They should make more quests and support their job system better. Presently, they don't even have a core leveling path tightened up and you clearly have time to sit around and wait for the mail if, in the current leveling environment, you've got time to fate grind other classes beyond the first.

That's boring and negligent design. It is, in fact, lack of design altogether; they had 30 levels worth of content and stretched it out for 50 levels, or so it feels like to actually play it. Maybe they'll go find their level designer and get him to finish what he started yet!

Or maybe they'll go 'lol' and leave it to the fate zergs to provide the bulk majority of all leveling experiences once you've mostly gotten through a SINGLE CLASS.

(Not quite) one down, seven to go...of the battle classes alone.

Not quite one class' worth of content and seven classes worth of mostly fate grinding with waste-your-time leves and gamble-your-time duty finder dungeons breaking up the fate-grind monotony?

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Yeah, that has a bright future with things like Elder Scrolls Online and Wildstar coming down the pipe. I'm almost sorry to say it, because I'm earnestly sorry that its true, but ARR here, in its current state, already doesn't hold up well against most of its own existing competition. Loads of potential, to be sure, but will SE realize that potential? It won't be enough for them to not do anything wrong; they'll have to do a lot of things very right.

It doesn't look good so far, from where I see it. Its got a chance, but at this point, that chance hinges on whether or not Yoshi and his teams don't get lazy, greedy or stupid now. ~1.5 million people or so, as best as I can find numbers of repute for, bought into ARR and really blew Yoshi and SE away with the avalanche of interest. That's a damn good start.

Not more. SWTOR had a damn good start too, and it was F2P inside a year after nosediving so hard it almost joined FFXIV 1.0's faceprint on the floor of the internet with its own.

MMO's are like very big ships. Once they start in a direction, they're not going to be going in new directions quickly, they don't 'turn on a dime' and they take a hell of a lot to get moving properly. When you can clearly see their direction at launch, its not really speculation as to where they're generally going to be going for a long while. Lessons might be learned quickly, but implementation of even the least of them will take months, if not longer. I may know something of this.

So, seeing some of the design decisions Yoshi and his folks have made here disappoints me, personally. More importantly for them, it won't work as it is longterm. I hope; I sincerely, honestly hope that they know this, recognize this and have a solid plan for where they're going to address this.

I think they do. I see, or at least I think I see, significant evidence that this is just the foundation. Its a good foundation; they could do wonderful things from here.

Will they? Implementation is fact. What they've implemented so far doesn't give me a lot of hope. The fact that there's cause for people to be legitimately posting threads like this one tells me that something's wrong with the core game's experience, and that's ...that's, frankly, godawful. That's like setting out to make a chocolate cake and forgetting, somehow, to put the chocolate in it. How do you fail that hard? Bad estimation somewhere? Did YoshiP and his teams think that it'd be simply brill to reel back quests and make people fate/dungeon grind to get to cap? If so, they're stupid. I do not think they're stupid, so that's probably not the case.

More likely, and especially since its such a late-phase issue in the core leveling experience, it was crude oversight; someone probably thought this was enough. Someone probably thought 'Eh, its good enough for now'. This is, at least, my hope, because if they intend for people to do most of their leveling by fate and dungeon grinding (7 of 8 battle classes will rely pretty much exclusively on those grinds, or you won't be leveling them at all), then they really are dumber than a bag full of hammers and we'd all be well advised to back away...moderately swiftly, lest we get caught in the blast radius of catastrophic failure to come.

It won't be easy for them to make fun things for people to do to level all the classes they make available. Looking at it honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they get lazy and decide that you're not really 'supposed' to be able to level all the classes, call it 'extraordinary' and let people think they're hardcore for grinding 350 levels worth of dungeons and fates like mental midgets with the IQ's of fenceposts.

They've got a great foundation though, to be sure. Better foundations have been squandered by game developers, however. To me, this all looks very dicey right now.

Good start. It could go directly to hell from here very easily. Will it? Honestly, probably not. But will it realize any of its potential or wallow in a disappointing mediocrity wherein everything could've been cool but wasn't?

Still waiting for 2.1 to tell me that, personally. Once I can see for myself what their implementation looks like with 2.1, I'll know everything I'll need to know as to whether or not this game's got any future being installed on my computer or not.

I sadly have to agree with you Chrysania, this is a repeat of history in many ways for this game. It has potential as you've stated quite a few times. :P

But as it stands the game is EXTREMELY lacking, the world is incredibly tiny even in comparison to many free to play MMO worlds. A third of the content is eliminated by the first battle class progression and the other 2/3's end up being a spammed weekly rotation of a singular dungeon and a map quest adventure. You could count crafting if you want i found it to be enjoyable but crafting is well worthless in almost every case. None of the gear or food is even remotely essential or necessary for any of the games activities. The classes and jobs severely lack diversity in their designs and fairly weightless combat styles often just following your rotation since nothing really forces your patterns to differ.

The game is beautiful and it has a lot of potential, I for one am a huge fan but it definitely needs work.

I'm in the same boat. My PLD is 47 and I have to grind out the next two levels before I can pick back up on the main story again. I do not like FATE grinding because teamwork is nonexistent due to the fact that healers and tanks are too busy maxing dps to do their jobs... Not their fault, but clearly FATEs need to take into account threat per second, healing per second, AND damage so we can all do this stuff efficiently. But I digress -- I hate FATE grinding anyway; too bad dungeons take so long to complete for their meager experience. <.<

There is a quest suggestions option. Turn it on and visit different zones. I'm late 46 and I never did any FATE grinding or revisit a dungeon (I've even missed some). Also, rested XP. I really don't see how some people run out of quests their first time around.

Yep, it's FATE grinding up in Ceruleum Processing. It's not as fun as it seems.

But it could be worse - good luck trying to PUG a group for the awesome, non-duty finder Dhorme Chimera nonsense for your relic quest.

And there are still no casual raids or PvP until 2.1, so you may not really want to reach 50 too quickly.

Running FATEs and doing dungeons for a few levels isn't all that horrible. I got to 46 without really FATE-ing much, and I've gotten from there to mid-48 in a couple of days. Dungeon running is solid because it continues to hone your skills, and FATE-ing in North Than isn't bad at all considering the xp you get and the fact that there's fairly long breaks where you can just b.s. with your FC mates a bit. Of course, being in a solid FC helps a lot, too.