Help translating my character name to Roegadyn

I'd like to figure out the translation for Wandering Adventurer to Roegadyn. So far the only word I've found is Wandering, which is Eyri, but I can't comprehend how to form Adventurer from what is given me in the naming conventions thread.

Any help please?

Sorry, going to have to break this up into two posts.

So, Roegadyn names! I love 'em.

Well, as I see it, you have two options: 1. create a metaphorical compound word out of what we have now, or 2. make up a new word based on Germanic roots (we kind of have permission to do that according to the naming conventions).

For option 1, here's a small list to get you started on potential compounds:

Aerg - ambitious (a)
Agynn - beginning (n)
Ahrm - arm (n)
Bhald - bold/brave (a)
Dyn - people (n)
Firk - explore (v)
Gyft - sell (v)
Hort - treasure (n)
Hyr - army (n)
Itar - knight (n)
Jaeg - hunt (v)
Kympf - champion (an)
Laent - land (n)
Mann - man (n)
Moeg - able (a)
Swerd - sword (n)
Syhr - fearless (a)
Troeg - monster (n)

Maybe something like Hortjaega (treasure hunter), Dynitar (people's knight), Gyftswerd (sellsword--the first adventurers were former mercenaries), or something even more metaphorical if you want to go digging through the dictionary.

For option 2, here is an Old High German dictionary, which is supposed to be what the Roegadyn language was based on (you'll want to look at pages 148+)...sorry, this was the best I could find. :/

Or you could use modern German, where the word for "adventure" is Abenteuer (ah-ben-toy-ah, more or less). Not sure how to best modify that to make it sound Roegadyn, though.

The biggest issue is keeping the name short enough to fit the limits. It can be hard with Roegadyn names! I know from experience...If you're just going with two words, though, you'll be fine.

Hope that helps!

"Adventurer" is tough because the term (aventiure) was borrowed directly from French in Middle High German.

Bloody hell, that's a lot to work with. Seeing the Adventurers' Guild was established by a mercenary officer to bring his companions together to aid the realm of Eorzea, essentially being sellswords, I can definitely see something gong in that direction.

Would anyone have an translation for 'mercenary' into Roegadyn?



I have to admit I like the Middle High German word abenteuer taken from aventiure. While it isn't Old High German, I have no qualms trying to modify this into Roegadyn for my purposes. I'm no loremonger and definitely not learned in linguistics, but I see it as an evolution of the language from Old High to Middle High, and can't find argument to believe in a fantasy setting that it could easily translate into Roegadyn for this purpose. I'd think if this weren't desirable the Dev team would have provided a more complete Roegadyn dictionary, but this would be beyond the scope of this game, and therefore I can't see any reasons to reject taking this direction. A lot of words to make me sound smart, though I'm not, so...

For instance, concerning the Roegadyn Dictionary provided, it is said, 'The term “known” is used here because many Roegadyn words have been forgotten after generations of disuse, with only popular terms being passed down through names. Every so often, however, a new (or should I say old) word is rediscovered in an ancient tome and added to the list for further generations to use (or ignore).' (source)

I'll look into modifying abenteuer into Roegadyn. Any halp would be appreciated, since this isn't my forte, but I'll definitely be looking into this.

Thanks all.

Old High German is closely related to Old English from what I've gathered. Again, I'm not into linguistics.

Adventure in Middle English can be translated as anter. This seems close to what a Roegadyn word would sound like I think. Could this somehow be made more Old English sounding? Am I even going in the right direction here?

Bah, where to go from here?

How about something like Abhentyra? Looks pretty Roegadyn. You could say it was originally an Elezen word that the Roegadyn borrowed at one point, since the Elezen language was inspired by French.

Say one particular Roegadyn sailor traveled to Eorzea many centuries ago and learned to speak with the Elezen he met there. He liked the sound of that word, though he couldn't pronounce it the way they did. He wrote it down in his journal, which was lost after his death, but it has been rediscovered recently and the word along with it.

Or something.

Thank you for your help. Using your above example, and what I've found from the Old High German dictionary you linked for me, I'be come to the personal conclusion that something like Eyriabhentyr best suits my Roegadyn name. The final entry on the OHG dictionary entry here for adventure is æfin-týr, which closely resembles your above example of abhentyra.

I dropped the -a from your example as I noticed many Roegadyn words that followed the tyr pattern ended at -tyr. The question I would have would be in regards to the entry I found in the OHG dictionary was for adventure and not adventurer, so would ending abhentyra be a better option? You obviously know these language matters far better than I ever will, so... I just thing dropping the -a makes it even more old language looking and sounding.

Firstly, could you provide me your opinions on my choice for a Roegadyn translation for Wandering Adventurer? Also, could you provide me guidance on pronouncing Eyriabhentyr?

Sounds good!

The reason I added -a to the end, though, was because of this part of Roegadyn dictionary post:

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Verb -> Noun(er)

Verb+a
Braen (Break) + a = Braena (Breaker)

Ex: Aisbraena (Ice Breaker)

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But I can understand you not wanting to use it if you dislike how it sounds.

Out of curiosity, why is it all one word? Is it going to be only one of your two names?

As for pronunciation...well, as a person with a background in linguistics, particularly German, I have some very different opinions on how things should be pronounced than what's written in the naming conventions guide. :p

But I'll get over it because it's not German, it's just inspired by German. And maybe the Roegadyn themselves are mispronouncing the words, since their language is dead. So we'll go with the official pronunciation.

So according to the guide, the h in this case is silent and the y is a long ee sound. So Eyri would be "ay-ree" and Abhentyr would be "ah-ben-teer."

Grrr, post length restrictions.

Thanks for the pronunciation guide.

Also, thanks for explaining your reasoning behind adding the -a, which only makes sense. I prefer it without the -a, however, I also want to stick as close to 'old language' as I can. While adventurer, or abhentyra, isn't in the list of known words, and all this is really just a shot in the dark, using the -a only keeps to the lore.

With that said, how would you pronounce it with the -a? "-ah"?

And I combined them because that's how the names are formed, are they not? From the naming conventions post:

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Sea Wolf names are actually all formed from two words taken from the ancient Roegadyn language that the race's ancestors spoke before they came to Eorzea. For example, Ahldskyf is a combination of Ahld (meaning 'old') and Skyf (meaning ‘ship’). Rostnsthal is a combination of Rostn (rusty) and Sthal (steel). Pronunciation of the names can be a bit easier after splitting the name into its two parts: Ahld + skyf (read "ald-skeeff").

- Greintoum (grein + toum = bronze dream)
- Mytemyrgan (myte + myrgan = middle morning)
- Ahtmhas (aht + mhas = eight scars)

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Eyriabhentyra (eyri + abhentyra = wandering adventurer)

I am asking all this because I will be remaking my character using the Fantasia from my veteran rewards to change my appearance to a Sea Wolf Roegadyn. While the Sea Wolves use their old language names, it is not uncommon for them to also use a modern Eorzean name since the old language is difficult to pronounce. From a roleplaying standpoint, my real name will be Eyriabhentyra, but will be known as Wandering Adventurer to those unable to pronounce or remember my real name.

As far as name conventions in-game, I will remain Wandering Adventurer so I don't have to reroll for the dozenth time. In my search options I will list my name as Eyriabhentyra.

I hope I did all this right! I really do appreciate your help. It has been a godssend.

Gotcha. I just asked because name length restrictions (20 characters total) can be really bad when making a Roegadyn. So if you want a lore-appropriate surname it's going to have to be only 7-8 characters long, which really limits your choices.

As to pronunciation: yes, I'd pronounce the -a as "ah."

I have to mention though...the Fantasia unfortunately doesn't let you rename your character. The only way I know of to rename (which I'm not 100% about yet) is to make an alt on another server with your current name, then transfer your main character so you're forced to rename them.

If that's not something you want to do, then maybe you could make a Hellsguard and keep your name? It fits their conventions. Or make a more neutral-colored Sea Wolf and say you're half Hellsguard. Or adopted by Hellsguard. Or just chose to translate your name like they do. Plenty of options, at least.

You misunderstand. I want to remain named Wandering Adventurer and will use my Fantasia to change to a Sea Wolf. According to the naming conventions for Roegadyn, it is not uncommon for a Sea Wolf to use a modern Eorzean name and a Hellsguard to stick with one that uses the old language. I will be one of the Sea Wolves who use a modern Eorzean name so those I meet don't struggle to call me by Eyriabhentyra, while those who know me by my real name can call me Eyriabhentyra if they choose. It's as if my name was William but went by Bill.

I will create a Sea Wolf alt to reserve my old languages name, but will play on Wandering Adventurer as a Sea Wolf with a modern Eorzean name. And because of the character limits for names in-game, I will simply split Eyri and Abhentyra. I don't have intentions of playing the character though.

I missed the part about Sea Wolves last names being their father's name + syn, so I named myself Eyriabhentyra Merlsyn, which translates as "Wandering Adventurer, son of the Sea". It may not follow lore completely, but it satisfies me, and is a matter insignificant for the people I hope to roleplay with.

Thanks again Junah, you have been a major help in choosing my Roegadyn name.

No problem!

And I think there are plenty of reasons why a Roegadyn might choose to abandon their birth surname and create a new one that doesn't quite fit the lore (never knowing their father, having a falling out with their family, etc)--but I'm not going to annoy you anymore with unasked for RPing advice. :p

/farewell

can any translate Mercury in Roegadyn Language please

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Originally Posted by hwilly2o

can any translate Mercury in Roegadyn Language please

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Try using "Quicksilver" as the equivalent, and look up the Roe dictionary and the advice above to come up with a nice-sounding name.
For one, "silver" is Sylb, classified as adjective/noun; you could combine that with Hirsk, "agile", or even better, Holsk, "fast".

(Am I doing this right, Junah? I'm a bit rusty when it comes to my Roegadyn...)

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Originally Posted by hwilly2o

can any translate Mercury in Roegadyn Language please

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Originally Posted by Geist

Try using "Quicksilver" as the equivalent

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If the element, not the god, is your goal, Geist is on the right track. "Quicksilver" actually appears in Old High German as quecsilbar. Since the team slightly shifted "silbar" to "sylb," and doesn't have another word for quick yet (that we've seen), you can also slightly change quec, if you want. Roegadyn conventions rarely use "ue" when they can go with "oe" (pronounced oo), or w (pronounced like a v), if I'm interpreting the list correctly. And there's not a single Q on that list, so far, either. Kwyksylb, maybe? It's fun to say.