I am just curious what the deal is with the servers. I am happy that it doesn't take long to get into the game anymore and their is a que time..that takes maybe 30 seconds to enter, but doing dungeons is just blowing my mind currently with the poor design.
My FC joins AK with a full group but we have to wait 30+ minutes for an instance to open up? I've played nearly every major MMO over the last 15 years and I have NEVER seen a game were you have to wait to enter a dungeon due to not enough instances available. I can understand if you are farming the zone and it only takes 20 minutes to complete and a lockout timer is required to ensure speed runs don't unbalance game design but having 200 full groups ready to play and only 100 instance spots available for them to do it in?
Can someone explain to me if they plan to fix this...or how in the world some MORON in the a major gaming company sold this stupid idea to the lead game designer.
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10-08-2013, 12:27 PMVicusWhat is the news with server updates....Full group and still 30+ min to enter..fail
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10-08-2013, 12:51 PMCUTS3RQuote:
Originally Posted by Vicus
This will happen every weeks after the ToM reset.
As long as AK is the only good way to farm them, people will farm AK to death the next hours following the reset until their capped again causing this, no matter how many instances are available.
You just tried at the wrong time, wait for the next day or keep trying and deal with 30min for a spot. -
10-08-2013, 12:56 PMblowfinI don't think you understood his point, why are there not more instances available? We shouldn't be waiting this long with a ready made party, period.Quote:
Originally Posted by CUTS3R
The concept of wrong time is just an excuse. For a lot of people the weeknights are like this every night, and there isn't much other time available to play. There is no right time in some people's playing schedules.
Part of the problem is that AK is so popular and there are no alternatives, the other part is that the infrastructure simply doesn't handle enough instances. It should be improved at the very least, until such time as there is more content to spread people over. -
10-08-2013, 01:03 PMNangaWrong time as in, wrong day. Monday = weekly reset = everyone spamming AK runs to get their 300 myth tomes again. By Wednesday or Thursday, it's dead again.Quote:
Originally Posted by blowfin
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10-08-2013, 01:04 PMWHS
Want to know something worse? The zone is not refreshing the instances. If you pick duty finder already in progress you get an instance but nobody in it and the winning music is playing in background. I went in one with 30 seconds left, 2nd one was 9 minutes. If they really want to open up more instances shouldn't they clean house and close those empty instances that are finished? I bet there are 100s of those laying around and that's taking up more spots then you probably think. It is a real problem and needs to be fixed as well. Try it and you will see what I am talking about. Pick instance already in progress sometime later this week when the high volume settles down. Be on a dps job and see you get in an empty dungeon or maybe someone else but not the one you expected. It will be already finished and mobs be alive in it. That's what I am seeing.
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10-08-2013, 01:27 PMVicusHmm
Nanga,
Not playing on a Monday is not a legitimate way to run a business. If your busiest day of the week for your business was Monday, would you schedule your entire staff off except one person? The server infrastructure is broken and needs to be fixed. Don't make excuses for them...I know why it is like it is...I also know its BROKEN and needs to be fixed.
Whats even WORSE is after waiting 20+ minutes for it to pop up...if someone removes themselves or doesn't click within the 30 second window...you get REQUED back into the system for another 20+ minutes. But yeah..you keep making excuses for them or complain like I am...because maybe there is a slight chance they realize this should be the first thing they fix in this game. -
10-08-2013, 01:57 PMispanoSo they should have a ton of servers for the huge hit on Monday, that all go unused, wasting money, on other days?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicus
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10-08-2013, 02:00 PMTheRealist
Servers can be rented or bought and resold, happens in business all the time.
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10-08-2013, 02:07 PMUBERHAXED
Maybe you don't quite understand the magnitude of people playing AK. Let's say since every server is always at max capacity (there's always a log in queue), that 2000 people (HUGE understatement, it's far more) are trying to do AK on Mondays. Then since there are more than 50 servers, then that is more than 100,000 people trying to do AK. Since each party is 4 people, that's 25, 000 instances. Now keep in mind that the world server is unstable over 8000 people. Then do you really expect the server for a single instance to service 100,000 people simultaneously? And there's more than this instance being run.
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10-08-2013, 02:12 PMblowfinYou have misunderstood too. I'm well aware of when the tome reset is and how it impacts the number of people wanting AK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanga
Again, WRONG TIME OR DAY is just an excuse. The minimum level of server capacity to provide an adequate experience for the majority of players (i.e. during JP prime time) isn't being met.
There is no good period for me, at least not when I can play during the week. It's always horribly slow to get an instance. -
10-08-2013, 02:13 PMAustin
Fix is coming mid October ... Don't you all read dec updates?
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10-08-2013, 02:20 PMAridElfIt's not broken, it's hundreds / thousands of people spamming AK to cap their Myth tomes on the first day after the cap reset. Calm yourself and stop throwing the word 'broken' around like it's going out of fashion, just do it another day or wait out the queue time, get over yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicus
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10-08-2013, 02:20 PMblowfinI think you'll find that each dungeon has it's own instance server and queue which is shared between 4 servers. Your numbers are way too high. Each instance server should only have to deal with 32000 players at a maximum, and there's no way that limit would be reached.Quote:
Originally Posted by UBERHAXED
In reality they should be able to pull some capacity off the other dungeons (anything below WP really) and assign the capacity to the high demand instances. Doesn't seem like they have the mechanism in place to do this though. -
10-08-2013, 02:22 PMblowfinDid you even bother to read the whole 10 posts in this thread? If you had you'd see that this is a problem all week for some servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by AridElf
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10-08-2013, 02:23 PMLordSideKicks
To those who are trying to talk sense to op. Let's ignore this post.
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10-08-2013, 02:25 PMKraftstyleYou are confusing "exuse" and "explanation". Yeah, you are a client, you have paid some money, but it doesn't mean all things will go well now (in a real world at least). So. Topic started asked "how will they fix this". The answer has been given - via the additional dungeons the devs are gonna implement.Quote:
Originally Posted by blowfin
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10-08-2013, 02:33 PMblowfin"Not good enough" is my response. I'll just leave it at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraftstyle
Another 6-8 weeks of horrible wait times will drive people away from the game. It's in SE's best interests to fix it ASAP without relying on the crutch of more dungeons. -
10-08-2013, 02:53 PMsharazisspecial
The akeep queue is high all week during na prime time.
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10-08-2013, 02:55 PMAridElfYes I can read, and I did, thank you for assuming I have basic skills. Maybe it's just more common on more popular servers, as common sense would suggest. There's been no issues in the DF pool that my server belongs to, and Behemoth can get pretty crowded at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by blowfin
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10-08-2013, 03:16 PMMiburo
They can do a quick patch to change mob placement and behavior to stop speed runs.
They could easily do a quick patch that adds myth tomes to WP, up the tomes dropped by primals, etc. to give people more options for obtaining them if they don't have the capacity to handle everyone having to do the one dungeon that drops them. They're capped at 300 a week anyway, so what's it matter? 35 from WP, 10 (15?) from ifrit, 20 from garuda, 30 from titan. Boom, super easy fix. -
10-08-2013, 03:31 PMEvilchakra
Patch 2.1, everything is patch 2.1 didnt you hear?
Patch 2.1
Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1
Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1
Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1Patch 2.1
That is the response to ALL issues out there. Didnt you know? GOD
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10-08-2013, 03:41 PMVaen
The instance wait issue is annoying and unusual but if you have to go on the forums and personally insult the devs for a complex tech issue that they've said they're working on, then that doesn't cast you in a very flattering light at all.
Please reconsider calling the hard-working game designers "MORONS" for your own sake as much as theirs. No matter how frustrated you might feel in the moment. -
10-08-2013, 11:38 PMQooo
http://i44.tinypic.com/mhbzg9.jpg
Nice, lucky only subscribe for 30 days entry. lol -
10-09-2013, 02:02 AMAridElfWhat do you expect rolling as dps in primetime at the myth reset? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Qooo
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10-09-2013, 02:17 AMArlenThis has happened to me and I know how it happens. After completing the instance a party member leaves. The leader of the party gets the pop up for replenishing. I've received it myself. I always make sure to press no. I bet there are individuals that hit yes just to grief...or possibly by button smashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
I've been summoned twice to AK that was over. -
10-09-2013, 02:58 AMHeiZei
Complaint about a nonissue I'm afraid.
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10-09-2013, 02:59 AMGarnatian
Cut costs, same way they cut costs by only having North American servers.
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10-09-2013, 03:09 AMLordSideKicks
It got to be monday and tuesday.....
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10-09-2013, 03:13 AMLaiyenu
HM Garuda is faster. 7 tomes per 4-5 minutes. PLus you get some Philo too.
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10-09-2013, 04:41 AMRyios
SE can't realistically make one instance server serve 25,000+ simultaneous instances. That's not feasible with their current design. The only way this will ever go away is if there is more than one easy dungeon to get myth from. 2.1/2.2 should lessen this considerably, they are adding more dungeons, hard mode dungeons, and ultra primals.
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10-09-2013, 06:03 AMSebyos
They literally ''upgraded instance server capacity'' like what 3 times ? And yet, we are still stuck in 1995 with instance queues...
Of course, people are right, the end game gearing process is a joke right now with just AK to get ToMs.