Lack of variety

Bit concerned at the lack of variety in this game. Regardless of whether or not this is vanilla, it's a relaunch and needed more variety to start.

End game-has Prae speed runs, CM and AK sloshing. Zero variety here in how you dungeon run for your tomes each week. Titan HM is the single mob bottleneck to Coil raiding, which requires a specific group make up for most groups and leaves out the extra tank many times. This can create issues with many LS or FC.

Other games incorporate token farming via random dungeon finder and turning all dungeons into end game expert modes, which adds more variety. Sure they also get old after a while, but last much longer than AK the single Myth dungeon farm.

Gear- There's zilch in variety here.

Market-Ho Hum. The crafting/gathering has/had potential, but it has near zero impact on the game and isn't really needed or worthwhile right now.

The game has "potential", but with so many offerings out there in the F2p area, it's tough to justify a payment per month without lots of variety and challenge that is more than how much can you handle farming one dungeon or dying to server lag on Titan HM.

Hoping that 2.1 adds much needed variety to the game that allows the 3 month content patch cycle to last.

Brace yourself...
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This is the first mmo I've started playing at launch. I am happy with the content. Other mmos I joined a year or so after they launched and there was so much content I didnt even know where to begin. That is exactly how this game will be in time. In a year there will be so much to do and so much new content. Of course though the people who complete all new content withing two weeks of release are going to be disappointed but thats their choice of gameplay so they will have to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Svennyblaze

Of course though the people who complete all new content withing two weeks of release are going to be disappointed but thats their choice of gameplay so they will have to deal with it.

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no we should not have to deal with it... it can easily be solved by adding non-casual content along side casual content.

1-2 hardcore elements will keep everyone happy. It is a failure of the mmo if the no-lifers get bored before more content is added.

It is on the devs to prevent people from getting bored. Saying people need to play less is not an option.

You knew what content was out and when new content is coming out. If you rushed to end game and only do those things then yes it is your fault. New content will be out every 3ish months. Here is a solution for you sub for only one month at a time only when the new content comes out. When you've completed that in 2 weeks your subscription will be over then you wont have to sit here for 2 months and complain about lack of things to do and you wont be spending your money.

inc white knights

1.0 players "rushed" to end game? SE knew that many were either 1.0 players already AT end game, and they also knew that there would be many there at a month. They used a Titan HM choke point, bugged Turn 5 and 1 AK dungeon to farm myth tomes as a way to slow this process down. All I am saying is there needs to be more variety period because they are competing against other games period. This is a "relaunch" btw not a full on brand new MMO launch. They had old 1.0 players already at 50 to cater to as well. They didn't do that part as much as they did other things well.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

no we should not have to deal with it... it can easily be solved by adding non-casual content along side casual content.

1-2 hardcore elements will keep everyone happy. It is a failure of the mmo if the no-lifers get bored before more content is added.

It is on the devs to prevent people from getting bored. Saying people need to play less is not an option.

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No, it's a failure on the players who rush through content as fast as possible for the sole purpose of demanding more.

It is *fact* that players will consume content faster than it can be developed. The onus is on us, the players, to consume that content at a reasonable pace. Those who consume it too fast have no right to demand more.

'Content' is a broad spectrum covering the entire game. The max level raids are not the only thing to do in this game.

Current EGC @ Launch:
CM - 100 Phil
AK - 50 Phil, 40 Myth (8 runs to hit 300 cap, lose 20 on last run)
WP - ?? Phil
Praetorium - 100 Phil
IHM - 10 Phil, 4 Myth (75 runs to hit 300)
GHM - ?? Phil, ?? Myth
THM - ?? Phil, ?? Myth
BC - ?? Phil, ?? Myth

2.1 introduces in November:
Crystal Tower (8-man dungeon, then 24-mn Raid)
2x Primal Extreme Mode
2x Hard Mode dungeons
Good King Moogle Mog XII (ARR debut, 1.0 Return)
PVP (1v1, 4v4, 8v8, L30, L40, L50)
MVP
Rank 4 Vet Reward (180 day)
Housing
Treasure Hunting

Coming in November (Not 2.1):
Lightning Returns XIII FATE (11.14.13)

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Originally Posted by Johnist

Current EGC @ Launch:
CM - 100 Phil
AK - 50 Phil, 40 Myth (8 runs to hit 300 cap, lose 20 on last run)
WP - ?? Phil
Praetorium - 100 Phil
IHM - 10 Phil, 4 Myth (75 runs to hit 300)
GHM - ?? Phil, ?? Myth
THM - ?? Phil, ?? Myth
BC - ?? Phil, ?? Myth

2.1 introduces in November:
Crystal Tower (8-man dungeon, then 24-mn Raid)
2x Primal Extreme Mode
2x Hard Mode dungeons
Good King Moogle Mog XII (ARR debut, 1.0 Return)
PVP (1v1, 4v4, 8v8, L30, L40, L50)
MVP
Rank 4 Vet Reward (180 day)
Housing
Treasure Hunting

Coming in November (Not 2.1):
Lightning Returns XIII FATE (11.14.13)

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And people will still say there's lack of variety.