What will happen to players that were hacked regarding black listing?
As you know, everyone black lists the spammers.. but these spammers are using real characters played by legitimate players...
I was hacked, I purchased security token and restored my account.. but now my 50 is most likely on everyone's black list.
what will be done about this? i have contacted Square but will they actually give a damn? or will I be forced to reroll -_-?
Hackers and Black Lists
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10-04-2013, 02:03 PMRekujenHackers and Black Lists
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10-04-2013, 02:08 PMVagrant-0
I imagine that most have already, or will soon start cycling names through their blacklists as it fills up. If the current rate of about 14 names a day is same for most, it'll probably be a week or two before the majority of those with it have moved your name off.
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10-04-2013, 05:05 PMRekujen
just heard from GM.. they won't clear you from black lists if you were hacked, he even recommended i server transfer when it becomes available -_- which is dumb because all my friends are on behemoth.
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10-04-2013, 05:29 PMThundaja
What is your character name and I can remove you from mine if you are on it. (Behemoth here as well)
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10-04-2013, 05:30 PMRyuniErm, people's name are said next to their portrait you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by Thundaja
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10-04-2013, 05:31 PMWelsper59That's kind of the circumstance of an unfortunate situation. What if there were people who blisted you for it being you, not the RMT? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen
It's not their responsibility that someone hacked your account. It's like being robbed, and demanding that either the police, or the people who made the stolen goods, give you a replacement. Or I guess in this case, more like identity theft and demanding that credit companies overlook your damaged credit score because of it. Unfortunate things happen when stuff goes wrong. -
10-04-2013, 05:31 PMThundaja
Not always. It depends on what they have selected on their settings page.
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10-04-2013, 05:31 PMRekujen
Thanks but there's no point if half the server has me on ignore... my only option is to reroll.. and I have a relic 50 -_-
you'd think Square would be more supportive over stuff like this. -
10-04-2013, 05:33 PMLissylBut not everyone only has a single character on a single server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuni
A thread of people who got their accounts back could be a good thing, since many of us are loathe to remove the names while there's a very high chance of just having to turn back around and blist it again. -
10-04-2013, 05:35 PMRyuniSadly every other level 50 person have at least one relic weapon nowadays. There's no point in rerolling when free server migration is just around the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen
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10-04-2013, 05:37 PMNeri
Probably shout once a day like "Hi guys, I got my account back from hackers, please cancel my blacklist and I will be your pal for life..." or something like that?
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10-04-2013, 05:37 PMThundaja
Well give it time. I can spread the word to have people not blacklist you anymore.
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10-04-2013, 05:40 PMRekujenI can't just abandon my FC and friends lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryuni
My only option is to reroll.... or hope that Square can do something, but GM already told me they can't so yea -
10-04-2013, 05:42 PMThundajaI can spread the word to have people not blacklist you anymore and it is very easy to do. I will hit up the major cities, North Than, Mor Dhona, and Coerthas. Lets get you removed from the blacklists!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen
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10-04-2013, 05:43 PMSotekAny particular reason your FC and friends still have you blisted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen
Getting them to unblist you shouldn't be too difficult, and from their it is only a matter of time until others on the server do so; either by partying with you and realizing, or by clearing their blist after filling it... Doesn't really seem like something to reroll over... -
10-04-2013, 05:54 PMRekujenThat's ok you don't have to do that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thundaja
FC and Friends don't have me blisted, but people are suggesting I transfer. Which I can't because of said friends and fc. -
10-04-2013, 06:53 PMCahlum
You could just not buy gil then you wouldn't get hacked?
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10-04-2013, 07:53 PMRyuniSorry, when you said rerolling I thought you meant on a new server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen
But with free transfers, maybe you can convince your friends and FC to go with you? :) -
10-04-2013, 08:17 PMTheRac25they probably cant and id bet money (real money alot of it) that they dont have a tool that can do itQuote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen
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10-04-2013, 08:55 PMRekujenReally dude? you're gonna throw that accusation at me after what's happened... you realize I've lost a 50 relic dark light bard -_- which was huge for me considering I'm casual and don't have that much time to play... I've been playing mmo's since ultima and ragnarok, buying gil is the last thing I would do.. besides, I only had 120k on my character :\ after I restored my account none of my items or gil was touched, maybe he felt sorry for my broke ass lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cahlum
I was hacked, password most likely taken from a different company breach (read the Lodestone) even though I made sure it was unique and different to anything I've used... but it goes to show that nobody is safe and I highly recommend you buy an one-time password token.
I was like most people, computer savvy... very secure PC and very confident that this type of nonsense would never happen to me... but the simple truth is, it can happen to anyone, no matter how amazing you think you are. -
10-04-2013, 10:40 PMAvrid
op sorry you were hacked, since you said you play causally and got relic done in under a month of offical release it shouldn't be too hard for you to reroll and do it all over again
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10-04-2013, 11:39 PMRivienne
In my opinion, everyone should clear their blist on a weekly basis honestly, except for real people you blisted for other reasons.
I do and I have never had a repeat spammer.
They are always gone within a few days, heck sometimes they are gone within minutes of me blisting. The other day in U'ldah on Fairie I walked out of the inn room to a wall of spam and could see the bobble head. I blisted, and before I even exited the walking sands they had disappeared. So this fear of clearing the blist is unfounded in my experience. And is pretty bad for the people who got their account hacked and now they are shut out of the world. I understand pushing people to get a security or software token, but ostracizing someone for a mistake, especially after they have recovered, got the account back, and added a token, is bit over the top.
Plus what is the worst that could happen? You clear the blist and have to add 1 or 2 back on immediately. Better than having to worry about filling up your list with characters that aren't even spamming anymore, and maybe who are real people who now have the account back and just want to get on with playing the game.
So yeah. Be considerate of others, and make your own life simpler. Blist instantly, then clear everyone on Monday. Fewer problems, and everyone is better/happier for it. Just my opinion! :)
So yeah to the OP, chances are if you are in my blist now, you won't be next week. Not that I am close to 50 on Behemoth, but hopefully others will give you the same chance.
Just let your FC and friends know to spread the word if they will, and maybe you can get yourself off a lot of players lists anyway. Also, if you do re-roll, don't let it get your down. Think of it as a chance to try a different role, race, etc. Have fun and make the most of the chance, then maybe later you can come back and play your current character again. :) -
10-06-2013, 02:27 AMEvilized6666
This is going to come off rude but ...
You have to be a idiot or someone buyong gold or other services. So the hacker also using your account to spam did me a favor by letting .e know to blacklist you as you are not smart or a cheater. -
10-06-2013, 02:28 AMAltheras
Well if you try to send anyone a tell and find that they have you blacklisted, get a LS or FC friend to send that person a tell in your stead and explain to them that you were hacked and most likely blisted due to being used by the RMT for spamming. Most reasonable people would go ahead and remove you right then.
Also, make a post on your server's forum to alert people on your realm about what happened to you and why you may be on their blists. ^^ -
10-06-2013, 03:15 AMRakhar
Rerolling a level 50 over this seems waaaaay overkill. If that was your first reaction, rather than spend a bit of time and effort to clear your name, then I fear no rational arguments to dissuade you will bear any fruit. You are either highly irrational or not innocent in the matter of the mass blacklisting of your name. If it's the first, there's no sense discussing the matter. If it's the second, there's no sense discussing the matter.
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10-06-2013, 08:01 AMPathios
After a bit I'll take names off my blist. It's annoying, but I might find some nice people by spending some time clearing that list every now and then.
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10-06-2013, 08:08 AMDyrstahlKinda offtopic I guess but I sure don't. That has to be one of the biggest waste of time in mmorpg -- nay, life. It takes like 10-20 seconds yeah? There's loads of them and they will ALWAYS be there, they will just keep coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekujen