IFRIT HM

I just dont know where to begin.....
First the wait ... from 1hr to longer based on the time of day. Am a bard [dps] so i know am screwed.
Then the groups you get. Tanks dying to fast, tanks not interupting, dps dying because of not knowing the fight etc... but thats part of the whole idea of doing HM is to become better at it.

THE DROP RATE. I have run that blasted HM instance more than enough times to at least see my blasted bow at least drop. But in all the runs i've done i have yet to even see it. I have seen cnj/whm staff drop when one wasn't even in the group... or blm staff or monk weapon.. or the paladin sword when we had 2 warrior tanking Ifrit.

At this point am just about ready to say 'F' this game and move on. Because i cant do anything else really since from Ifrit HM on its a constant gear check.
I mean WTH.... so i have to run this instance 60/70 times to see my weapon drop.

What else can you do right. But my patients is wearing thin...

GC weapon is fine for ifrit, garuda and titan.

Ifrit isn't a gear check. Your dps need good weapons (darklight, GC weapons) and having a mage to LB the nails is nice but not necessary.

If you should end up in a group without a blm or smn, set a dragoon or monk to lb a specific nail, let everyone know which nail that is, and then have everyone else start on a different nail, move to a third nail, and lb will be ready again for fourth nail.

"We'll call the tail nail 12. Polly Arm, LB 12, everyone else go to 3, and then 6, and then LB 9 as soon as you're on it"

It also helps to have the off-tank switch targets too, every bit of dps matters during nail phase if you don't have mage LB.

We did Ifrit HM 5 times tonite 3 drops were summoner books, we didnt have a summoner in the group hehe.

Ifrit HM is the first primal you do when you hit 50, all you need is people who know how to play their role and also for those people to be honest and tell everyone that they don't know something.

You don't need gear check for Ifrit HM.

You don't need GC weapons for Ifrit HM, any fresh 50 can beat this fight... Ifrit is incredibly easy, even with 1 tank and no blm/smn, the strategy just changes.

With a PLD tank, you really don't need an offtank for stuns, I've held aggro the entire fight and interrupted every Eruption, just learn his rotation and anticipate them so you don't get caught by your GCD.

With a BLM/SMN, it's super easy because you can use lb3 on the nails, without one, just use lb3 to immidiately kill one, then have dps focus 2, 3, and 4, and have dps use LB2 on the last one.

You by no means need the ifrit bow...

Try finding a healer of a tank friend to queue with. It makes the wait time a LOT more bearable.

Just buy a crafted weapon from the market, it's better than Ifrit weapon.

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Originally Posted by darkm0d

GC weapon is fine for ifrit, garuda and titan.

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And as soon as i do the next Ifrit HM the bow drops.

I wasnt saying you need a gear check for Ifrit HM ...... my guildies told me to come to Amdapor keep and we couldnt get pass the wall no matter how hard i tried. My dps couldnt do it. I was saying everything after Ifrit HM is a gear check.

but thank you all for your replys. I still think the queue needs work and the drops shoul mirror the classes in the instance. Have it so instead of rolling on the item all classes roll on there weapon.. who wins the roll thats the weapon that is placed in the chest.

Just a thought.

First calm down I know its tough....I ran Ifrit from 6am to 8 pm straight 2 mondays ago...made me sick to
my stomach...I must of ran it with oh so many groups and tons of runs...at around 8pm a bow drops for me...
then we run it again and a bow drops for my buddy back to back.....hang in there dont give up...i even got
ifrits horn in this farm run....keep trying GLLLLLL

Pick JP only in DF, usually they're quite good (also because their may have less lag than us).
And for drop rate...well it's been discussed 1000 times, GC / craft ilv 70 weapon is your alternative.
And if you want to collect the weapon, you can always do it occasionally in the future, it's not like this BOSS fight will be removed or something.

thank you for all the responses... appreciate the feed back.

Pretty much. It's luck of the draw.
I had to do Ifrit nearly 65-70 times before I even saw my Harpoon drop.
Don't think you're being singled out or something.

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Originally Posted by Grunwald

What else can you do right. But my patients is wearing thin...

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Tell them to eat something. Squash is really good this time of year.

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Originally Posted by Kaesara

We did Ifrit HM 5 times tonite 3 drops were summoner books, we didnt have a summoner in the group hehe.

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Happened to me about 5 times, and the same item (book), when no one needed it. Not sure how this works out lol.

I was lucky with ifrit HM. The group I ran hydra with decided to continue on to ifrit together. I had not prepared for the fight but lucky for me one of the mages had already done it so I shadowed him and it went well. :)

Honestly, they should fix the drop rate for the 2 books and MNK fist. If anything 9/10 it will be one of those 3 weapons wenever i go into ifrit LOL.

Honestly, I find ifrit to be broken more than anything else. It is that easy if you have pld stunning and blm limit break.

I suggest you make friends with people on your server. I use DF to get some exp on runs and see mechanics. Reenforce with some research. Then I start building groups myself. I made a linkshell that I invite good raiders. Now that I'm getting know for running runs and building a pool of good raiders, runs get easier and easier.

I've done 50+ runs and have the whm, blm and mnk weapons from greed rolls, but I have yet to see my sword drop. When it does, I probably won't win lol.

I suggest you try to find a PLD buddy and queue with him. If you get a 2 WAR combination, it's almost guaranteed not happening. Also, before anyone gets mad at me for saying that, having people you don't know do a stun rotation is almost impossible. Either the WAR main tank has to stun as well, which is just honestly too much to deal with due to the slow wind up speed. And then I hate to bash on DRG's or other classes but having DPS do stun rotations... lordy.

I think most PLD's need to know that they are there to literally sit and stare at Ifrit's cast window and stun. Their DPS is negligible and not needed.

Good luck with your Ifrit. I like to hop into Ifrit DF to help sometimes. Took me 14 times to get my WAR axe and only once to get my PLD sword. :p It can suck sometimes.

Nothing but tomes like everytime. When it does drop, I lose it to another player.

okay, another one of these "primal weapon drop rate sucks" threads

WHM so can't comment on queues, but oh God this:

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Originally Posted by Kaesara

We did Ifrit HM 5 times tonite 3 drops were summoner books, we didnt have a summoner in the group hehe.

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I've seen 5 SMN books, including 3 in a row. I've seen the cane once and lost the roll. I'm yet to see a spear or a sword. I know random is random, but it's really annoying.

Also, was in a group where the WAR main tank went down and ragequit. I could just see how this was going to play out now. Sure enough, the PLD solo tanked and stunned Ifrit like a boss, and we won. No prizes for guessing what weapon dropped...

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Originally Posted by Tercino

Also, was in a group where the WAR main tank went down and ragequit. I could just see how this was going to play out now. Sure enough, the PLD solo tanked and stunned Ifrit like a boss, and we won. No prizes for guessing what weapon dropped...

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A MNK weapon?

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Originally Posted by texhnolyze

okay, another one of these "primal weapon drop rate sucks" threads

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so you posted in it just to say 'another one of these threads. Dont remember anyone twisting your arm to post in it.

On the whole rage quit crap.... just got a hydra group... healer was new as was I, he got caught in the aoe when they hydra charged him .... you guess it 3/4 of them rage quit the group.. lol

This game is full of jerk off's.... then again what game isnt.

The funny thing is i got my ifrit claws on my first ifrit hm run lol but the bow oh god the bow never drops
Lol

Got whm weapon first run currently at run 26 with no bow.