Is selling Potash/Coke RMT?

I've been seeing people post stuff on reddit about getting banned after dealing with Potash sales and they sell for a decent chunk of gil on the market (72-80k) so I was wondering about this. I don't want to use my philostones to get gil instead of gear only to be banned... I want to have enough stocked up for housing though.

Do you know what RMT stands for?

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You don't get banned for selling in game items for in game currency. You get banned for RMT/botting. You shouldn't believe every sob story on the web.

If they're not selling it for real world money, it's not RMT. A possible cause of the problem was that the items were bought using RMT gil.

I think this was in that giant ban wave that got people for selling items to people who bought gil.

I don't see why >.> I used to sell aketons and such with conquest points all the time in FFXI!

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

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You don't get banned for selling in game items for in game currency.

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You can get Temp Banned and have your gil confiscated IF your items were bought with RMT purchased gil.

The only way to avoid this is to charge reasonable prices for your items. If you are charging top dollar, chances are only someone who purchased gil can afford your items.

Undercutting the markets is a good thing ;>) Greed is not good.

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Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru

Do you know what RMT stands for?

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You don't get banned for selling in game items for in game currency. You get banned for RMT/botting. You shouldn't believe every sob story on the web.

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hey maybe you should acually know a thing or two for making such an ignorant post

players HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR SELLING ITEMS on the market board for gil - 100% ingame system

why?

BECAUSE GOLD SELLERS/FARMERS ARE PURCHASING THE ITEMS

makes no sense to ban the players for this?

oh well!

WELCOME TO SQUAREO ENIXO DESU ELDERLY PANCAKE CRYSTAL BRAIN

if they're going to confiscate your gil if someone buys your item do they return the item? if not they're taking the piss a bit there

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Originally Posted by Davorok

You can get Temp Banned and have your gil confiscated IF your items were bought with RMT purchased gil.

The only way to avoid this is to charge reasonable prices for your items. If you are charging top dollar, chances are only someone who purchased gil can afford your items.

Undercutting the markets is a good thing ;>) Greed is not good.

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What stops the gil buyer from buying the cheaper item? You are the one who is greedy for wanting hardworking crafters who make ilvl70 items for cheap prices.

Ok Here is the breakdown of how this possibly happened.

RMT has been marked by STF


RMT Source
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RMT Mule
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Gil Buyer A
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Gil begins to circulate to normal players

When the STF Decides to remove the RMT gil from the system everyone who has been caught in the RMT food chain winds up getting caught up in the crossfire due to the gil itself probably having been tagged for RMT activity and has to be removed. So characters with large ammounts of RMT tagged gil end up under "Suspicious activity" are investigated found innocent and have any gil tagged as RMT cash removed from their persons as sad as it may be.

Is it the perfect solution? No, but I imagine it's how they roll to remove the most gil from the game with the least ammount of inconvience to the players. (A handfull of gil mongers being caught in the crossfire) instead of the entire economy tumbling out of control.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

What stops the gil buyer from buying the cheaper item? You are the one who is greedy for wanting hardworking crafters who make ilvl70 items for cheap prices.

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And you want them to stay at high prices, for what reason?

I dont craft. But it means philo stones convert into better gil amounts. Buying from the vendors would be easier and so would getting a house . Lower prices means gil buyers would just buy more items.

SE is punishing legit crafters for no reason. The items they make do not return to them . The gil buyers still get to wear the gear.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

What stops the gil buyer from buying the cheaper item? You are the one who is greedy for wanting hardworking crafters who make ilvl70 items for cheap prices.

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If Market Prices are cheaper, then there is less incentive/need to buy gil.

Back in my old FFXI days, I was actually tempted to buy some gil because I could not afford any of the upper tier items I needed/wanted. The AH was out of control with crafters/farmers making bank off of all the "gil buyers".

Thankfully I did not give in to the temptation and SE brought down the "Ban-Hammer" and confiscated billions of gil which led to the AH prices becoming more reasonable again.

The same thing will happen here and is happening already.

Oh, and just so you all know I am not a cold hearted bastard...I do think that SE should return the "tainted gil" items to the players who sold them...just lower the price next time you sell it. ;>)

Thanks for all the responses. I really wanna farm dungeons to get more Potash/Coke to sell and other philo items but it just seems like it's asking to be banned. Personally I feel like those are expensive items for the reason that lots of people don't feel like farming for them and that they should cost more. Kinda just wanna secure enough gil to get my house when those come out though so I dunno, market place stuff just seems dangerous from all the things I've been hearing.

Houses are going to be FC only at first, so you won't be paying for it alone. Ideally.